Mooky wrote:The main difference will be that they'll be cracking jokes at inopportune moments.
It may be blasphemous to say, but I always found certain comics elements of X-Men to be over-the-top and ridiculous (Asteroid M, Savage Land, cosmic adventures, Mojoverse, constant back-and-forth with the Phoenix Force...) and taking away from the discrimination angle. I guess it depends on how they're adapted for the big screen -- it worked in the animated series -- but I preferred the grounded tone of the Fox films (shadowy government experiments, Phoenix as Jean's powers evolving/split personality, etc.). I agree with JeanGreyForever that they placed too much emphasis on Wolverine and Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique to the detriment of other characters.
Lol.
Well, Asteroid M and the Savage Land debuted in the 60s when the X-Men were pretty tonally no different from any superhero team. This is the same era where Merlin was a villain, an alien was responsible for crippling Xavier, Xavier's stepbrother was a mystically powered juggernaut, another alien whisked away Magneto and Toad to outer space, and finally yet another alien was responsible for assembling a new Brotherhood (Factor Three) for the purpose of an alien invasion.
The X-Men have had cosmic adventures associated with them since the 70s when they made their big revival and while a lot of people aren't a fan of it, I've never had an issue with it. A good deal of their major stories involve the Shi'ar, the Starjammers, the Brood, etc. Mojoverse was always an odd fit but that's because Longshot was never meant to be involved with the X-Men. When his creator, Ann Nocenti, couldn't get a start on his own series right away, she asked Chris Claremont to utilize Longshot which is how Spiral and Mojo were introduced into the X-Universe.
I did like the split personality for Phoenix because that's not too different from how you could read the original story when Jean outright explains that the power of Phoenix has created a schizoid personality within her. Too bad the recent Dark Phoenix movie couldn't stick with that interpretation and had to involve new nonsense.
Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
I doubt that will be the only difference.
Cosmic adventures is something all established Marvel (and DC) have experienced numerous times. A natural consequence of living in a shared superhero universe next to aliens, demons and warlocks.
I have barely read any comics that include the Asteroid M, if we are talking about Magneto's headquarters, and I don't see why it should be required. Savage Land was created in a time when Iceman could shoot ice cream from his hands, but it has come a long way since then. With Ka-Zar, it got its own life.
Have never really liked the Mojoverse myself, but that is just a small part of the whole X-Men universe.
Agree that the whole concept of the Phoenix force has become repetitive.
And I'm possibly one of the few that didn't like Logan (the movie) either.
Skipping the whole discrimination concept for a while (or even for good) would feel like a breath of fresh air. It may have made partly sense in a world where mutants were the only superhumans, but in a world where they are just one of many different kinds, it makes far less sense. Shouldn't humans be just as worried about demons crawling out from Hell or other parts of the netherworld, robots able to mass produce themselves, aliens invading earth, and so on?
I agree that in a shared universe, you can't break away from things like the cosmic universe or the supernatural elements.
Asteroid M was only present for a few issues of the original 60s X-Men run before being introduced again in the 90s as Avalon. Frankly, more egregious was Magneto's island base in the early 80s based on Lovecraft. The Savage Land is something that could be retconned in the movies to have a connection to mutants especially with the Savage Land Mutates and Sauron could easily be reinterpreted.
I found Logan overrated although I did like it. Personally my favorite movie out of his three was the second one, The Wolverine.
