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Like this year, Disney has a handful of choices for the Academy's original songs. Which songs do you think will be nominated? A complete Disney takeover?

Here's the breakdown as of August 10:

Aladdin
Speechless: Music by Alan Menken; lyrics by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul

Lion King
Spirit: Music and lyrics by Ilya Salmanzadeh, Labrinth and Beyoncé
Never Too Late: Music and lyrics by Elton John and Tim Rice

Frozen 2
Into the Unknown: Music: Robert Lopez; lyrics by Kristen Anderson-Lopez
Other Frozen 2 songs TBA. Music: Robert Lopez; lyrics by Kristen Anderson-Lopez

Toy Story 4
I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away: Music and lyrics by Randy Newman.
The Ballad of Lonesome Cowboy: Music and lyrics by Randy Newman.

Spirit and one of the Frozen songs, probably the one sung by Elsa.

I don't the rest are good enough to be nominated. To be honest I don't think Spirit is good enough to be nominated, but the power of Beyoncé™ shall not be ignored.

There's a mistake in your breakdown. Elton John and Tim Rice didn't write Spirit. Probably why it sucks so much.

Sotiris wrote:There's a mistake in your breakdown. Elton John and Tim Rice didn't write Spirit. Probably why it sucks so much.

Thanks! Wiki told me something else.

Wow, that line-up is already stacked with Oscar winners.

I'm guessing "Spirit" and one or two Frozen 2 songs will be nominated.

disneyprincess11 wrote:Like this year, Disney has a handful of choices for the Academy's original songs.

Yes, it's true; it looks like they could get more than one nomination. I haven't been paying attention yet to what songs other studios have released/will release though, so don't know how competitive the category will be this year. Cats will probably have an original song that could be nominated, and I think Elton John has a good chance with the song from Rocketman, but I don't know much more.

I predict "Into the Unknown" will definitely be nominated (probably the only song Disney will submit from Frozen 2), and maybe "Never Too Late" from The Lion King if Academy members choose it over "(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again". I think "Speechless" could be among the nominees too, but after Alan Menken was snubbed for "Evermore", I don't want to get my hopes up.

The nominations for the Feature Film and Animated Film categories at the Hollywood Music in Media Awards 2019 are out. Update: "Stand Up" from Harriet won Original Song in a Feature Film and "Beautiful Life" from Abominable won Original Song in an Animated Film.

Original Song (Feature Film)

Aladdin — "Speechless"
Written by Alan Menken, Benj Pasek & Justin Paul
Performed by Naomi Scott

Breakthrough — "I'm Standing With You"
Music & Lyrics by Diane Warren
Performed by Chrissy Metz

Harriet — "Stand Up"
Written by Cynthia Erivo & Joshuah Brian Campbell
Performed by Cynthia Erivo

Hobbs and Shaw — "Getting Started"
Written by Kyle Williams, Joel Rousseau, Justin Amundrud, Andrew DeRoberts & Zach Skelton
Performed by Performed by Aloe Blacc, JID

The Lion King — "Spirit"
Written by Ilya Salmanzadeh, Labrinth & Beyoncé
Performed by Beyoncé

Motherless Brooklyn — "Daily Battles"
Written by Thom Yorke
Performed by Thom Yorke & Flea

Rocketman — "I'm Gonna Love Me Again"
Written by Elton John & Bernie Taupin
Performed by Elton John & Taron Egerton


Original Song (Animated Film)

Abominable — "Beautiful Life"
Written by Bleta Rexha, David Saint Fleur, Samuel James Zammarelli, Nicholas Black & Christopher Tempest
Performed by Bebe Rexha

The Addams Family — "Haunted Heart"
Written by Christina Aguilera, Antonina Armato & Tim James
Performed by Christina Aguilera

Fozen II — "Into the Unknown"
Written by Kristen Anderson-Lopez & Robert Lopez
Performed by Idina Menzel

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World — "Together from Afar"
Written by John Powell & Jonsi
Performed by Jonsi

Klaus — "Invisible"
Written by Justin Tranter, Jussi Ilmari Karvinen p/k/a "Jussifer" & Caroline Pennell
Performed by Zara Larsson

The Secret Life of Pets 2 — "It's Gonna Be a Lovely Day"
Written by Adam Aminé Daniel, Bill Withers, Brandon Hamlin, Gamal Kosh Lewis, Marc Sibley, Nathan Cunningham & Skip Scarborough
Performed by LunchMoney Lewis ft. Aminé

I'm glad "Speechless" was nominated for those awards. Three songs from Disney films got nominations, four if we count "I'm Standing with You" from Fox's Breakthrough, which by the way, I didn't know until recently was written by Diane Warren. That song could also have chances at the Oscars.

With "Speechless" getting snubbed at the Grammys, its Oscar chances got severely diminished. I doubt it'll even be able to secure a nomination now.

Best Song Written for Visual Media 2019

"The Ballad of the Lonesome Cowboy" from Toy Story 4
"Girl in the Movies" from Dumplin'
"I'll Never Love Again" from A Star Is Born
"Spirit" from The Lion King
"Suspirium" from Suspiria

Source: https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/202 ... inees-list

Best Song Written for Visual Media 2020

"Beautiful Ghosts" from Cats
"Carried Me With You" from Onward
"Into the Unknown" from Frozen II
"No Time to Die" from No Time to Die
"Stand Up" from Harriet

Source: https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/202 ... inees-list

I feel you. How the heck Toy Story 4 got in over Ralph BTI is beyond me. And why is ASIB is eligible for another Grammy nom? It won last year.

Well, I already wasn't expecting an Oscar nomination for "Speechless", even though it's my favorite from Disney this year, but this is a shame nonetheless. Especially when two songs from the studio that in my opinion are inferior are nominated.

disneyprincess11 wrote:And why is ASIB is eligible for another Grammy nom? It won last year.

Exactly. I don't understand that either.

Could they have decided to put non "musical" songs? Because I believe non of these songs are sung by characters unknowingly.

Here's the explanation for why A Star Is Born is eligible this year, even though it won two awards at the last ceremony:

Wait, didn't A Star Is Born get nominated last year?

Yes and no. While the lead single from the Lady Gaga-Bradley Cooper awards darling, "Shallow," was eligible last year -- and was nominated for four GRAMMYs, winning two: Best Pop Duo/Group Performance and Best Song Written for Visual Media -- the full soundtrack was not released within the eligibility period and will thus be eligible for nominations at this year's awards.

While A Star Is Born missed out on Album of the Year in the 2020 nominations, it did land a nod for Best Compilation Soundtrack For Visual Media, as well as a Song of the Year recognition for "Always Remember Us This Way."

The true weirdness comes, however, in the category of Best Song Written For Visual Media. "Shallow" won this GRAMMY in 2019, and Gaga is nominated again in 2020 for "I'll Never Love Again." If she wins in January, she'll almost certainly be the first person to win back-to-back GRAMMYs in the same category for the same project.

Source: https://www.etonline.com/grammys-2020-l ... s-answered


I wouldn't be surprised if it won in the "Best Song Written for Visual Media" category again this year.

I don't think the lack of a Grammy nomination entirely does away with the chances for "Speechless", especially since three of the nominees are from movies released last year and are thus, ineligible for the Oscar.

D82 wrote:Here's the explanation for why A Star Is Born is eligible this year, even though it won two awards at the last ceremony:

Wait, didn't A Star Is Born get nominated last year?

Yes and no. While the lead single from the Lady Gaga-Bradley Cooper awards darling, "Shallow," was eligible last year -- and was nominated for four GRAMMYs, winning two: Best Pop Duo/Group Performance and Best Song Written for Visual Media -- the full soundtrack was not released within the eligibility period and will thus be eligible for nominations at this year's awards.

While A Star Is Born missed out on Album of the Year in the 2020 nominations, it did land a nod for Best Compilation Soundtrack For Visual Media, as well as a Song of the Year recognition for "Always Remember Us This Way."

The true weirdness comes, however, in the category of Best Song Written For Visual Media. "Shallow" won this GRAMMY in 2019, and Gaga is nominated again in 2020 for "I'll Never Love Again." If she wins in January, she'll almost certainly be the first person to win back-to-back GRAMMYs in the same category for the same project.

Source: https://www.etonline.com/grammys-2020-l ... s-answered


I wouldn't be surprised if it won in the "Best Song Written for Visual Media" category again this year.

Thanks for explaining. I'd love if Gaga won again!

Still hope Speechless gets an Oscar nomination.

'Toy Story 4' Composer Randy Newman on Writing a Song About an Introverted Spork
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... rk-1254132

estefan wrote:I don't think the lack of a Grammy nomination entirely does away with the chances for "Speechless", especially since three of the nominees are from movies released last year and are thus, ineligible for the Oscar.

It's true, "Girl in the Movies" and "Suspirium" are also from last year like the song form A Star Is Born, so "Speechless" won't have to compete with them at the Oscars. I actually don't know how much the Grammy nominations influence the Oscars in the song category. I've never paid much attention to the Grammys.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Thanks for explaining. I'd love if Gaga won again!

You're welcome. I think "I'll Never Love Again" is actually the best of the nominated songs, so I would also be glad if it won.

The nominations for Outstanding Original Song for Visual Media at The Society of Composers and Lyricists Awards 2019 are out.

Outstanding Original Song for Visual Media

Aladdin — "Speechless"
Written by Alan Menken, Benj Pasek & Justin Paul

Breakthrough — "I'm Standing With You"
Written by Diane Warren

Frozen II — "Into the Unknown"
Written by Kristen Anderson-Lopez & Robert Lopez

Harriet — "Stand Up"
Written by Cynthia Erivo & Joshuah Brian Campbell

Toni Morrison: The Pieces I Am — "High Above the Water"
Written by Kathryn Bostic

Source: https://thescl.com/news/scl-awards-nominations/

Wow, I'm so glad "Speechless" was nominated! All the nominees in the category are actually quite decent choices.

Sotiris wrote:There's a mistake in your breakdown. Elton John and Tim Rice didn't write Spirit. Probably why it sucks so much.

Oh, wow, I didn't know that. I mean, I still like it personally, but I thought Elton was going to be writing the song for Beyonce that was in-film? And then TLK: The Gift would be her own thing?