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It has incited protests and lawsuits, inflamed public debate and inspired other cities to develop anti-soda tactics of their own. Dozens showed up at a Board of Health meeting in July to request changes to the proposal.

But for all the hand-wringing, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s much-derided ban on the sale of large sugary drinks, unveiled in May, will go into effect on Tuesday exactly as the city proposed.

The city argues that the measure, which forbids the sale of sugary drinks larger than 16 ounces in restaurants, movie theaters and other food-service establishments, will help combat the spread of obesity. But giant cups of soda are not the only beverages on the hit list. Here is a Q. and A. on the ban:

Q. How will it work?
A. At its most basic — and there are plenty of complications — the new rules mean that food-service establishments in New York City will not be able to sell sodas and other sugary drinks in containers larger than 16 ounces. Customers may buy as many refills as they want.

Q. What’s the definition of a sugary drink?
A. The city defines it as a nonalcoholic beverage that is less than 50 percent milk and has been presweetened by the manufacturer or the vendor with sugar or another caloric sweetener, like high fructose corn syrup, honey or agave nectar. To qualify, the beverage must cross a certain caloric threshold: 25 calories per 8 ounces.

Q. What about beer growlers?
A. Alcoholic beverages are safe, no matter the size. But that does not mean alcohol drinkers will be completely unaffected: because nightclubs are subject to the regulations, those who can afford bottle service will find that the carafes of sweet mixers like tonic and cranberry juice can no longer be served alongside the Grey Goose.

Q. Is it permanent?
A. That remains to be seen. The beverage industry has filed a lawsuit over the legality of the mayor’s ban, but the court has not yet ruled. And with a new mayor replacing Mr. Bloomberg in January, the ban’s future is even more uncertain.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/ ... -soda-ban/

You can read more of the details via the above link.

This is feel-good legislation at its worst. Those who choose to overindulge on soda will continue to do so, and it's none of the mayor's beeswax in the first place.

We're having an obesity epidemic for a reason, and type 2 diabetes is no longer even referred to as "adult onset" because it's now the norm for young children to be diagnosed. I agree that something has to be done, but creating laws like this is just idiotic. Aside from being ridiculous in the first place, what's to stop someone from buying two 16 oz. drinks for themselves (or going back to get refills) when they can no longer buy the 32 oz. containers?

What the government actually needs to focus on is awareness, tools, and education. For example, how many people are aware of what the recommended daily amount of sugar is for them, and that just one 12 oz. can of Coke already exceeds it by 3 to 19 grams (and by 26 grams for children)? And those facing obesity issues are often ignored, discriminated against, and left untreated.

More than half of all adult Americans are overweight, nearly one quarter are obese. And the rates of obesity have more than doubled with children since 1980. The only good thing to possibly come from this BS is raising public awareness; processed foods in general have become a nightmare in the US and various forms of added sugar are found in nearly everything. Pointing the finger at soda alone is not going to solve anything, and neither is forcing portion control on existing products.

From what I've heard, a judge has since overturned it.

Yeah, this is a dumb law in my opinion. I realize sugary drinks are not good for people's health, this isn't the way to go about it. I mean now you can't find 2 liters of Soda? People sometimes stretch a 2 liter to last a week or so, but now they have to buy 15 oz bottles which overall is more expensive and hurts the average person in their pocketbook.

I guess someone could by one of their as seen on TV soda makers and make their own 20 oz sodas. I guess that would be moonshine soda

I don't drink soda so this is so a non-issue for me. But if people wanna get fat, let 'em. Problem is we ALL pay for it in obesity related health issue costs.

carolinakid wrote:I don't drink soda so this is so a non-issue for me. But if people wanna get fat, let 'em. Problem is we ALL pay for it in obesity related health issue costs.

It's not just soda though, it's all sugary drinks. Though lately I've been staying away from Soda and I had some the other day and it tasted horrible, compare to the Tea and Lemonade I've been drinking.

So Finally I think I'm done with soda. I only drink it for special occasions though, and usually it's root beer.

Also this is some new news about the soda ban

b]Judge strikes down NYC ban on supersized sodas[/b]
A judge struck down New York City's pioneering ban on big sugary drinks Monday just hours before it was supposed to take effect, handing a defeat to health-minded Mayor Michael Bloomberg and creating uncertainty for restaurants that had already ordered smaller cups and changed their menus.

State Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling said the 16-ounce limit on sodas and other sweet drinks arbitrarily applies to only some sugary beverages and some places that sell them.

"The loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the stated purpose of this rule," Tingling wrote in a 36-page ruling that examined the scope of power that should be afforded an administrative board for regulations. The ruling was seen as a victory for the beverage industry, restaurants and other business groups that called the rule unfair and wrong-headed.

In addition, the judge said the Bloomberg-appointed Board of Health intruded on the City Council's authority when it imposed the rule, citing in part a case from the 1980s which questioned whether a state public health council had the authority to regulate smoking in public places.

The city vowed to appeal the decision, issued by New York state's trial-level court.

"We believe the judge is totally in error in how he interpreted the law, and we are confident we will win on appeal," Bloomberg said, adding that the city would emphasize to higher courts "that people are dying every day. This is not a joke."

For now, though, the ruling means the ax won't fall Tuesday on supersized sodas, sweetened teas and other high-sugar beverages in restaurants, movie theaters, corner delis and sports arenas.

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~... Drinks a can of Sprite for trolling purposes.~

In all seriousness, they could have been facing other issues that need facing. I facepalm myself at this foolishness.

Cripes knows: Drugs are not as severe as Soda.

Kraken Guard wrote:
Cripes knows: Drugs are not as severe as Soda.

There's Caffeine unless someone is now using the original ingredient inf Coke now

disneyboy20022 wrote:

Kraken Guard wrote:
Cripes knows: Drugs are not as severe as Soda.

There's Caffeine unless someone is now using the original ingredient inf Coke now

Pffft! XD

Yeah, but caffeine is used in Coffee as well, isn't it? I mean, it's like their starting to view Soda as a taboo, now(maybe not as severe, but it's... Ridiculous). I mean, we eat and drink different things all the time. Yeah, Soda might not be the healthiest thing for a person to drink, but what they're doing is pretty ridiculous and idiotic, in my opinion.

What next? Are they going to ban such things, like candy?