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IS 16x9 Enhancement important to you!?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:40 pm
by That1GuyPictures
Here's a thought...
How many of you prefer 16x9 as your DVD preference?
I know I do...
but I just wondered how many of you actually care about it.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:42 pm
by Disneykid
I definitely care being that I have a widescreen TV in my living room and plan on getting one for my bedroom soon. Will I avoid a DVD if it's non-anamorphic? So far I haven't run into that problem, yet, but I'd say that as long as it's in its OAR, I'll still buy it, anamorphic or not.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:47 pm
by Udvarnoky
I cared about anamorphically-enhanced transfers before I got a widescreen TV. I would buy a non-anamorphic widescreen disc if it were the only correct aspect ratio edition available.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:48 pm
by Escapay
Well, if I had a widescreen TV, I'd be able to care, but since I still have a 4:3 TV, I can't really care yet. So long as it's OAR...
Escapay
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:53 pm
by Jack
Since I got my widescreen TV in September, I now pay more attention to wether or not a DVD is animorphically enhanced. I've noticed several titles in my collection aren't, some of them being my favorite films, so that's dissapointing. I can always zoom in when its not enhanced, but most of the time it looks kinda crappy.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:03 pm
by Luke
Yes, I care. But I'll still buy non-anamorphic DVDs of favorite movies that aren't available 16x9.
Hmm
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:21 pm
by Disney Guru
Yes I care a lot , but it isn't that big of a deal to me.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:06 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
oh yeah! very important! better picture!
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:13 pm
by deathie mouse
yes it's important, the more resolution the better. More detail, more sharpness, less scanning lines and jaggies, less video noise and mpeg "grain". More size. More movie experience. Ahh and on interlaced TV's, less interlacing artifacting visibility.
Why settle for 9 donnuts when you can have 12? The "box" certainly can hold them
(And here comes deathi with his pal stichk again

): Also the reason I try to get PAL versions.
Specially for extreme widescreen format movies, since the pal increased resolution is roughly equivalent to the 16:9 coding per se, so if the PAL also has 16:9 coding too, double whammy. Double the pleasure double the Fun.
If people like the just 33% increase in image quality you get with 16:9 coding, I still don't understand why some say they don't care for the up to 650% increase in Blue-DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:32 pm
by MickeyMousePal
I would have to say it has to be 16x9 enhanced or I will not buy it but at first I collected fullscreen but then I started to buy widescreen, which is way better.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:01 am
by Wonderlicious
I don't care. I only have a 4:3 TV and most DVDs which are 16:9 enhanced can be formated to letterbox, so I can't care less.
By the way, do non-anamorphic transfers go all stretchy if you play them on a Widescreen TV or do they look like a little screen floating on a pile of blackness?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:04 am
by That1GuyPictures
Wonderlicious wrote:I don't care. I only have a 4:3 TV and most DVDs which are 16:9 enhanced can be formated to letterbox, so I can't care less.
By the way, do non-anamorphic transfers go all stretchy if you play them on a Widescreen TV or do they look like a little screen floating on a pile of blackness?
Most 16x9 TV's carry the option of placing the image in the center...
(So yes, 4 black bars, 1 on each side) and then also carry the option to blow up the picture and trim off the top and bottom to an aspect ratio of 1.78:1. However, the picture looses a whole lot of resolution, and in general, usually looks pretty bad.
Otherwise you could leave it stretched out, (Which in my view is the worst way to watch a movie. Picture distortion....(shudder)
I love widescreen Images though. That's probably why I even care.
I just love 16x9 monitors. And I love to shoot the short films I make in 16x9 format.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:29 pm
by ThiagoPE
For me its is important (Even because my tv have a function to simulate progressive video with widescreen enhaced movies)... So I really hate letterboxed movies...
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:39 pm
by That1GuyPictures
So...anyways...let's go back to the 16x9 topic
and continue the PAL discussion on another thread.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:42 pm
by 2099net
I've split the PAL discussion off from this thread.
Here 
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:43 pm
by That1GuyPictures
Thank you very much!!!

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:01 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Duh who wouldnt want 16x9. Is like saying is the Pope Catholic?<~~~netty hehe
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:21 pm
by Jungleprince_55
I don't have a widescreen T.V. yet but i still definately prefer enhanced widescreen DVDs because i will eventually get one someday and i do have a prtable DVD player with a widescreen and it's very annoying to watch non-enhanced titles on it because it doesn't have any mode on it to properly display the picture without having black bars on all sides,if you try to zoom the picture it will just zoom in on the center and will still have black bars on the sides.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:18 pm
by littlefuzzy
I don't have a WS TV yet, but I definitely prefer anamorphic titles to regular letterboxed titles. Of course, I refuse to buy ANY Pan & Scan titles, and it would have to be a HUUUGE favorite to buy in Open Matte, unless it was very likely that it wouldn't be brought to DVD in any other version.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:45 pm
by deathie mouse
Wonderlicious, on 16:9 Displays, 4:3 coded material sits in the middle of the screen (kind of a square inside a rectangle, with the image filling the screen height but black bars at the sides) (called "Pillarboxing" by some)
Unless the DVD is a 4:3 coded letterboxed of a widscreen movie: Then you see a small rectangle inside the bigger rectangle, in other words: surrounded by black bars in all sides, top and bottom. You use a zoom function to fill the screen up again. Theres also a stretch to the siddes function if you like for Academy ratio movies...
all 16:9 coded dvds can be formatted to be seen letterboxed on 4:3 displays. it's just a downconversion: 4 vertical pixels become 3 vertical pixels.
(if you want to see the whole 4 pixels included on your 16:9 coded widescreen dvds on a 4:3 display, just tell your DVD player you have a 16:9 or widescreen display on set up. You'll see the bigger more detailed image. (Of course it will look streched vertically on the 4:3 display) But as the image is bigger, more detailed you'd see how a 16:9 display could be bigger better faster, we will rebuild him, the 16:9 million dollar man.
4:3 coded widescreen movies on DVD don't have this advantage so that's why they need to be zoomed up
Of course this being blowing up the image, makes it look fuzzier, hence all this 16:9 coded advantage and PAL and HD and 35mm lines discusssions.
Otherwise you need to use interpolation
So my rule for Disney acording to enhanced resolution:
For widescreens movies:
16:9 PAL best
16:9 NTSC next best
non 16:9 PAL next
non 16:9 NTSC last
bonus feature or Luke reviews might alter this
I must mention too, that there
might be 16:9 coded discs, that all they really are is just upconversions from 4:3 masters too. (justs as there might be "5.1" soundtracks that are just dolby surround 2 channel passed thru a Dolby Pro Logic decoder and the matrixed derived outputs recorded back into faux 5.1 discrete channels. Caveat emptor.
On their way back to this 16:9 topic the 16:9 parts of these 4:18 am and 7:17 am messages were ported and reposted.