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But even more exciting (or depressing) information that came out of the convention were the copies of the Star Wars Trilogy DVD Collection (due September 21st, as if you weren't aware) that were making their way around the convention to those in the know, with connections, or sticky fingers. So for those fearing (or hoping) that Lucas would again make extensive changes to the classic first three movies in the saga, you will get your wish. Everything from less readily apparent changes - sound effects to the color of a lightsaber - to more substantive additions, including Ian McDiarmid (the evil Emperor) replacing Clive Revill in The Empire Strikes Back, to Anakin Hayden Christensen's face (badly) added to the body of Sebastian Shaw at the end of Return of the Jedi, or a chorus of cheering Gungians (or whatever those Jar Jar things are called) also tacked on to the finale of Jedi, will be found in the new DVDs. Sigh...but find out for yourself when the set reaches a galaxy near you this fall.

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I can't believe George Lucas would sink this low! This really destroyed my day! I'm having second thoughts about buying the set now! I might just get some bootlegged from japan

MickeyMouseboy wrote: I can't believe George Lucas would sink this low! This really destroyed my day! I'm having second thoughts about buying the set now! I might just get some bootlegged from japan

Come on, MMB, changes to the films shouldn't be stopping you from buying the DVD set! These changes are already expected. But no matter how many times Lucas "remakes" his films, it shouldn't effect what we feel about Star Wars.

Actually, I think the changes are OK (except the Anakin and Jar Jar parts), but I wish they made another option in the DVDs to view the original theatrical versions of the films... oh, anyway...

I'm sorry, but I think Lucas has no integrity - artistic or personal. He alters his own work at the drop of a hat (just becasue he "can", he doesn't stop to think if he should or why he's doing it). He stated that there would be no Star Wars on DVD until 2006, and now it looks like the whole bloody lot will be out on DVD by the 2006. The way he's announcing Star Wars DVD titles willy-nilly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Holiday Special is on DVD by the end of 2006 to go with Episode III.

Plus, he's holding up Indiana Jones 4 because he doesn't like the script, even though everyone else connected with the film loves it. Shame he didn't have the same insight over his prequel scripts. I mean, he only had 20 years to write them to his liking and they're still afflicted with some of the worse dialogue in movie history. Then he has the gall to critisise a script from Frank Darabont, a screenwriter (and director come to that) with more talent in his little finger than Lucas has in his entire body.

Then there's the documentries on the prequel DVDs. Based on these, it appears everyone in the known universe either understands the Star Wars concept, or actually creates the Star Wars worlds better than the great bearded one himself.

Sorry. Rant over.

Well, this will come as no surprise to 2099net, but I cancelled this set a little while ago.

I just can't bring myself to watch these butchered "classics". Does Lucas see the irony of including vintage making ofs in the set (where he will presumably talk about the challenges of making the film he did when he did it), only to present films that he could not have possibly made in 1977, 1980 or 1983.

And where does it end, is the next question. Why not simply remake the entire films now with new actors. It would seem like the only logical choice. If he wants to include stuff he couldn't do back then, include different actors, new technology, and twenty-five years of hindsight.

Ian McDiarmid (the evil Emperor) replacing Clive Revill in The Empire Strikes Back, to Anakin Hayden Christensen's face (badly) added to the body of Sebastian Shaw at the end of Return of the Jedi

Of course, they aren't replacing Alec with Ewan at the end of Jedi, simply because that would be "wrong" and probably not a good tribute to Alec's memory. Bugger that Shaw fellow though.

Will Puppet Yoda be replaced by CGI Yoda?

Surely Obi-Wan would be pissed off. "How come he gets to spend all eternity as a hot young thing, and I have to be a old bloke with Tatooine sand in my underpants?"

Home Theatre Forum has a bunch of stills from the bootleg. Really disgusting.

I have no respect for Lucas left AT ALL. He tore up that card a long time ago. He is even altering THX-1138, which shows he doesn't even respect his own achievements. How can we be expected to?

Loomis wrote:Well, this will come as no surprise to 2099net, but I cancelled this set a little while ago.

To all those people who read the Bible (see the "Do you read the Bible?" thread) does one of the gospels include "And behold, Loomis shall cancelth everything he orderth. So it is written so it shall be."?

2099net wrote:

Loomis wrote:Well, this will come as no surprise to 2099net, but I cancelled this set a little while ago.

To all those people who read the Bible (see the "Do you read the Bible?" thread) does one of the gospels include "And behold, Loomis shall cancelth everything he orderth. So it is written so it shall be."?

Yes, and like the bible, I contradict myself a lot too.

"And Lo, as swiftly as the Loom had cancelled, the item was once again ordered on a whim. Temptation, as box setted as it was, overwhelmed him"

Loomis wrote:Yes, and like the bible, I contradict myself a lot too.

"And Lo, as swiftly as the Loom had cancelled, the item was once again ordered on a whim. Temptation, as box setted as it was, overwhelmed him"

"And lo, disneychris04 rolled on the floor, laughing, because thy Hilarious Loomis is so extremely funny."

Ridiculous. Of course I'm still going to buy it, but I'm so angry. You're absolutely right, he has no artistic integrity, and no longer deserves respect as a filmmaker for anything he's done in the last fifteen years.

What of the time when people could watch Star Wars and gawk at how impressive the original was for its time. What's impressive about standard, run of the mill technology for our day being used in our day? Nothing at all.

-Aaron

I'm still going to get the Star Wars Trilogy this doesn't get me mad but it does make me kind of sad!!!

George Lucas is sick!! Sometimes I'm so happy for not being a "Star Wars" fan, hehe! Even not being a fan I get pissed off hearing all these news concerning changes, imagine if I was a SW lover.

Hmm, I wonder if we are gonna have to wait until George Lucas is dead for us to see the versions that the George Lucas of the seventies wanted us to see them.

Personally, I understand and accept what Lucas is trying to do - unify all 6 movies as a whole. It's not like he's changing them for no reason.

Now, I'd LOVE to have the original versions like everyone else, and it does get annoying that he keeps making changes.

But just because I disagree with his decision as a filmmaker doesn't mean I'll accuse him of completely lacking artistic merit. Artists throughout history have done the same thing Lucas is doing now, mostly in music & literature, and nobody accuses them of being devoid artistically.

Oh come on guys, is it really that bad (with the exception of a few changes)? All Lucas is trying to do is make the original trilogy acceptable looking for today's kids. Think about it, if most kids saw the original trilogy today, they would think the effects aren't good and so on... But I think watching these versions will be fun. when I watch the special editions, it's like a new experience, as with the originals, and as it will definatley be with these versions. We know we are all going to rush out and buys these anyway. So lets not hate Lucas, he's only doing this for the fans. If he weren't, do you think there would be a special features disc? No! We would be getting the bare bones copies, and we would by those without a doubt in our minds. But no, Lucas is doing more just for the fans.

Who cares? I'll buy it anyway!! Somo of you are so hypocrate !!

lord-of-sith wrote:But no, Lucas is doing more just for the fans.

But the fans don't want it. If that's his aim, then I'd say he's missed his mark. I wouldn't mind the new versions, he just needs to include the original. He won't do that, though, as he claims that the new version is the only version.

reyquila wrote:Somo of you are so hypocrate !!

How so?

-Aaron

lord-of-sith wrote:Oh come on guys, is it really that bad (with the exception of a few changes)? All Lucas is trying to do is make the original trilogy acceptable looking for today's kids. Think about it, if most kids saw the original trilogy today, they would think the effects aren't good and so on... But I think watching these versions will be fun. when I watch the special editions, it's like a new experience, as with the originals, and as it will definatley be with these versions. We know we are all going to rush out and buys these anyway. So lets not hate Lucas, he's only doing this for the fans. If he weren't, do you think there would be a special features disc? No! We would be getting the bare bones copies, and we would by those without a doubt in our minds. But no, Lucas is doing more just for the fans.

Great. Let's add colour to Frankenstien. Lets change the effects on The Wizard of Oz. Let's change Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Just so "kids today" can be bothered to sit on their asses for two hours and watch them because they have digital muppets added.

I don't mind too much. For the most part, the movies that I know and love are still on these DVDs. A few little changes here and there won't keep me from buying them.

I am truly looking forward to seeing the DVD version of Star Wars I admire Lucas for wanting to better his work which I do beleive it is his to change if he so desires. But I do wish that he would make the originals available as well which I am sure that someshere down the road they will be made available. I think it is smart to release a new updated version first and then he can get the real collectors to double dip later on. But for me the ones that come out in September will be good enough for me.

Who are you to say that the fans don't want it? I know a lot of fans who do want these changes to be made. Some of them even want the fixed version of the trilogy more than they want the original version. I would of course, like to have the original versions made available, for prosperity's sake, but if there is only one version that will be made available I will choose a version that is fixed 100% of the time. If the orignal version is ever made available on DVD, I would only watch it occasionally. My Star Wars watching time would be heavily dominated by the 2004 editions. Sure there are one or two changes I don't agree with, but the vast majority of the changes are improvements.

I also think those who keep complaining that they want the original versions are just whining because they can't have what they want. Those are the people who are sick. G. Lucas is finally able to make these films the way he wanted them to be made in the first place. There is no rule that says you can't go back and finish something that you created long ago, and make it better. I for one am glad he is not listening to the crazy whiners, and instead making these films look better, and fit better with the prequel trilogy.

I'll admit it and say that personally, these changes don't bother me because it's obvious that Lucas is trying to create some continuity between the original trilogy and the prequels (though Alec Guiness not being replaced by Ewan McGregor at the end of Jedi makes absolutely no sense). Having said that, though, I still find it ridiculous that Lucas insists on having these be the ONLY versions available on the market. At least Spielberg knew how to treat fans by offering both the original and SE verions of E.T. It's a shame his buddy Lucas can't follow suit.

Disneykid wrote: (though Alec Guiness not being replaced by Ewan McGregor at the end of Jedi makes absolutely no sense).

It makes sense to me. They are all at the age when they were last Jedi Knights - Anakin was last a Jedi when he was in his 20s, Obi-Wan and Yoda were last Jedi in their old age.