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Is anyone going to listen to the shareholder meeting tomorrow? I would like to, but I don't know the URL to the webcast. Does anyone know what it is? If so, please post it, and the time that the meeting starts?

I will be listening to this live tomorrow!! DOWN WITH EISNER!!!!!

Thanks guys! I'll have to listen to this.

Im listening and ei$ner just announced Bambi platinum for march 2005
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plus the bambi sequel pemiering on dvd UGH.... Eisner just goes on and on about franchises and brand and money and money... this guy is so clueless

I dont think he is clueless, in fact he is very smart.

The problem is he has been using his smarts for all the wrong purposes for near a decade now.

They had an awful lot of facts addressing ABC's recent good performance. I wish I could see what's going on, instead of just hearing it.

^ It's extremely aggravating to listen to!

I was dissapointed by the lack of shareholder representatives in support of Roy's direction coming forth during the talkback session in regards to management and directorial status. Every single person that raised perspectives seemed like a complete meathead with absolutely no insight towards the issues at hand.

The remaining 99% of the meeting revolved around the launch and promotion of lame dtv project sequels and obvious franchise exploitation releases, empty-headed superficial preteen sitcom programming and foreign theme park promotion and relations.

In other words, absolutely nothing relevant at all to the significant questions raised in opposition of the current directorial management and future prospects of the company.

In relation to home video and TV market finances, they brought up concepts for a proposed CGI Mickey Mouse preschool-aimed series, a promise to fully-abuse the creative accomplishments of their recent successful partnership with Pixar in regards to the Toy Story franchise, a bunch of unoriginal DTV home video releases and loads of other shallow uninspired ideas. Not a single creative value-redeeming concept.

Eisner did a great job of neglecting and overlooking all affairs by cleverly manipulating and lapsing all his responses... "In the past 4 years we have opened numerous theme parks in Hong Kong, bla bla bla..." but still never confronted the fact that domestic parks are regressing in terms of quality and productivity, etc. Also praising recent successful assets by associating Pixars achievements with Disney's promise yet neglecting the fact that they've totally disjointed future contracts due to his own lack of managerial aptitude and respect in regards to the prosperous company who now stands to be their most aggressive studio rival in the company's film history. This was the general flow of discussion onwards. Total bs.

He even went so far as to try and attribute the critics views in relation to Disney's primary financial relapse, on the influence of events surrounding 9/11!! Yeah... that's the reason why Brother Bear and Home On The Range were complete flops...

The entire speech was ignorant inadvertent mindless babble. Completely embarrasing to listen to.

Well it is completely unfair to call Home on the Range a complete bust as it hasnt been released yet.

I also dont think Brother Bear was a complete bust. Didnt set the world on fire, but wasnt a bust either.

JimmyJackJunior wrote:Well it is completely unfair to call Home on the Range a complete bust as it hasnt been released yet.

I also dont think Brother Bear was a complete bust. Didnt set the world on fire, but wasnt a bust either.

The fact is, Brother Bear didn't change anything! It was no big flop, it was no big success.

Joe Carioca wrote:

JimmyJackJunior wrote:Well it is completely unfair to call Home on the Range a complete bust as it hasnt been released yet.

I also dont think Brother Bear was a complete bust. Didnt set the world on fire, but wasnt a bust either.

The fact is, Brother Bear didn't change anything! It was no big flop, it was no big success.

Yes, in the USA! Here in Belgium it's currently the best viewed theatres movie! It even topped "The Last Samurai" and "LOTR: Return of the King"!

Im not necessarily referring to the film itself but the overall direction, promotion, etc. The fact that it beared no significant profits or impact at all really, good or bad, is saying enough already. That's acceptable and standard by the Disney of today but the fact remains that in context it is a "flop" to what Disney has established in terms of it's classic feature animation product. More middle of the line generic standards that the company is continually brandishing as their new convention. Its weak.

STASHONE wrote:Also praising recent successful assets by associating Pixars achievements with Disney's promise yet neglecting the fact that they've totally disjointed future contracts due to his own lack of managerial aptitude and respect in regards to the prosperous company who now stands to be their most aggressive studio rival in the company's film history.

And how would conceeding to Pixars demands, including altering the existing contract between Disney and Pixar so Pixar got full copyright on the characters from the Incredibles and Cars, plus a much higher percentage share of any profits stop Pixar from being even more proserous and even more of a rivel when Pixar did leave Disney?

Pixar were going to leave Disney. It's as plain as the writing on the wall. You only have to read their reported re-negotiation demands to see that they were thinking of life without Disney. And they don't seem to mind splitting from Disney now.

Its better for Disney have Pixar leave now and 'X' years down the road when they have their full character copyrights on their characters and even more money from Disney. I still think breaking up with Pixar is the best thing Eisner as ever done. Roy wants Pixar back? Perhaps he can explain how is having Pixar movies is going to help Walt Disney Feature Animation? Because he hasn't given a reason yet for wanting Pixar back.

But now the dunderheaded Eisner is making the same sort of deals with Core, Vangard and Shadedbox, meaning these could become Disney rivals in the future funded by Disney money. Now, that's a lack of managerial aptitude - not learning from past mistakes. Surely if the Pixar thing has shown Disney and Eisner one thing, its that its best to have all creations in-house.

STASHONE - It is too early to say what the profit on Brother Bear will be.

Dont forget that Treasure Planet totally tanked in its run in theatres, and then did fairly well on home theatre. Granted, this was probably due to a totally different marketing campaign. If the video campaign had looked more like the theatre trailers the movie may well have done better.

As for the campaign behind Brother Bear, I thought it wasnt bad.

However, Eisner does have lots to answer for.

STASHONE you said that Eisner talked about

a bunch of unoriginal DTV home video releases and loads of other shallow uninspired ideas. Not a single creative value-redeeming concept.

Could you elaborate please, for those of us who didn't get to hear? I'm especially interested in the new 3D movies, while not a fan, I still want to know what's coming out. Also, could you tell us about what DTVs are coming?

Jens wrote:

Joe Carioca wrote: The fact is, Brother Bear didn't change anything! It was no big flop, it was no big success.

Yes, in the USA! Here in Belgium it's currently the best viewed theatres movie! It even topped "The Last Samurai" and "LOTR: Return of the King"!

It was a big hit here in Brazil as well. In the opening weekend, it was number 1 and topped a certain movie staring two of our "biggest" teen pop stars...

Joe Carioca wrote:It was a big hit here in Brazil as well. In the opening weekend, it was number 1 and topped a certain movie staring two of our "biggest" teen pop stars...

Well, then you shouldn't go calling it not a big flop and not a big success eh?<-- pronounce as Rutt and Tuke do Actually, all Disney movies are always a big succes here, we don't see Disney the negative way as *most* americans see it

43% Voted NO on Eisner. The rest of the board got 20% NO votes.

Just curious, did you have to be a shareholder to listen, because my family doesn't have shares, but I wanted to listen anyway. I know it's over now, but for future I was wondering, if anyone knows.

Hopefully this will bring very needed change.

Yes, Eisner did good during his first decade, no one will disagree with that even Roy Disney, but where is Disney headed? No pixar, no animated movies, just a long stream of POTC, Huanted Mansion, Space mountain, Rocket Rods, the Teacups the movie???

The last really good disney animated movie was Emporers new groove (stitch was ok). But if the future is Treasure Planet and Atlantis type movies, my children will no disney from dvd and not the theater.

I was sad that disney was a thing of the past, but with this vote i got a spark of hope.