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Director Buddies: Rate Spielberg & Lucas' Films

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:17 pm
by Jack
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 8.5/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 6/10
4. 1941 - Haven't Seen It
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 8.5/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 10/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 9/10
8. The Color Purple - Haven't Seen It
9. Empire of the Sun - 8/10
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 7.5/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 8.5/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9.5/10
14. Schindler's List - 8.5/10
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 8/10
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - Haven't Seen It
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 6.5/10
19. Minority Report - 8.5/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - 7/10
21. The Terminal - 9/10

After making this list, I'm shocked to realize just how many films of his I haven't seen. For some reason, it hadn't occured to me.

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 9.5/10
3. Star Wars - 9/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 8.5/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8.5/10

Personally, I think I like all of Lucas's films (that I've seen) more than almost all of Spielberg's. Yet, I still consider Spielberg to be a much better director. I honestly think that any measure of greatness in Lucas' movies is 30% him, and 70% everybody else involved.

Re: Director Buddies: Rate Spielberg & Lucas' Films

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:35 pm
by Mr. Toad
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 9/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8/10
4. 1941 - 4/10(With the cast and director I am not sure how this turned out as bad as it did)
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 9.5/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 8.5/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 7/10
8. The Color Purple - 8.5/10
9. Empire of the Sun - Havent seen it
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 9/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 8.5/10
13. Jurassic Park - 8.5/10
14. Schindler's List - Haven't Seen It
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - Haven't seen it
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - Haven't Seen It
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - Havent Seen it
19. Minority Report - Havent Seen It
20. Catch Me if You Can - 7/10
21. The Terminal - Havent Seen it

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 8/10
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode V - - 7/10
5. Star Wars: Episode VI - - 8.5/10
6. Howard The Duck - 2/10

Easy to rate Lucas's movies high when you don't include the dog's like Howard the Duck.

Re: Director Buddies: Rate Spielberg & Lucas' Films

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:17 pm
by Maerj
JimmyJackJunior wrote:Steven Spielberg



George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 8/10
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode V - - 7/10
5. Star Wars: Episode VI - - 8.5/10
6. Howard The Duck - 2/10

Easy to rate Lucas's movies high when you don't include the dog's like Howard the Duck.
I think that Jack is rating movies that the two directors actually directed. Lucas didn't direct Howard the Duck, he was only one of the producers. Likewise for Star Wars V and VI, he came up with the story, produced and directed certain scenes but wasn't credited as the director.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:09 pm
by Mr. Toad
I stand corrected - I remembered Lucas as the director.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:36 pm
by MickeyMousePal
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 8/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 7/10
4. 1941 - 3/10
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 8/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 10/10
8. The Color Purple - 8/10
9. Empire of the Sun - Haven't seen it
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 10/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 9/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9/10
14. Schindler's List - Haven't Seen It
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 8/10
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - Haven't Seen It
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - Haven't Seen it
19. Minority Report - 10/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - Haven't Seen it
21. The Terminal - Haven't Seen it

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - Haven't Seen It
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. The Empire Strikes Back 10/10
5. Return of the Jedi 10/10
6. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 7/10
7. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8/10

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:28 pm
by indianajdp
Jack--

You haven't seen Saving Private Ryan? Get out and rent it NOW. The first 25 minutes are as intense as you will ever see on film.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:48 pm
by Jack
indianajdp wrote:Jack--

You haven't seen Saving Private Ryan? Get out and rent it NOW. The first 25 minutes are as intense as you will ever see on film.
I've been meaning to rent SPR (and the rest of his films I haven't seen) for a while. Like I said before, it didn't really hit me till now just how many I haven't seen, so I'll likely pick up my pace in checking all of them out now. I've heard many great things about Ryan, so I really look forward to it. Thanks!

Re: Director Buddies: Rate Spielberg & Lucas' Films

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:23 am
by yoda_four
Maerj wrote:
JimmyJackJunior wrote:Steven Spielberg



George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 8/10
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode V - - 7/10
5. Star Wars: Episode VI - - 8.5/10
6. Howard The Duck - 2/10

Easy to rate Lucas's movies high when you don't include the dog's like Howard the Duck.
I think that Jack is rating movies that the two directors actually directed. Lucas didn't direct Howard the Duck, he was only one of the producers. Likewise for Star Wars V and VI, he came up with the story, produced and directed certain scenes but wasn't credited as the director.
A quick Imdb check revelead:

Director - filmography
(In Production) (2000s) (1990s) (1970s) (1960s)

1. Star Wars: Episode III (2005) (post-production)
2. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002)

3. Short Chaos 10 (2000)
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
5. Captivated '92: The Video Collection (1991)(video "Rush, Rush")
6. Star Wars (1977)
7. American Graffiti (1973)
8. THX 1138 (1971)

9. THX 1138:4EB (1970)
10. Making of 'The Rain People', The (1969)
11. Filmmaker (1968)
12. 6-18-67 (1967)
13. Anyone Lived in a Pretty How Town (1967)
14. Emperor, The (1967)
15. 1:42:08: A Man and His Car (1966)
16. Freiheit (1966) (as Lucas)
17. Herbie (1966)
18. Look at Life (1965)

I doubt we can really count his short student films

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:32 am
by yoda_four
Steven Spielberg

Sugarland Express, The - Haven't seen
Jaws - 9.5/10
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8.5/10
1941 - Haven't Seen
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 9.5/10
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 10/10
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 7.75/10
Color Purple, The - Haven't seen
Empire of the Sun - Haven't seen
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 10/10
Always - Haven't seen
Hook - 8/10
Jurassic Park - 9.5/10
Schindler's List - Haven't seen
Lost World, The: Jurassic Park - 9.5/10
Amistad - Haven't seen
Saving Private Ryan - It's been a while.........
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - It's been a while......
Minority Report - Haven't seen
Catch Me If You Can - 9.5/10
Terminal, The - Haven't seen it yet

George Lucas

THX 1138 - Haven't seen
American Graffiti - 9.25/10
Star Wars - 10/10
Star Wars: Episode 1: The Phantom Menace - 8/10
Star Wars: Episode 2: Attack of the Clones - 8/10

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:03 am
by DisneyChris
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - N/A
2. Jaws - N/A
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - N/A
4. 1941 - N/A
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 8.5/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 6.5/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 8/10
8. The Color Purple - N/A
9. Empire of the Sun - N/A
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 8/10
11. Always - N/A
12. Hook - 7/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9/10
14. Schindler's List - N/A
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 7/10
16. Amistad - N/A
17. Saving Private Ryan - 7.5/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 6.5/10
19. Minority Report - 7/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - 7.5/10
21. The Terminal - N/A

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - N/A
2. American Graffiti - N/A
3. Star Wars - 9.5/10
4. The Empire Strikes Back 9/10
5. Return of the Jedi 9/10
6. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 8/10
7. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8.5/10

Re: Director Buddies: Rate Spielberg & Lucas' Films

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:21 pm
by 2099net
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 8.5/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 7/10
4. 1941 - 7/10
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 7.5/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 8/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 8/10
8. The Color Purple - 8/10
9. Empire of the Sun - Haven't Seen It
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 7/10
11. Always - 7.5/10 (crappy DVD though - terrible picture)
12. Hook - 6/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9/10
14. Schindler's List - 9.75/10
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 6/10
16. Amistad - 7/10
17. Saving Private Ryan - 7/10 (the dramatic flow is all wrong)
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 6/10
19. Minority Report - 8/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - 6/10
21. The Terminal - Haven't Seen It

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 7/10
3. Star Wars - 7/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 4/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 3/10 (Yes, I think it's worse)

Well that list pretty much sums it up. 21 vs 5. If Lucas really wants to be taken seriously, he needs to stop making excuses about not making films

[whiney voice]The technology isn't ready to match my imagination[/whiney voice]

and actually make films. Any films. The technology isn't there, fine. Make a film about an office worker, an army captain, an artic explorer, a circus performer. Anything. Just made a film and put you heart and soul into it.

Not only has Spielberg has a wide range of subjects for his films, and he was willing to take a risk on Lucas' technology long before Lucas himself did.

Just make a films instead of constantly meddling with the films you have made.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:25 pm
by bean:therio
Duel was released theatrically here in Europe so I am counting that one as a full movie. :P

Steven Spielberg

1. Duel - 7/10
2. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
3. Jaws - 8.5/10
4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 9.5/10
5. 1941 - 7/10
6. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 8.5/10
7. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 10/10
8. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 8/10
9. The Color Purple - Haven't Seen It
10. Empire of the Sun - 8/10
11. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 8.5/10
12. Always - 8/10
13. Hook - 6.5
14. Jurassic Park - 8.5/10
15. Schindler's List - 9/10
16. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 7.5/10
17. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
18. Saving Private Ryan - 8/10
19. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 8/10
20. Minority Report - 8/10
21. Catch Me if You Can - 9/10
22. The Terminal - Haven't Seen It

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - 7.5/10
2. American Graffiti - Haven't Seen It
3. Star Wars - 9/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 6/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 5/10

I can't believe how people are giving the last two SW-films such good ratings. I find them completely un-re-watchable.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:46 pm
by Luke
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 9/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8/10
4. 1941 - Haven't Seen It
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 7/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 8/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 5.5/10
8. The Color Purple - Haven't Seen It
9. Empire of the Sun - 7.5/10
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 6/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 5/10
13. Jurassic Park - 10/10
14. Schindler's List - 8.25/10
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 8/10
16. Amistad - 7/10
17. Saving Private Ryan - 8/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 6/10
19. Minority Report - 7/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - 7.5/10
21. The Terminal - Haven't Seen It

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 8.5/10
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 9/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 7/10

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:52 pm
by englishboy
1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - 9/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8/10
4. 1941 - 2/10
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 7/10 (come on, it's sappy)
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 4/10
8. The Color Purple - 7/10
9. Empire of the Sun - 6/10
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 8/10
11. Always - 6/10
12. Hook - 7/10
13. Jurassic Park - 6/10 (Without the effects, what's left? But the effects are good.)
14. Schindler's List - 10/10 (The bomb, baby!)
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 5/10
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - 7/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 3/10
19. Minority Report - 8.5/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - Have not seen it
21. The Terminal - Haven't seen it and it don't look so good by its trailer



George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - 9.5/10
3. Star Wars - 10/10 - 5/10 (I loved this as a very young kid, BUT when I saw it again a few years ago, I was like, yikes, it kind of sucks. The dialogue was written by Wooden Man. So two scores. One for age 7. One for now.)
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 0/10 (Do these scores move into negative?)
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - -1/10 (I guess they do!)

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:20 pm
by Disneykid
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - I've only seen portions of this, not enough to rate
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Haven't Seen It
4. 1941 - Haven't Seen It
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 10/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 8/10
8. The Color Purple - 8/10
9. Empire of the Sun - Haven't Seen It
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 9/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 6.5/10
13. Jurassic Park - 7/10
14. Schindler's List - 8.5/10
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - Haven't Seen It
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - 7.5/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 9.5/10
19. Minority Report - 7.5/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - 8/10
21. The Terminal - Haven't Seen It


George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti - Haven't Seen It
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 8/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8.5/10

Man, I need to see more Spielberg films than I thought... :shock:

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:28 pm
by Yuki
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Haven't Seen It
2. Jaws - Haven't Seen it (sad, but true)
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8/10
4. 1941 - Haven't Seen It
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 9/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 10/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 9.5/10
8. The Color Purple - Haven't Seen It
9. Empire of the Sun -Haven't seen it
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 8/10
11. Always - Haven't Seen It
12. Hook - 9.3/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9.7/10
14. Schindler's List - Haven't Seen It
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 8/10
16. Amistad - Haven't Seen It
17. Saving Private Ryan - 8.6/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 9.6/10
19. Minority Report - 9/10
20. Catch Me if You Can - Haven't seen it
21. The Terminal - Haven't seen it

George Lucas

1. THX 1138 - Haven't Seen It
2. American Graffiti -Haven't Seen it
3. Star Wars - 8.9/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 8.5/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8.3/10

Wow! It hadn't occured to me how little of these movies I've seen!

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:28 pm
by DDMAN26
Steven Spielberg

1. The Sugarland Express - Saw it once, don't remember too much I'll say 5/10
2. Jaws -10/10
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 10/10
4. 1941 -3/10
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10/10
6. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - 9/10
7. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 6/10
8. The Color Purple - 8/10
9. Empire of the Sun - 8/10
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 8/10
11. Always - 5/10
12. Hook - 6/10
13. Jurassic Park - 9/10
14. Schindler's List -10/10
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 6/10
16. Amistad - 7/10
17. Saving Private Ryan - 10/10
18. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - 1/10
19. Minority Report -9/10
20. Catch Me if You Can -9/10
21. The Terminal -Haven't seen it yet.

What can I say despite the occasional misstep he's my favorite director working.


George Lucas

1. THX 1138 -Saw it a long time ago 5/10
2. American Graffiti - 910
3. Star Wars - 10/10
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - 7/10
5. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - 8/10