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Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

XXX!

lol oh my

i know i know. i couldn't help ignore this one. Too funny to pass. leaving now for good lol

Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

Really? Oh, but you're TOO kind, I'm shurr!

Thank you in advance for your replies.

Jackoleen wrote:Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

Really? Oh, but you're TOO kind, I'm shurr!

Well, I hate to sound like a member of the angry mob, but professing the sexiness of a cartoon mouse in a circus outfit will inevitably strike people as weird and somewhat unsettling. Lusting after an animated prince or princess character is one thing, but a character who is very visibly an animal comes across as unnatural to a great deal of people.

And I think that Jiminy finding the Blue Fairy attractive was just an innocent gag typical in American cinema at the time (similar to Bashful fancying Snow White; he basically thinks Snow White is very pretty and isn't in love with her à la Prince Charming). He was basically just roped into being Pinocchio's conscience after losing his rag over Pinocchio's ridiculous naivety, not because of hot boss or fancy attire (after all, he didn't know that he would get a new suit when he agreed to getting the job).

And as for the question at hand; any character who is too moralising annoys me and my inner anarchist. And no sexiness is brought into any equation with Disney animation as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think it's a big deal that Jiminy Cricket was obviously attracted to the Blue Fairy and all the other "plastic" women.

It's not like he was committing blatant sexual harassment.

Wonderlicious wrote:Well, I hate to sound like a member of the angry mob, but professing the sexiness of a cartoon mouse in a circus outfit will inevitably strike people as weird and somewhat unsettling. Lusting after an animated prince or princess character is one thing, but a character who is very visibly an animal comes across as unnatural to a great deal of people.

Unless you're a kid, of course. Who hasn't had a crush on a cartoon character as a child? (I've been to other forums, so I know I'm not the only one!) When I was little, I had a crush on Gadget from Chip 'N Dale Rescue Rangers.

Jiminy's inner demon is so underplayed that it's virtually unnoticeable.

That said, I never considered he or Timothy to be annoyingly moralistic. They were more than essential to guiding their clients in a world that was prepared to eat them alive. In fact, Jiminy had always been one of my top favorite Disney characters for the very reason that a savvy person could also be such a likable one.

PS - Let's save our cartoon crushes for another day.

I've always had a crush on Baloo.
But then, I've always been into the "bear type".

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't even troll this right.

NO. NO. NO. and NO.

Timothy Mouse is not sexy. Jiminy Cricket is not sexy.

Nora...nope.

skippy wrote:I've always had a crush on Baloo.
But then, I've always been into the "bear type".

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't even troll this right.

NO. NO. NO. and NO.

Timothy Mouse is not sexy. Jiminy Cricket is not sexy.

Nora...nope.

I think this is what you were saying although I'll let the Nostalgia Critic say it best for 44 seconds

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To each his own, as I think a variety of characters could be considered "sexy." But I fail to see how Jiminy Cricket or Timothy Q. Mouse could be considered . . . um, sexy in any form. Some of these posts just get weirder and weirder . . .

enigmawing wrote:To each his own, as I think a variety of characters could be considered "sexy." But I fail to see how Jiminy Cricket or Timothy Q. Mouse could be considered . . . um, sexy in any form. Some of these posts just get weirder and weirder . . .

to the tune of the Hokey Pokey

Some of these posts just get weirder and weirder and that's what UD's all about.

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Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

XXX!

I didn't think anyone else thought Timothy Mouse was sexy

Jackoleen wrote:That being said, I can't believe that the sex appeal of both Jiminy Cricket and Timothy Mouse is still so unacknowledged. I mean, Jiminy Cricket had a mojo that could've set off every clock in Gepetto's shop, and Timothy Mouse was a confident, sexy mouse with a seductive, streetwise accent. I really don't understand how anybody could fail to understand those facts.

Because most of us are human and are generally turned on by other humans. I really don't understand that you don't understand that we're VERY creeped out by you. It's quite scary actually.

PatrickvD wrote:

Jackoleen wrote:That being said, I can't believe that the sex appeal of both Jiminy Cricket and Timothy Mouse is still so unacknowledged. I mean, Jiminy Cricket had a mojo that could've set off every clock in Gepetto's shop, and Timothy Mouse was a confident, sexy mouse with a seductive, streetwise accent. I really don't understand how anybody could fail to understand those facts.

Because most of us are human and are generally turned on by other humans. I really don't understand that you don't understand that we're VERY creeped out by you. It's quite scary actually.

I'm more creeped out by Jackoleen's taste in what is sexually attractive to her than Jackoleen herself....but to each their own....

Jackoleen wrote:I personally think that Jiminy Cricket is almost a religious-type figure, because he's FAR from being a morally pure guy at the beginning of the movie; with his lecherous, playboy attitude, he's more likely to be seducing every clock in Gepetto's shop than teaching Pinocchio how NOT to be like him, and he must be urged to reform himself, albeit via his attraction to both the sex appeal of The Blue Fairy and to the promise of shirt bling!

That is actually, deeply hilarious. I believe he's just kidding around about his playboy side (he knows the clocks aren't real). But I've also never liked him in the movie either. The opening 20 or so minutes of Pinocchio are freakishly sexual (this continues past the Geppetto's shop scenes and into the Honest John and Gideon sequence as well) and there are literally about 2 dozen butt references at least. It's quite shocking, as a matter of fact. As for any religious aspect, the movie itself wallows in the depths of the wrongdoings of characters, so at least it's not as insultingly mind-numbing as something like Full House. At least they know enough to make being bad and its' consequences into a somewhat gut-wrenching horror. Is it preachy? Sure; it's still Disney after all. But if it's scary instead of overly literal, I think it works.

As far as Nora and Pollyanna are concerned... they had their own personal things they were going through. Serious issues. At least, in a Disney context. I wouldn't compare that to other people who have tained the use of morality in film, etc(.), with their holier than thou attitudes. Most of the Disney character moralists who come to mind are fairly sensitive and compassionate people- if they can be viewed as realistic.

Jackoleen wrote:Timothy Mouse is, in my opinion, super sexy, because he is both moral AND enticing at the same time! He is the opposite of a lecherous player, but his accent, his confidence, and the things that he says, etc., make him totally sexy!

That's a strange way to follow up an almost-criticism of the Jiminy character. I see you've said you found the voices sexy and so, I won't get in line with the other semi-inappropriate (not to mention: unoriginal) responses criticising you for finding cartoons sexy. The world is full of... "interesting" sexual tastes- if Jessica Rabbit is any indication. I said years ago that I don't think cartoons are sexy. Though a beautiful cartoon woman or man can be aesthetically attractive. If animators didn't want to turn on children, they shouldn't draw their characters so alluringly.

Wonderlicious wrote:And I think that Jiminy finding the Blue Fairy attractive was just an innocent gag typical in American cinema at the time (similar to Bashful fancying Snow White; he basically thinks Snow White is very pretty and isn't in love with her à la Prince Charming). He was basically just roped into being Pinocchio's conscience after losing his rag over Pinocchio's ridiculous naivety, not because of hot boss or fancy attire (after all, he didn't know that he would get a new suit when he agreed to getting the job).

Good point. Only, I think they really underplayed the Dwarfs' attraction to... anyone in that film. They really treated the old men as children just because they were short. I always put the blame on the Snow White character for being the mouthpiece of this highly wrong point-of-view, when it's the movie that deserves the criticism. I don't quite think Pinocchio is in that league. They came out and said a few things Snow White didn't have the guts to.

Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

XXX!