Re: The Little Mermaid (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:32 pm
Well, to give my thoughts about the poster, I find it generic and meh. I like the backgrounds, but the rest of it is underwhelming.
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Maybe they thought it was too late for that, since they already gave us our first look at Ariel and part of her kingdom in the teaser. Speaking of that, isn't it a bit strange they released the teaser poster now and not at the same time as the teaser trailer, for example?Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:44 pm To be honest, I would have preferred they used Ursula's necklace for the very first teaser poster to match the posters of the other remakes where an iconic object from their films was highlighted (slipper for Cinderella, the rose for Beauty and the Beast, the lamp for Aladdin etc.)
Hmm. Interesting.Sotiris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am Ariel will have a singing part in "Under the Sea".
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It'll still make a billion. 6 million people are only a fraction of 8 billion people around the world.Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:09 pmJust had a stray thought about how this movie's still a whole year away, and couldn't help thinking that the dislikes will probably be up to 5 or 6 million by then.
I'm... speechlessSotiris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:02 am Is it? Because Ariel is getting superpowers too. All the sisters will have a different set of powers. We don't know what Ariel's is yet. We know it's not a magical voice because her sister Mala has that power. It could be something lame like "love" or something.
I assume it will be a contrapoint to Sebastian's words, kinda like they did for The Little Mermaid Live. Kinda takes out the showstopping quality and makes it seem like she's whining, but what do I knowSotiris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am Ariel will have a singing part in "Under the Sea".
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Somehow I'm expecting it to be at the part with, "The blackfish, she sings"...perhaps she sings with the blackfish so that moment isn't "racist" (never mind a Black person is singing "Under the Sea" and is one of the three major characters in TLM that made it the success it was along with Ariel and Ursula). I guess it could be cute in a way and at least I can understand why that's somewhat racist unlike other things I've heard thrown at the film over the years (like Ursula being "racist" ), at least it would be something small. Sort of the same way I don't blame them making a Queen in charge of the land kingdom. It shows an example of female power that's good, so the only powerful female character (Ursula) doesn't typify female power in general as bad. Plus, it sort of ties into POYW when Ariel's dreaming that the world on land don't reprimand their daughters and that there are bright, young women compared to her father's world.Sotiris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am Ariel will have a singing part in "Under the Sea".
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Oh, wow, I forgot about that! I guess I hadn't listened to "Under the Sea" from the live show since it aired even though I have the soundtrack because I didn't think Shaggy was good as Sebastian in the show itself. If this change is to mimic the live show, I kind of hope this means they'll copy what they did with "Poor Unfortunate Souls" in the live show--as far as the lyrics that connected the first half of the song with the second into a continuous scene. I think that would be for the best here, this film isn't going to match the brilliance of the original film's dialogue and back-and-forth between Ursula and Ariel, so best just to tie the scene into one uninterrupted song.rodrigo_ca wrote:I assume it will be a contrapoint to Sebastian's words, kinda like they did for The Little Mermaid Live. Kinda takes out the showstopping quality and makes it seem like she's whining, but what do I know
All 8 billion aren't going to see this movie. Those 6 million are likely among the people who would most likely have seen / will see this movie, since I doubt they'd have watched the trailer online or at home on their own time if they had no interest. Looking for a trailer and watching it isn't really the same as people sitting in a theater or watching TV who simply see an ad without having sought it out. I think it'll be successful, but I'd be surprised if it made a billion at this point.D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:10 pm It'll still make a billion. 6 million people are only a fraction of 8 billion people around the world.
Lightyear's teaser trailer has 14,5 million views and The Little Mermaid has almost 25 already, so I think there's at least more interest in the latter.
Yes, the opposite probably also happens. I imagine that, especially after the backlash and the dislikes, many fans of Halle Bailey or the film have also rallied to show their support.Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:05 am I have no doubt there are some review bombings by racists as far as the dislikes, of course. But I imagine the opposite is also true with the Likes, there probably are people who think it's awful who'll pretend the movie isn't trash simply because the lead is Black and they want to support diversity itself regardless of the film's quality or lack thereof, which at least I can understand as a goal.
I think the original brands/franchises of the films the remakes are based on will by far outlive any of these remakes. Disney has seemed to make it abundantly clear that these films are meant to be flash-in-the-pan flashy make-overs to make a quick buck. I think that's clearest in merchandising, like you said, in that we keep seeing releases based on the original property but really nothing of the remakes past their year of release.Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 pm Thankfully the TLM brand is strong enough to withstand this movie being godawful with all its changes, Mulan wasn't so lucky, I believe the original character's potential was dampened by that horrid remake. If you compare the years before and after as far as Mulan (the characters)'s numbers in merchandise at the Disney Store, it's easy to see how horrible that film was and how much audiences detested it affected the original property--hopefully not long-term. I guess it cuts both ways, these remakes are easy ways to revitalize properties that are lagging when they're good (Aladdin), but they can damage them when they're terrible (Mulan). But I still think TLM is a much stronger brand than Mulan that it can withstand this film being a POS.
I think your thoughts on that element of the film are really smart and clever.Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 pmSort of the same way I don't blame them making a Queen in charge of the land kingdom. It shows an example of female power that's good, so the only powerful female character (Ursula) doesn't typify female power in general as bad. Plus, it sort of ties into POYW when Ariel's dreaming that the world on land don't reprimand their daughters and that there are bright, young women compared to her father's world.
It’s said that Disney were blown away by the positive response and have already had talks with Halle about the possibility of signing on for a sequel before the first reboot has even hit screens.
‘The response to the trailer alone gave Disney a positive indication that it had made the right choice,’ a source told Metro.co.uk.
‘It was the viral trend of little Black girls responding to Halle in particular that gave them no choice but to invite her back for a sequel. Internal projections for its opening weekend skyrocketed so Disney would like her to star in a range of sequels and derivative work.’
The insider, who is close to both Halle and Disney, continued: ‘It’s almost impossible to tell how well a movie will do in today’s market because it’s so fragmented. The positive response Halle earned online told Disney all it needed to know.’