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This is something I've pondered recently. It may be simple, but I think it's interesting to consider. We all know how shoddy Disney animation of the 70's - 90's could be. Especially how off model characters could appear. What if these films were animated today? Still in 2D, same character designs, etc. With how much improvement we've seen in hand drawn animation, would you want to see them animated today? And if so, would you still feel the same about them? Or do the flaws only add to their character? Personally, I'd love to see Beauty and the Beast and Little Mermaid animated today. The characters are rarely on model, and at times, it can look rather bad. Thoughts?

Don't you dare reanimate Beauty and the Beast.

And then, the beautiful enchantress came along and placed a powerful spell upon all who tried to turn the thread into a Beauty and the Beast colours/reanimation fistfight, removing them of their ability to read and write.

Well, I wish all the films were animated with the same quality of precision and perfection. Some films, not just the ones of today but all over Disney history, have qualities in their animation that are not seen in other films' animation, when they probably should be in all films' animation.

There are a few things done today that are better than what they did before. But then again, there were also many things done back then that aren't as good as what's done today. The perfect coloring and kinds of shadows done on computers today are swell, but the lush shadows and details that could only be done with paint and cels in Walt's day (though mainly done only in his earliest features) are magnificent. And then of course they were so on-model in Walt's day and made characters look so realistic.

If anything, I would like to see most of the grain gone (not necessarily from BATB). Off-model animation can be a little distracting but not to an extent where I would want it reanimated.

If you mentioned BATB, I can see where it's off-model but really there are only 2-3 instances where it's really annoying and it's both beast and Belle when he lets her go and Belle when she confronts the villagers in the end.

Still, I am much more moved today when I watch the laserdisc than when I watch the blu-ray. Disney films for me are nostalgia and the original version just floods me with warmth and memories that will never happen with the Blu-ray (which I find mostly awesome).

So, no. Wouldn't want to see it reanimated.

Wait, is the question about if we would want people to actually, in reality, re-animate the films...

Or is it about a "what if" or wish being granted that the films would magically be animated perfectly, so the same scenes, movements, and motions we love would be there...just perfected?

Disney Duster wrote:Wait, is the question about if we would want people to actually, in reality, re-animate the films...

Or is it about a "what if" or wish being granted that the films would magically be animated perfectly, so the same scenes, movements, and motions we love would be there...just perfected?

The latter. I guess what I'm asking is, if you could see it re-done perfectly with today's traditional animation standards, would you either enjoy it or find it's lost its charm? I just think some things are not done well and could be better.

The Little Mermaid would have really benefited from being made a year or two later, I always thought. I love that movie, I just always felt that visually it could have been the prettiest movie Disney ever made had it used the techniques (and budget) used in The Rescuers Down Under and Beauty and The Beast.

I have to agree with Disney Duster's point about the excellence in detail in the early Disney films, especially Pinocchio and Bambi. That being said, I thought the quality of some of the animation in Tangled was incredible, especially the lantern scene. Overall, I don't mind the flaws in Disney animation as I usually enjoy the films enough not to notice them.

[quote="nomad2010"]This is something I've pondered recently. It may be simple, but I think it's interesting to consider. We all know how shoddy Disney animation of the 70's - 90's could be. Especially how off model characters could appear. What if these films were animated today? Still in 2D, same character designs, etc. With how much improvement we've seen in hand drawn animation, would you want to see them animated today? And if so, would you still feel the same about them? Or do the flaws only add to their character? Personally, I'd love to see Beauty and the Beast and Little Mermaid animated today. The characters are rarely on model, and at times, it can look rather bad. Thoughts?[/quote]

Are you talking about reanimating Disney Classic the same style Pixar does their movies?

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Other than Walt's classics (like Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty), I think Disney's best 2D animation was featured in Aladdin, The Lion King, The Hunback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Mulan, and Tarzan. Atlantis' animation was gorgeous, too. It's true The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast are rough around the edges, but they're also two of their best told stories and I admire the nostalgic value. I thought Princess and the Frog, while at times stunning, also exhibited some really poor renderings and lackluster character design... so just because a film is made today doesn't gaurantee it'll look better (as I think a lot of the 90's films were given much greater attention-to-detail).

megustajake wrote:Other than Walt's classics (like Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty), I think Disney's best 2D animation was featured in Aladdin, The Lion King, The Hunback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Mulan, and Tarzan. Atlantis' animation was gorgeous, too. It's true The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast are rough around the edges, but they're also two of their best told stories and I admire the nostalgic value.

Although the animation in Aladdin is more polished than that in Mermaid and Beauty, I don't find it as good as those two. Don't get me wrong, I adore Aladdin and the animation is superb, but I love the style in Mermaid and Beauty better, it's just more elegant and less garish.

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megustajake wrote:Other than Walt's classics (like Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty), I think Disney's best 2D animation was featured in Aladdin, [...]

Actually, the main character looked very off-model a lot of the time. He kept changing back and forth between the boy-ish version and the adult version.

Anyway, I wouldn't want any Disney animated film to be re-animated, because they wouldn't be the movies I love anymore.

I'm happy that such problems as off model character design can now be avoided, but I honestly wouldn't change the classics a single bit. They are products of their times.

I guess if you want an idea how it would look, look at the direct to video films. Gives you an idea about the look anyway.

I think I'd rather they do this to "Star Trek: The Animated Series!" That would be cool! But don't re-animated the Disney cannon. Each film's flaws is part of their charm.