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Disney Buys the Muppets

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:07 pm
by englishboy
Basically the muppets and the Bear from the blue house will belong to Disney for an undisclosed sum. The Henson kids keep all the other assets--the henson creature factory, fraggile rock, the other Henson movies (Dark Crystal, etc.) and some minor properties.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:30 pm
by Son of the Morning
It was a consensual deal:
Lisa Henson said, "In the months before his death in 1990, my father Jim Henson pursued extensive discussions with The Walt Disney Company based on his strong belief that Disney would be a perfect home for the Muppets. As such, the deal we announced today is the realization of my father's dream, and ensures that the Muppet characters will live, flourish and continue to delight audiences everywhere, forever. My brothers and sisters -- Brian, Cheryl, John, Heather -- and I are so proud to have the Muppets living under the same roof as Walt Disney's own timeless characters. We could not possibly be more pleased."

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:31 pm
by indianajdp
For those with youngins', Bear in the Big Blue House is fantastic :up:
And believe me when I say that darn bear can shake his groove thang ....

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:33 pm
by Son of the Morning
I'm a HUGE Muppets fan, myself.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:55 pm
by Maerj
I like them there Muppets too, so this is a cool move I think. I don't watch that Bear in the House show as it seems to be for kids, but I saw the Bear on Hollywood Squares and he was pretty funny. Oh, and let Disney buy the rights to Farscape to and continue the series!

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:11 pm
by jabroni76
hey! that is fantastic news!
Yay for muppets and mini-yay for disney!

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:13 pm
by chrisrose
Not sure how I feel about this news... I somehow doubt Jim Henson would want to deal with the current Disney company.

So what does this mean in terms of the Muppet Show DVDs? Will Columbia Tristar continue to release the repackaged Time-Life DVDs? Or will Disney put their own compilations together?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:01 pm
by Luke
I'm glad about the potential for future Disney Muppets movies as I really enjoyed the two they did together. At the same time, I fear there will be more Fullscreen-only Muppets DVDs, if they've somehow purchased rights to the past movies. Or it could mean re-releases of all the Muppet movies, which could be good, and could mean widescreen editions of the two Disney-owned ones.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:26 am
by chrisrose
Disney now owns the Muppets TV properties too, right? Or is it just the Muppet movies?

I'm still concerned about how they might treat The Muppet Show...

Season Box Sets would be nice, but unlikely since Disney hasn't been good about releasing TV episodes in order (not in Region 1 anyway).

Well... guess I'm just talking to myself here, so I'll stop now. :P

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:05 am
by 2099net
No. The deal is not retrospective. The bulk of existing Muppet tv and film is owned by Columbia. This deal does not mean any past Muppet properties are going to change hands, nor any non Muppet Henson properties like Farscape or the film Loch Ness.

What's happened is Disney now "own" the Muppet characters for future productions and licencing rights.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:30 am
by chrisrose
Thanks for clearing that up :)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:49 am
by 2099net
I should add that, presumably, once the current licencing expires, the existing films and TV series will be owned by Disney.

If this is the case, after all Columbia may have heavily co-invested in the Muppet Movie (for example) and may have permement distribution rights as a result.

Either way, the UK has a Muppet Movie boxset coming out in a month or so from Columbia. This shouldn't change anything and the release should go ahead as normal.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:04 am
by PatrickvD
Im not so happy with this... Muppets are not Disney and this deal doesnt seem right.....especially not with the current Disney company... does this make Miss Piggy a Disney princess now? :D :P

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:05 am
by AwallaceUNC
I think it's awesome. I am a HUGE HUGE Muppets fan, I love them, and as a fan, can't think of a better home for them than Disney! Muppets 3-D fits in so well at WDW, and I always thought they would make a great addition to the Disney family (Muppet Treasure Island and Muppet Christmas Carol were already associated w/ Disney, right?). I'm glad Mr. Henson saw the same thing I do, that Disney and the muppets are a perfect post-Henson fit :).

I'm not sure how the Muppet/Sesame Street connection works out on paper, but does Disney have anything to do w/ Sesame Street now? I wouldn't be as happy about this.

-Aaron

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:11 am
by bean:therio
I have always found it a bit of a strange combination: The Muppets and Disney. I always thought of The Muppets as being something that is completely the opposite of Disney: a bit darker and a bit more provocative in their own kind of humour. I am not shure how the Muppet-franchise could be better off in the hands of Disney compared to being independent.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:54 am
by PatrickvD
awallaceunc wrote:I think it's awesome. I am a HUGE HUGE Muppets fan, I love them, and as a fan, can't think of a better home for them than Disney! Muppets 3-D fits in so well at WDW, and I always thought they would make a great addition to the Disney family (Muppet Treasure Island and Muppet Christmas Carol were already associated w/ Disney, right?). I'm glad Mr. Henson saw the same thing I do, that Disney and the muppets are a perfect post-Henson fit :).

I'm not sure how the Muppet/Sesame Street connection works out on paper, but does Disney have anything to do w/ Sesame Street now? I wouldn't be as happy about this.

-Aaron
I dont remember where exactly I read it, but by byuing the muppets Disney has nothing do to with Sesame street. Wich is a good thing I guess.... still getting used t the idea of the muppets being Disney now...

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:00 am
by Joe Carioca
Disney buying the Muppets is a response to Roy and Comcast. It seems they took adventage of the fact that Jim Henson is full of debts.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:16 pm
by meowthew
2099net wrote:No. The deal is not retrospective. The bulk of existing Muppet tv and film is owned by Columbia. This deal does not mean any past Muppet properties are going to change hands,
That's not true. Disney IS buying the rights to the entire library of past Mupppet films and TV shows, including "The Muppet Movie", "The Muppet Show", "Muppet Babies", etc, as stated in the company press release.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:12 pm
by 2099net
OK - they may be buying them, but they're going to have to wait for the current rights to expire. You can't just stop existing distribution contracts.

There can't be Henson debt problems

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:43 pm
by EarthX
Joe Carioca wrote:Disney buying the Muppets is a response to Roy and Comcast. It seems they took adventage of the fact that Jim Henson is full of debts.
2000: The Hensons sell Jim Henson Company to German EM TV for $680 million
2003: The Hensons buy back company from EM TV for $89 million.
( Sesame Street gang sold to Sesame Workshop for $106 million in 2001 )

No way did they blow $591 million in 3 years.

http://www.toughpigs.com/extrahensonsale02.htm