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Restore Disneyland Anaheim's Tomorrowland

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:53 pm
by Grunches
Here is a link to Disneyland's Tomorrowland PhotoEssay: Tomorrowland, Then and Now

http://www.savedisney.com/news/disneyla ... 1104.1.asp#

Here is a link to a petition to restore the magic back into Tomorrowland

http://www.petitiononline.com/disneytl/petition.html

It is sad how Disney has been lacking in ALL their theme parks. :( Now is the time to stand up and join as one to sign this petition to have a better Tomorrowland for future generations!

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:09 pm
by Edge
Everytime i go back it seems like the theme parks fall into more and more dispair.

Last time on pirates, there was gum all over the rocks.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:20 pm
by Ludwig Von Drake
The pictures were interesting, though I think some of the criticizem wasn't necessary.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:55 pm
by TheZue
Edge wrote:Everytime i go back it seems like the theme parks fall into more and more dispair.

Last time on pirates, there was gum all over the rocks.
You gotta half wonder if people are just more willing to wreck things now days too though. The last time we were in disneyland we passed two kids who had just spotted the guy dressed up as Peter Pan and they were discussing running over to kick him :roll:

Tomorrowland just needs more attractions open. The overall design isn't that bad, at least this one shouldn't age really badly. The white design was more of a 60's land than tomorrowland, and always reminded me of how "furturistic" star trek was :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:59 pm
by Mr. Toad
No, I really don't think it is that people are more willing to wreck things these days.

Walt's vision was a totally immersive Disney experience with everything immaculatly kept. Unfortunately, cutbacks to custodial and more alarmingly ride maintenance staff has made that impossible.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:03 pm
by TheZue
JimmyJackJunior wrote:
Walt's vision was a totally immersive Disney experience with everything immaculatly kept. Unfortunately, cutbacks to custodial and more alarmingly ride maintenance staff has made that impossible.
The ride maintenance aspect of it is REALLY scary. Thundermountain railroad had another accident: http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al040604a.htm

I hate to say it but I'm going to be really leary of that ride now.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:16 pm
by Ludwig Von Drake
At leat no one was injured this time.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:52 pm
by MickeyMousePal
Disneyland and Disney World without Walt Disney around creators lost imagination and creativity in the attractions and rides.
I really like the old Tomorrowland better then the New Tomorrowland because the new Tomorrowland looks so dark and evil in a way.
Every time I go to Tomorrowland less and less people are their due because it's boring the only thing that keep them there is the food.
Now with those mean and bratty kids they don't respect anything when I was their age I didn't want to destroy anything at Disneyland because I wanted Walt Disney dream to go on. Now day’s gum, paper and food is all over the floor and other places it shouldn't belong. Maybe the reason is that Michael Eisner hires less janitors then Walt Disney did.
Every time I go to Disneyland one or more rides are not working. What's up with that? I remember when I was small all the rides would work.
I'm really sad that Captain EO, the People Movers, Submarines, Rocket Rods and the Skyway are gone. I never went on any of these rides except the Captain EO 3-D show but I don't know why that was maybe because they closed the rides or my family preferred to do something else. Also Space Mountain was closed for a very long time and it opens in summer 2005 why so long? The only shows and attractions I still enjoy are Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean; It's a Small World, Autopia, and Splash Mountain, Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Fantasmic and Snow White Play.

Come on fix up Disneyland like it uses to be!!!!
We have to let the next generation fill happy about Disneyland like we did!!!
I went to Disneyland in the late 80's and now I prefer to live the old memories then see the new Disneyland. :roll:

I found a website that tells the Timeline of Disneyland so you could remember what was open and what closed at Disneyland.

http://www.justdisney.com/disneyland/ti ... index.html

Image
http://www.disneypix.com/potw/OldTomorrow01.jpg

Look how clean it use to be and look how everyone dresses and repects Disneyland not like now. :x
I want the Old Tomorrowland back!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:07 pm
by pinkrenata
MickeyMousePal wrote: I never went on any of these rides except the Captain EO 3-D show but I don't know why that was maybe because they closed the rides or my family preferred to do something else.
Uh, maybe that's why they closed. You gotta go on the rides if you want to keep them open, Pals!

Re: Restore Disneyland Anaheim's Tomorrowland

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:22 pm
by Kram Nebuer
Grunches wrote:Here is a link to Disneyland's Tomorrowland PhotoEssay: Tomorrowland, Then and Now

http://www.savedisney.com/news/disneyla ... 1104.1.asp#

Here is a link to a petition to restore the magic back into Tomorrowland

http://www.petitiononline.com/disneytl/petition.html

It is sad how Disney has been lacking in ALL their theme parks. :( Now is the time to stand up and join as one to sign this petition to have a better Tomorrowland for future generations!
:( That was so sad (Part One Photo Essay)! Even with the ritzy new look, it wasn't even original for DL! It was copied from DL Paris! I was thoroughly upset about the loss of Mary Blair's art, but the mural over it is at least not as bad as covering her art with a spaceship. Even though the original tomorrowland was outdated, couldn't they redo it but keep everything where it was? And what's so expensive about putting the People Mover cars and mechanics back in? It's not like it'd be a whole new project like Rocket Rods was. Now I have to see part two and hope its not as bad...

Part Two: :( :cry: :( :cry: :( :cry: :( :cry: :( :cry: :( :cry: Words can't describe....

Part Three: see above...I read about Submarine Voyage in More Mouse Tales. It said all this stuff about water problems, leaks, bad air ventillation in the subs, the hard work for the cast members at load and unload, the paint peeling off of the figures, etc. so it is understandable that they closed the ride and don't plan to bring it back. But I hope they hurry up with the Nemo plans, and bring back the PeopleMover and Skyway. The Matterhorn looks like its been attacked w/o the Skyway running through it. I hope the 50th anniversary compels DIsney to revamp Tomorrowland. This photoessay has made me depressed :( . I will go now and watch my old Disneyland Fun Sing along song and hope for the future.

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:35 am
by 2099net
I can't see Disney re-opening Captain EO, not with everything that's going on. You can't blame Eisner for that!

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:47 am
by Edge
Like many disney products, it's going through it's down time.

The parks are falling into horrible disrepair and every trip features more and more workers at the parks who don't look like they want to be there.

Tomorrowland is a joke at this point and Disney has shown they have little interest in rennovating the parks and adding new "classic" rides. Heck that much was evident by California Adventure which is a west coast copy of mgm studios.

As for the Thunder Mountain there's something of an eery feeling going on that ride after the accident. You just always wonder if a certain sound is something wrong and the ride just doesn't feel right or like it used to.

It sounds kind of morbid but we made a stop there for our honeymoon and I couldn't help but wonder where the unfortunate accident happened. You think about a young man who went to disney to have a good time just like yourself and never thought that could happen.

It's very much a reflection of how far disney has fallen since their comeback in the early 90's.

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:22 pm
by Kram Nebuer
Edge wrote:Tomorrowland is a joke at this point and Disney has shown they have little interest in rennovating the parks and adding new "classic" rides. Heck that much was evident by California Adventure which is a west coast copy of mgm studios.
First of all, congratulations on your marriage! I hope the BTM accident didn't spoil the honeymoon.

Only part of California Adventure (basically Hollywood Picture Backlot) is a copy of MGM studios. Most of it is original stuff, which I'm glad because a lot of new things in the parks are copies of each other. Anyhow, DCA only took Muppet*Vision 4D, Playhouse Disney-Live and some of the animation tour stuff, like the Return to Neverland short with Robin Williams, but I read somewhere that it was changed to a Mushu hosted short. The Hollywood Tower of Terror is a copy, but it is definitely different than the original. I also believe the Who Wants to be a Millionaire-Play It! may be at DCA, but I'm not sure. Also, It's Tough to be a Bug from Animal Kingdom was put in DCA. Those are the only things that I can think of that are copies, everything else is new! On the other hand, the popular Soarin' Over California is coming to Epcot with the same California video. It wouldn't hurt to film a film more fitting since Epcot is about the future and the World Showcase.

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:02 pm
by Edge
The problem is that though they only took some rides, they make up most of em. The rest lack anything really special to make you remember them.

Soarin over California is cool but it just seemed like even a step down from what they would have done in Epcot {more visual rides}.

The whole "beyond the scenes" approach to Cal ADV is neat and at the same time, too similar to MGM studios.

It's not that I didn't enjoy it per say, just that I expect more from Disney. They were the company that raised the bar and now they seem to keep finding ways to lower it.

But it was still a great honeymoon and a lot of fun. Me and the Mrs. went a little overboard getting Disney art though, I only hope our new place when we move is big enough to hold it all.

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:28 pm
by TheZue
Gotta Agree that most of DCA was forgetable but there were some very notable exceptions:

California Screaming...I LOVED this ride, and went on it way too many times :D
The antennas on the bathroom symbols in the bugs life area....too cute!
Maliboomer....great view at the top
The mulhollund Drive rollercoaster...a good mouse type coaster

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:30 am
by Leonia
After being to Disneyland three times (not counting this year's Mother's Day visit) I found Disneyland Adventures to be a little lacking.

Thank goodness when I went there two years ago Mom and I got passes from our cable company (which meant we got in free :D). I hate to say it, but DCA doesn't seem to be worth the full admission price.

(Back on subject...)

When I went to Disneyland last month, I did notice Tomorrowland didn't seem to have that much cool stuff to do (maybe except the Segways). It's like each time I visit the park it seems to fall apart more and more...the biggest thing that caught my eye was how colorless "it's a small world" was. Last time I remember it was blue and pink, and now that attraction's all white.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:13 pm
by Maerj
Kram Nebuer wrote: On the other hand, the popular Soarin' Over California is coming to Epcot with the same California video. It wouldn't hurt to film a film more fitting since Epcot is about the future and the World Showcase.
They are going to make a new film for it. They are only keeping the original film for a year since it will be the 50th anniversary of Disneyland.

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:53 am
by Kram Nebuer
Maerj wrote:They are going to make a new film for it. They are only keeping the original film for a year since it will be the 50th anniversary of Disneyland.
Really?!?!?! :D That news made my day! I would hate that the new attraction for Epcot is just an exact copy of the most popular ride at DCA, put in as an effort to boost attendance to Epcot. Anyone here heard of Project Gemini? I think it was on Jim Hill's site and he said it was to be called Soarin' Over Epcot. It would be awesome to be in Epcot the day they're filming!

Anyhow, I'm sorry for getting off topic. It's so sad that DL's Tomorrowland is falling a part and is boring what with the Disney Treasures Tomorrowland being just released.

Re: Restore Disneyland Anaheim's Tomorrowland

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:21 am
by Eeyore
Grunches wrote:Here is a link to Disneyland's Tomorrowland PhotoEssay: Tomorrowland, Then and Now

http://www.savedisney.com/news/disneyla ... 1104.1.asp#
Wow. That was painful.

I haven't been since 1995, didn't realise just how bad it's gotten. I was so mad when the Skyway got removed. At least I got to ride the Astrojets and Peoplemover one last time.

A really great site for seeing how Disney has evolved is Yesterland (http://www.yesterland.com/)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:29 am
by rnrlesnar
It seems that DisneyLand is getting most of the criticism here. I haven't been there since 89 and was only 8 years old at the time. We go to Disney World instead with January 2003 being the last time I went and it was better than ever in my opinion. Everything about the Disney World resort is first class. They do seem to focus on Disney World with DisneyLand being the step child of the parks now. Aren't they primarily celebrating DisneyLand's 50th anniverary in Disney World?