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Surivivor: Battle of the Modern Musicals (Nominations)

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:32 pm
by Prince Eric
As a musical nut, I was thinking maybe we could play survivor with all the musicals released from 1980 onward. First, we have to decide among ourselves what is a "musical." Should we limit it to tradition musicals, which are musicals where the actors and characters break into song and dance, or should we include non-traditional musicals, which are films that usually involve songs that the characters sing as part of a performance piece or the film could rely heavily on backdrop songs to move the narrative. (Examples of such would be The School of Rock and Sister Act.) Also, do we want to include animated films as well? When you post your nominations, make sure to label the film as such - traditional, and non-traditional with animated films falling into either two categories.

I think we should aslo ask ourselves if the people playing the game want this to be objective. For instance, will people keep recent hits like Chicago just because that's the only musical they've seen in the past twenty years?

:)

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:14 pm
by AwallaceUNC
I think everyone should be eligible to play. I always view these games as a reflection of each member's experience with each of the films, including possibly not having seen them. Of course, if you haven't seen many musicals, you probably won't have a high enough level of interest to play a game involving a bunch of musicals you've never seen or heard of.

But yeah, Sister Act-ish movies should definitely be allowed! :D As for animated films... hmmm, I'd say yes, but then that adds a LOT of Disney movies to the mix, which might make it unfair. They are musicals, though, and surely live-action Disney fare will be allowed anyways. Tough call.

-Aaron

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:08 pm
by joplin4
I don't really consider Sister Act and School of Rock musicals. I don't think they should be allowed. But I do like Sister Act and films of that nature, so I won't be upset if they are included. Just my opinion.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:33 am
by Prince Eric
joplin4 wrote:I don't really consider Sister Act and School of Rock musicals. I don't think they should be allowed. But I do like Sister Act and films of that nature, so I won't be upset if they are included. Just my opinion.
They aren't Traditional musicals per se, but a lot of people have bened the rules of the genre because of the dirth of musicals since the 1980s.

I think they should, but if more people say no, then I'm fine with that too. We need more feedback, and if you guys could put you nominations, that'd be great, too. :D

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:25 am
by Mr. Toad
Sister Act - I think this is a musical, however School of Rock is plain and simple a comedy, dont really see how it would qualify.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:29 pm
by joplin4
JimmyJackJunior wrote:Sister Act - I think this is a musical, however School of Rock is plain and simple a comedy, dont really see how it would qualify.
I might agree with you there. I think I have the biggest problem with including "School of Rock" in the mix.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:34 pm
by snowbot
from musicals101.com:

musical (noun) – a stage, television or film production utilizing popular-style songs and dialogue to either tell a story (book musicals) and/or showcase the talents of varied performers (revues).

i think there will already be more than enough options with just 'traditional' musicals (book musicals), whether stage, film, or animated. it's arguable that sister act and school of rock don't utilize the songs to actually help tell the story. just the fact that they're singing songs is part of the story, but the song lyrics don't advance the plot. so those would be considered 'revues'. so, maybe include them, maybe not, but that's the main difference.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:10 pm
by snowbot
My nominations:

Traditional Live Action
Little Shop of Horrors 1986
Newsies 1992
Evita 1996
Moulin Rouge 2001
Chicago 2002

Traditional Animated
Beauty and the Beast 1991
The Lion King 1994
The Hunchback of Notre Dame 1996

Non-traditional
This Is Spinal Tap! 1984
O Brother, Where Art Thou? 2000
A Mighty Wind 2003

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:02 pm
by Prince Eric
snowbot wrote:My nominations:

Traditional Stage
Cats 1981
Little Shop of Horrors 1982
Sunday in the Park with George 1984
Les Miserables 1985
The Phantom of the Opera 1986
Into the Woods 1987
Sunset Boulevard 1994
Beauty and the Beast 1994
Rent 1996
The Lion King 1997
Aida 2000
Mamma Mia! 2001
Wicked 2003
Thanks, but this is for MOVIES only, at least at the moment. Also, isn't O Brother Where Art Thou? a traditional musical?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:05 pm
by Prince Eric
My Nominations:

Traditional Musicals:

Everyone Says I Love You (1996)
Mulan (1998)
Dancer In the Dark (2000)

Non-traditional Musicals

Bounce (2001)
Camp (2003)

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:16 pm
by snowbot
Okay, I wasn't sure, cause you didn't specify. So, I'll revise my post.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:30 pm
by joplin4
Since this is for modern musicals, I can't have 1960s and such. So, I nominate:

Disney's "Meredith Willson's The Music Man" (2003)

And for animated, I'd have to nominate:

Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" (1996)