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Diamond Blu vs. Platinum DVD Covers .....
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:59 pm
by Atlantica
As we are now starting to get the repeats of Disney Classics on Blu that have previously been released on DVD, how about we do a compare between the Platinums and the Diamonds covers ? I just thought it would be interesting with the *ahem* not so pleasent comments Bambi on Blu is getting
Here it goes ....
Snow White :
Platinum
Diamond
Beauty and the Beast :
Platinum
Diamond
Bambi :
Platinum
Diamond
To be honest, compared to some of the older DVD / VHS releases, and theatrical posters, all of these seem a very poor effort for a company with so much creativity, money, and imagination behind it.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:14 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Of all the Platinums, Bambi had received one of the best covers in that line (along with The Lion King, imo; the worst being The Jungle Book and especially Lady and the Tramp). So, that might be why that cover is so particularly bad for me.
I don't think the Platinum line had the best covers they could have, but they were above and beyond all three of the Diamonds thus far. Which is strange, considering Diamonds are supposed to > Platinums.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:52 pm
by Disneykid
See, for me it's complicated. Here's how it goes for me.
Snow White:
Diamond BD in DVD case > Platinum > Diamond BD in BD case > Diamond DVD
Beauty and the Beast:
Diamond > Platinum
Bambi:
Diamond DVD > Platinum > Diamond BD
I do agree, though, that none of the Platinums or Diamonds have managed to improve upon their original VHS covers except Lion King, but that one had a somewhat unattractive VHS cover to begin with. I do, however, love the Platinum covers for Peter Pan and The Little Mermaid.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:07 pm
by VagueSimplicity
Disneykid wrote:
Snow White:
Diamond BD in DVD case > Platinum > Diamond BD in BD case > Diamond DVD
Beauty and the Beast:
Diamond > Platinum
I agree with you on these. As for the Bambi Diamond DVD cover, I think it looks really cheesy: just the three of them laughing surrounded by a bunch of leaves. It doesn't feel complete. It feels sort of plain. All the Diamond DVD covers thus far, imo, have looked dreadful (Beauty and the Beast especially).
I think the only Platinum/Diamond covers that have lived up to the VHS era of cover art are Peter Pan, Pinocchio, and Sleeping Beauty.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:08 pm
by toonaspie
I didnt notice till now that in the Snow White and BatB PE covers you see a series of sparklies and neither cover has a background. I wish they have kept those things consistent with all of the PE releases. That would've been cool.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:15 pm
by The_Iceflash
I think I'm going to hold off on considering the Bambi Diamond cover official.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:59 pm
by Disney Duster
Disneykid wrote:See, for me it's complicated. Here's how it goes for me.
Snow White:
Diamond BD in DVD case > Platinum > Diamond BD in BD case > Diamond DVD
Beauty and the Beast:
Diamond > Platinum
Bambi:
Diamond DVD > Platinum > Diamond BD
Exactly the same for me! Though I'm torn on if I think Snow White's Diamond DVD is second best because it has a background and no witch in the middle.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:02 pm
by MICKEYMOUSE
Why do poeple care so dam much about a cover!! GET OVER IT! Did you buy it to look at the cover the whole time or the classic movie?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:49 pm
by milojthatch
MICKEYMOUSE wrote:Why do poeple care so dam much about a cover!! GET OVER IT! Did you buy it to look at the cover the whole time or the classic movie?
I make my own covers, so the official one don't matter to me.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:36 am
by Atlantica
MICKEYMOUSE wrote:Why do poeple care so dam much about a cover!! GET OVER IT! Did you buy it to look at the cover the whole time or the classic movie?
As this is the representation on DVD / Blu shelves / posters / promotional art that will be seen for years to come. You want these films to look their very best, dont you ? You yourself deemed them 'classics'; other studios give their classic films suitable covers, but not Disney so it would seem.
What a lot of people feel on here is that they could pretty much use original poster art for their Diamond / Platinum releases .... that way, no extra cost to Disney for creating new, crappy peices of clip art all crowded onto one space.
I, for one, would LOVE to see a DVD cover of BATB that didnt feature the bloody ballroom scene ! There are other moments in the movie Disney !
I should probably re-edit the original post and include the new DVD releases for the '2 Disc Edition' ?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:04 am
by Wonderlicious
Snow White:
The Diamond cover would be better, if they hadn't gone and insisted on putting in the Witch. The mock-up cover wasn't too bad (aside from a particularly poorly done, zombie-like Queen), but once they threw in the Witch (and relegated Snow White to the bottom of the cover), then it got far too cluttered. The Platinum was the first of floating heads and randomly placed characters, a trend still bugging WDHE, but the characters, and moreover the Queen, were at the very least well replicated. The regular DVD edition looked like it was designed by somebody with bad Photoshop skills, I have to say.
Beauty and the Beast:
The Platinum cover was okay but just a bit generic. The Blu-Ray cover probably would be better had they placed the title at the top and not in the middle; is Disney censoring the clothed waist/thigh areas of the respective characters so as to not spark questions about the capabilities of a couple in love. For some reason, I prefer the regular DVD cover art, even if it makes Belle appear the main character and not part of a duo (though the Disney Princess franchise does that regularly, even to
Aladdin where the princess is a supporting character in somebody else's film). The DVD cover captures some of the thrills of the original film (Gaston, the castle at night, Maurice lost in the wood). It would be nice, as atlantica said, for something other than the ballroom scene, and the DVD cover at least strayed from it the most (even if Belle isn't wearing her village dress; for some reason I've always preferred the heroines in their casual wear).
Bambi:
The Platinum looks a bit
Lion King-ish, and essentially replicates that film's Platinum cover. The Diamond cover is awful, mainly due to the sideways lettering, and the regular DVD is fine but maybe a bit too cute. My favourite cover would probably be the cover for the international Platinum:
Basically, I agree with those that say the older VHS covers were probably better than any of the Platinum covers, bar
The Lion King and possibly
Peter Pan. The Platinum covers weren't awful, and they're not that important ultimately, but their whole design pattern (floating heads, vague backgrounds) just don't seem to speak to me that much. Maybe part of my bias derives from childhood nostalgia; the original VHS covers were undeniably the faces of the animated classics for me growing up.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:21 am
by dvdjunkie
I am so turned off by all the nay-sayers here regarding the covers of these Disney Animated Classics. Who cares what is on the cover besides the title. You don't play the cover on your player, and I don't see an look at the cover while the movie is playing!!! I think that most of you are looking at this whole "cover" thing totally wrong. If you are like most people who have their DVD's and Blu-rays shelved when not in use, then who cares what the cover looks like.
I used to be one of those people who tossed the slip cover out when I bought the disc (Standard DVD or Blu-ray) but now I never say anything about it because all the "children" here get upset - "It's worth more money with the slip cover!", etc.
I deal with the general public in Collector's Sales across 11 midwestern states, and have never once had a sale refused because there was no slip cover. And sealed copies don't sell because the buyer wants to make sure that what they are buying is in the case.
So, I say, just be happy that you are getting a release of a DAC, and quit being so nit-picky about whether the cover is too plain, or not artsy-fartsy enough for your tastes. All that matters is the quality of the product inbetween the covers.
The cover of a DVD or Blu-ray title will never stop me from buying it. If I want it I buy it!!! And that is just the way it should be for everyone.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:35 am
by TheSequelOfDisney
dvdjunkie, I think it has to do mostly with our senses. I mean, you eat with your eyes first before you ever put food in your mouth (unless you're blind, I guess). Same thing with buying practically anything. Why would you want to buy/eat/use what you think is not all that beautiful? Even if what's inside the packaging or on top of your plate looks fantastic, that doesn't mean that it actually is. Our sensory motor complex is sending us signals of what we would like. I guess I'm just saying that we see things, hear things, smell things first before we experience anything any further. Though our eyesight pales in comparison to a lot of other animals, we can still see. And buying something that is unappealing is, well, unappealing.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:16 am
by Disney's Divinity
Why do some people have to be so dramatic?

The topic is about whether or not you like the covers (and comparing them to the Platinum edition). It's not a "Will you" or "Will you not buy the next release?"
Most all of the covers suck, and it doesn't matter whether or not you look at them while you're watching the movie. And those are the pictures people are going to think of as "Disney" when they're walking around Target or Walmart. That's not the image I would want people to associate with the Disney name, anymore than all the Hannah Montana products. But it seems they've given up their animated films as kindergarten and daycare fodder.
Anyway, back to the topic, I'm surprised so many people like the Diamond cover of SW (even without the witch in the center). I mean, yes, it has a really nice concept that's more creative than the Platinum, but it's horribly executed. The mirror is colored like Spaghettios, and the dwarves have a weird sallow color. I do like how they have the title though. I don't know why they so often have to have a logo box--the one on the B&tB Diamond is probably the worst part about that cover (a little cloud? From what I remember, they had a better-looking logo box on the DVD cover with Gaston). I think they'd be better off to continue having the titles done like on the SW Diamond.
Also, I don't know why, but the title on both B&tB covers was really uninspired. Like somebody just typed it up on Microsoft. I don't know why they don't go back to the movie's title card.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:13 pm
by milojthatch
Ok, I'll tell you right now the thing that ticks me off the most about the official studio covers from say the last four years or so. The fact that that dumb "Disney Movie Rewards" symbol is permanently part of the cover! It just makes it look so dumb! Why can't it be a sticker? I don't get it.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:29 pm
by BK
They should replicate the covers they gave to Atlantis, Dinosaur, Tarzan & Emperor's New Groove.
They were the pinnacle of DVD covers and actually made them look like something worth collecting.
I must say the Fantasia 2000 Blu Ray cover does look good though.
As for the Platinums/Diamonds they look way too childish and crammed for the most part. Some are nice like Little Mermaid but others need work. I guess they must cram enough recognizable faces on the cover to attract kids, but, here's the key question, WHEN will the kids have ever seen the movie to recognize faces on the cover?