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Christmas is coming up, and family want's a christmas list (even though I'm 28). Anyway, I figured I could put some of the Disney Blu-Ray's I've neglected to pick up (including double-dipping on Snow White, Fantasia 2pack, Sleeping Beauty and Beauty in the beast (also adding Bolt and Princess and the Frog)) - anyway, I checked UD's animated classic list, which previously I have used as a checklist for my collection and I know for certain that Dinosaur was never listed as an Animated Classic.

So what gives? When did it jump on that list, and is this something that fans agree upon?

You know how to use a computer at only 2? They sure are growing up fast these days...

As far as I know, Dinosaur's always been considered an "Animated Classic." It was made at WDFA, so there's no reason it shouldn't be. It's even listed on the WDAS official site: http://www.disneyanimation.com/aboutus/history.html

It was added to the classics list a couple of years ago. More info here.

Kyle wrote:You know how to use a computer at only 2? They sure are growing up fast these days...

Technology doesn't wait mate
There is NOTHING they can't do these days

I don't really consider this or "Chicken Little" as Disney "classics". Out of the forty-nine animated films Disney have released, these are the only two I actively dislike for a variety of reasons. With "Dinosaur", I just thought the story was quite boring and slow while also very predictable. That being said, I did like the beginning as well as the animation of the meteor destroying the lemurs' island.

DisneyAnimation88 wrote:With "Dinosaur", I just thought the story was quite boring and slow while also very predictable. That being said, I did like the beginning as well as the animation of the meteor destroying the lemurs' island.

I totally agree with your opnion about "Dinosaur" DisneyAnimation88

stitchje1981 wrote:

Kyle wrote:You know how to use a computer at only 2? They sure are growing up fast these days...

Technology doesn't wait mate
There is NOTHING they can't do these days

My little brother new how to navigate and use the comp at age 2. Now he's 5 and he's a pro. he doesn't need my help anymore.

But I doubt this person are 2, hahaha.

anyway, Dinosaur is a great movie and it should get a proper rerelease.

LiKE I have said early, I personally don't see it as a part of the canon. Partly because it was added just recently, and partly because it was made by an different animation studio, even if it was owned by Disney. Unlike the other animated movies, the animation is an attempt to make the characters look as photorealistic as possible, at least when we are talking about skind and texture and such. And because the backgroungs are live action. The combination of these things is the reason why I don't see it as a "classic", even if it is listed as that on the official lists.

Kyle wrote:You know how to use a computer at only 2? They sure are growing up fast these days...

he's 28. the 8 and the " ) " made it look like this:

i never used to like it, thinking it was too dark and hard to see what was happening. turns out my old tv was giving up and all movies seemed to have a black sheet over the top. when i got a new tv, i rented dinosaur to "give it one last chance'. i was totally blown away! i went and bought it that weekend.

is dinosaur on blu ray? might rent that and see if the detail is any different to the dvd.

It is, I believe it was the first Disney blu ray released in fact.

Apparently it was intended to be a DAC, but the box office was so bad, they didn't do it.

But as goofystitch said, "Dinosaur was not technically animated by feature animation, but combined Disney's special effects department (Dream Quest Images) with WDFA's CGI unit to create Disney's Secret Lab which worked on the film. On top of that, Dinosaur used mostly live action backgrounds with CGI characters."

It doesn't matter what they intended, though, I don't think it should be on the list, as well as any of the package features, or Home on the Range (well, maybe) or Chicken Little. And maybe not even Meet the Robinsons or Bolt. Not sure.

First off, it has to be understood that Disney used to take better care of their "Animated Classics list" then they have for like the last decade. They once upon a time would be very good at making sure it was known what was and was not on that list. Then about a decade ago, they basically officially stopped the list to let fans decide for themselves what was and was not official.

Since that time, they have altered "the official list" and depending on what country you live in and what year it is, a number of different films may or may not be part of said list, including films like "Marry Poppins" and "Pete's Dragon." Film that traditionally were not on said list.

What this has lead to is fights and arguments as tow hat is and is not "official" being that Disney themselves can't even make up their minds.

But, for the most part, that stuff in mind, "Dinosaur" is a DAC. And I understand about personally not wanting to count a film because you don't like it. I personally can't stand "Little Mermaid" or "The Rescuers," yet at the end of the day, they are still part of that list and collection.

I don't consider Dinosaur a Walt Disney Animation Studios film, and apparently neither does Disney anymore. Disney's press materials for Tangled keep referring to it as Disney's 50th animated classic. It'd be 51 if Dinosaur were included. So while Dinosaur appears on the list from Disney's official website, they don't seem to be really acknowledging its entry in the canon elsewhere. I guess it's the unofficial WDAS film.

Kyle wrote:It is, I believe it was the first Disney blu ray released in fact.

thanks for that. will have to check it out.

The number of the feature these days is always printed on the DVD. Some countries have The Wild on the list, others have Dinosaur. But the handdrawn movies are always included.
I'm not sure if the compilation movies was on the original list. I just hope they are included for artistic reasons, and not for economic reasons.

But what should NOT matter, is their popularity and status and other subjective elements. Only objective factors should count. There will always be someone who hates a spesific feauture, while others are loving it. And vice versa.
The handdrawn movie I'm most sceptical about is Winnie the Pooh. It was made up of featurettes that had already had their own theatrical releases. Even Make Mine Music and Fun and Fancy Free, and the rest of these movies made in the 40's, were original material. If Winnie the Pooh is considered as a title in the canon, so should Academy Award Review of Walt Disney Cartoons.


Snow White, Peter Pan, Robin Hood, Oliver, Home on the Range, Chicken Little, they all came from the center of Disney animation. The studios in Florida and Paris were extensions of the main studio.
The Secret Lab sounds more like a parallel and experimental studio, and not directly connected to the rest of the animation department. Just my opinion.

Disneykid wrote:Disney's press materials for Tangled keep referring to it as Disney's 50th animated classic. It'd be 51 if Dinosaur were included.

Actually, it is number 50 because Dinosaur is included. If it wasn't, Tangled would be called number 49.

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:The Secret Lab sounds more like a parallel and experimental studio, and not directly connected to the rest of the animation department. Just my opinion.

It more or less was, from my understanding. While it had its roots in WDFA, it was a functioning studio that was its own subsidiary of the Buena Vista Motion Pictures Group, rather than a sub-studio of WDFA.

albert

Yeah. Just as DisneyToon Studios. These movies are part of their own canon. The only reason why Dinosaur is listed here, is probably because it was the only feature The Secret Lab ever made. I guess they felty to give it some company. But I don't think that justify it.

Now to decide whether to buy it (I've never seen it..)

And yes, I'm 28...

And thanks for the exhaustive (in a good way) replies.. I knew I could count on this place!