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Could this be WDAS first Fairy-Tale since Frozen? We'll see on Sept. 9.

https://thedisinsider.com/2022/08/30/ru ... next-year/

This is the original article:
https://deadline.com/2022/07/disney-pen ... 235074129/

The way Deadline describes the project means that it is definitely not an animated film, and so far I have a hard time trusting Disinsider, I see that they still use the name Foster even though it's a cancelled Blue Sky project. I think they have their information mixed-up.

I may believe though that the film might have animation in it and that's probably why they think it's an animated film.

The report by The DisInsider seems like complete BS. Penelope is a live-action project by Walt Disney Studios, not WDAS. Besides, we know that the next WDAS movie is based on personal story by Carlos Lopez Estrada, so it's highly unlikely it's an adaptation of a European fairy tale. Even though Estrada left the project recently, I believe the movie was too far along in the pipeline to be shelved and he was just replaced as the director.

Farerb wrote:This is the original article:
https://deadline.com/2022/07/disney-pen ... 235074129/

The way Deadline describes the project means that it is definitely not an animated film, and so far I have a hard time trusting Disinsider, I see that they still use the name Foster even though it's a cancelled Blue Sky project. I think they have their information mixed-up.

I may believe though that the film might have animation in it and that's probably why they think it's an animated film.

Yeah, I knew Foster was that cancelled Blue Sky project. According to the Deadline article, it's getting a theatrical release. Odd that Disney is doing a live action fairy tale musical not based on one of their animated ones. So, their 2023 feature is still a mystery.

Sotiris wrote:The report by The DisInsider seems like complete BS. Penelope is a live-action project by Walt Disney Studios, not WDAS. Besides, we know that the next WDAS movie is based on personal story by Carlos Lopez Estrada, so it's highly unlikely it's an adaptation of a European fairy tale. Even though Estrada left the project recently, I believe the movie was too far along in the pipeline to be shelved and he was just replaced as the director.

Wonder what Director they chose to replace him? Sounds like another Brenda Chapman/Nathan Greno incident.

To me it's very clear what Disney's strategy is: use live action films to capitalize on nostalgia, while animated movies are made in order to lure new people in. Fairytales are part of nostalgia so with that in mind, I have no expectation that Disney will ever make a new animated adaptation of a fairytale, and quite frankly I rather they didn't considering that they are not translated well in CGI.

Well, we only have two legit fairy tales from Disney in 3D--and Frozen was fine. Tangled though...some of the musical sequences did't work to me, particularly "Mother Knows Best." Of the fairytale-esque films--Moana, Encanto, Raya, PIXAR's Brave--only PIXAR's Brave is bad, imo, which I blame more on Chapman's removal than anything. Elinor has a great design that doesn't translate well to 3D, imo.... Frozen is probably the first film where they got the sort of fragile and delicate features of the more thin, finely detailed female character designs right that Tangled and Brave had issues with, imo.

I do hope they'll do another fairy tale again. I mean, if they really want to repeat Frozen's success....

Well, such a source should`ve (of course) been taken with a grain of salt. But of course there`s a part of me who would like if Disney made another fairy tale adaptation. Despite how The Princess and the Pea is somewhat a skimpy story to expand upon.

I wish the DisInsider rumor was true, but as others have pointed out, though Deadline's article didn't specify whether it was a live-action film or not, it totally sounds like it is, plus all the people involved come from live action.

DisneyEra wrote:

Sotiris wrote:The report by The DisInsider seems like complete BS. Penelope is a live-action project by Walt Disney Studios, not WDAS. Besides, we know that the next WDAS movie is based on personal story by Carlos Lopez Estrada, so it's highly unlikely it's an adaptation of a European fairy tale. Even though Estrada left the project recently, I believe the movie was too far along in the pipeline to be shelved and he was just replaced as the director.

Wonder what Director they chose to replace him? Sounds like another Brenda Chapman/Nathan Greno incident.

It'll be interesting to see if the project is still in development and who's directing it, if Carlos López Estrada was indeed replaced and the film wasn't shelved. I hope we do learn about it at the D23 Expo.

Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:07 pm Well, we only have two legit fairy tales from Disney in 3D--and Frozen was fine. Tangled though...some of the musical sequences did't work to me, particularly "Mother Knows Best." Of the fairytale-esque films--Moana, Encanto, Raya, PIXAR's Brave--only PIXAR's Brave is bad, imo, which I blame more on Chapman's removal than anything. Elinor has a great design that doesn't translate well to 3D, imo.... Frozen is probably the first film where they got the sort of fragile and delicate features of the more thin, finely detailed female character designs right that Tangled and Brave had issues with, imo.

To be honest, I never thought that Brave was completely bad movie. Just an flawed and uneven one. When I saw it originally, I was a little turned off by it`s much criticized flaws: It`s cluttered story and lack of a clear vision. But Brave eventually grew on me due to it`s strenghts. Since at it`s best it was better than Disney`s entries to Princess movies from the Revival era (sorry to say, but that`s my taste ). But it`s a pity that they couldn`t be able to save the project completely from it`s flaws.

As for my own changes to the story, I wouldn`t mind that the movie had a curse. It`s just a pity that it wasn`t a more dangerous curse with more disastrous consequences. And make the bear curse befall the whole kingdom and not just Queen Ellinor, the triples and Mor`Du.

I do hope they'll do another fairy tale again. I mean, if they really want to repeat Frozen's success....

True. Honestly, it should`ve been the major reason for Disney to make fairy tales again (which makes the rumor of Disney discarding them between Tangled and Frozen a sheer irony ). But remember that Disney had a similar case for it`s previous juggernaut, The Lion King. Since Disney could`ve been tempted to make animal movies for it`s success. And despite how The Emperor`s New Groove technically has an animal as a lead character, they didn`t deliberately greenlit one before Brother Bear. Which was meant to repeat Lion King`s territory and trademarks.

Disney's Divinity wrote:I do hope they'll do another fairy tale again. I mean, if they really want to repeat Frozen's success....

I think Encanto solidified in their mind the idea they don't need fairy tale adaptations to be successful.

I like a good Fairy Tale movie as much as anyone, but they would be kind of scrapping the barrel to find a new previously known one with a strong enough story to make a feature length film. I think that has more to do with why we haven't seen many newer entries rather than how they look in 3D.

I think they've grown a lot more confident in their own ability to craft an original idea to make a successful film, and that's why we see more of this in the newer era. Any newer fairy tale films will either be completely original or have the barest of bones connect to the original tale, which is kind of how any fairy tale from the renaissance onward have trended anyway.

I'm sort of relieved that this will be live-action. Seems less damming to the Princess Brand if it doesn't work out!

I don't really mind that they have original films--or films only loosely based on a fairy tale or myth somewhere--as long as they make them feel like a princess film. I think Encanto does manage that vibe, but I still crave a good (magical) villain again in one of their newer films. I mean, Hans, Te Ka, Bellwether, and Namaari / Verona are better than nothing at all, but I'm waiting for them to take a chance and attempt another Facilier and Gothel (or even better than that--an Ursula, Frollo, Scar, Hades, etc.). It's a shame we're getting so many stories with female protagonists who can fight without proper villains to challenge them and allow them to show off the way Aladdin did with Jafar, for example, or Phillip with Maleficent. Or Mulan with Shan-Yu even. I really want a magical villain for Elsa to face in Frozen III, especially if III is their planned end for the film franchise.

I wish they'd make a film that used swans as its base, for example, doesn't have to be the Swan Princess ballet. There were lots of fairy tales that centered around swans, people turning into swans, etc., they could pick one and say "inspired by..." and go to town. And so many myths and folk tales around the world--doesn't necessarily have to be European. For example, when I was a child, I remember my first grade teacher reading some book on Anansi the Spider that had a gorgeous design. I'd love if they made a film based off an African myth with a similar design aesthetic to the one featured in that book, it would be utterly beautiful.