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Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:01 pm**

Anon#1: Duncan Marjoribanks and Mike Srurey have left the studio and also Andreas Deja has taken a leave of absence although most people seem to think he's going to return eventually.

Anon#2: For what it's worth Mr. Deja no longer lists Disney as his employer:

http://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... izing.html

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:25 pm**

From Andreas Deja's blog profile:

Andreas Deja wrote:I spent 30 years at Disney. Right now I am focusing on my own animated short films, sculpting with wire and this Blog. I might be back at Disney some time.....who knows.

Source: http://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229

Posted: **Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:16 am**

Well, John Lasseter claims another victim

(just joking).

Posted: **Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:38 pm**

What happens to the studio!
First Glen Keane and now Anders leaves ... I do not believe ):
That's it, Without these two people the studio was finished,
Can not Lothoochach it

"If you take the drawing out of Disney, it just isn't Disney"

Posted: **Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:52 pm**

Don't be overly melodramatic Refael. The studio is not finished. I can understand it feels hard to see these people go because they were the face of WDAS these last 25 to 30 years. But there is plenty of young talent.

In fact, I ask ... shouldn't WDAS be developing its new Andreas Dejas and Glen Keanes and Mark Henns at this point? These people are considered the new generation of animators that continued the Disney tradition of animated features in the 1980s, but in truth they aren't young and new anymore. They will soon reach the same age attained by the Nine Old Men when some of those started retiring.

Posted: **Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:20 pm**

This is far from the first important people left the studio. Many did back in walt's day, and one returned decades later in the 90s.

Will Finn left a few years ago. He returned too, but not before moving up the ladder a step at Dreamworks.

Sanders and Deblois, although different from other employees, left the studio and havent returned.

Posted: **Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:09 pm**

This is sad, but I think deep down inside we knew it had to happen one day. The nine old men and other classic Disney Animators from Walt's era one by one left or retired, now it is time for the 1980's group to do the same, and they have been. Lassiter is there however running things, let's hope some new talent is discovered and nurtured and we have a third generation of awesome Disney animators.

I won't lie, I have my worries, but I'm hopeful the next great group is just about ready to take the spot light.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:22 pm**

Refael wrote:That's it, Without these two people the studio was finished,

Disney survived the death of it's founder nearly half a century ago so I think they'll survive this.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:38 pm**

It's rather sad that...they kind of only produced about 4 or 5 films that are considered really great classics...while Disney's Nine Old Men produced a lot more... But if I was Andreas Deja or Glen Keane, I'd leave the studio as well because of how they are changing and getting all un-Disney!

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:50 pm**

Welcome back Disney Duster. For me, Andreas Deja is one of very few animators whose work comes close to the quality of the work done by the most talented of the Nine Old Men, Ward Kimball and Frank Thomas. It's sad that he's gone but hopefully he will return and as Julian Carter and ajmrowland said, a new generation of brilliant animators will start to emerge.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:04 pm**

DisneyAnimation88 wrote:...a new generation of brilliant animators will start to emerge.

Perhaps. But they'll be CGI animators and not hand-drawn animators. Disney will not be willing to train hand-drawn animators since they consider 2D animation a dying and unprofitable medium.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:11 pm**

Perhaps, only time will tell. But until the day that Disney says that that is the case and they will no longer produce any hand-drawn content, I would rather believe that the medium has a future at the company.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:13 pm**

DisneyAnimation88 wrote:But until the day that Disney says that that is the case and they will no longer produce any hand-drawn content, I would rather believe that the medium has a future at the company.

If they do, I don't think they'll announce it. They will just stop producing it.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:17 pm**

Like all things, we will have to wait and see. John Lasseter and Ed Catmull are on record saying that hand-drawn animation at the Studio will definitely continue so I'm just going to take their word at the minute, mostly because I would like to believe that the medium isn't simply going to be abandoned.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:44 pm**

Sotiris wrote:
DisneyAnimation88 wrote:...a new generation of brilliant animators will start to emerge.
Perhaps. But they'll be CGI animators and not hand-drawn animators. Disney will not be willing to train hand-drawn animators since they consider 2D animation a dying and unprofitable medium.

That's not set in stone. There are a lot of animators who still train in 2D.

Posted: **Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:45 pm**

Sotiris wrote: Perhaps. But they'll be CGI animators and not hand-drawn animators. Disney will not be willing to train hand-drawn animators since they consider 2D animation a dying and unprofitable medium.

What?! Says who?! Lest we forget, John Lasseter WANTS to bring back 2D films!

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:54 am**

So, if Andreas is still away, that probably means that are no hand-drawn features in the pipeline yet.

Q: What are you doing now?

Andreas Deja: We had just started on Winnie the Pooh and we had a meeting with management and it was announced that the Snow Queen would be cancelled which was supposed to be our next 2D film and that the director Chris Buck actually would jump over to a new project which would be CG.

I thought "OK, I can see where this is going" and that there wouldn't be any 2D for a long time. I saw that coming. So, I went in and I said you know if we have so much downtime coming up after Pooh, I’d rather not do downtime, I’d rather do something. And I have these ideas in my head for personal films, so why don’t I leave after I finish Pooh and then when and if you have something, I’d be happy to come back. And that’s the way it stands right now.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... rt-ii.html

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:21 am**

Yay

Joking. You know if they didn't cut those extremely profitable 2D sequels, then 2D wouldn't be perceived as unprofitable as it is. and based on Cinderella 3 and Ariel's Beginning, they were certainly improving on quality. Thanks Lasetter

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:32 am**

Ugh. Thanks a lot, Disney!

Talk about screwing us over. AGAIN!!! Really, Disney, if you're gonna promise something, go through on it! If you can't do that, DON'T promise anything!!!

Let's face it; they don't care anything about 2D animation. All they care about is making money, and it's all Michael 'Scrooge' Eisner's fault! If he hadn't gone and come up with the DTV sequels, then 2D animation wouldn't be dying and Disney wouldn't have become cheapskates! But NOOO!!!!! He just HAD to run the company into the ground! It's his fault the company is in ruins and I hope that he gets a fatal disease or something!

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:47 pm**

^ Somebody's been hanging around with Vincent Gallo.

You're acting as traditional animation has stopped happening at Disney. It hasn't. They still distribute Studio Ghibli's work and produce series like Phineas and Ferb. But, let's face it. Film is a business and computer animation is a lot more profitable at the moment. But, let's just see how Pooh does. It might just surprise us.

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