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What Disney DVDs do you feel DO NOT need a PE/ME/SE release?
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:36 am
by disneyjosh
By this I mean which DVDs stand on their own in terms of video and audio quality and supplements?
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:55 am
by Luke
Well, the Anthology features (not counting The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad) are satisfactorily released on DVD, except for the edits. I'm not expecting like 2-disc sets for them, or any re-releases on this format at all, naturally.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:16 am
by PatrickvD
R2 Pocahontas, wich has imo beautiful quality, the R1 version is terrible I heard from many people, so I guess its a good thing that this movie gets a ME treatment..... at some point

but I agree with Luke, that most of the anthology features are fine the way they are.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:26 am
by Poppins#1
I think Luke's comments meant that he didn't expect any further special editions to be made of the anthology series, not that they wouldn't benefit from them.
Personally I think the films need desperately to be worked on.
#1 They must be restored to their original form (unedited)
#2 Since these movies are musically based, an audio restoration would be benificial too. Remixed to 5.1 like the classic series. (But include the original mono as an option for the purists)
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:33 am
by 2099net
Being as they are anthologies as well, you would expect there to be lots of concept and pre-production artwork for the galleries too.
Personally I think Disney should release these as double disc sets, with 2 per set, plus lots of supplements (like the SA /TTC LD set).
Fun and Fancy Free and Ichabod and Mr Toad
Melody Time and Make Mine Music
Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros (just like the LD set)
Re: What Disney DVDs do you feel DO NOT need a PE/ME/SE rele
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:49 am
by Disney Guru
disneyjosh wrote:By this I mean which DVDs stand on their own in terms of video and audio quality and supplements?
Lets see that is a tough one.
Here are the movies that I think don't neat a special release.
Black Cauldron
Bedknobs And Broomsticks
Follow Me BOys
Missadventures Of Merlin Jones
Peter Pan
And their are a lot of others.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:54 am
by Tangela
All the films that came after The Hunchback of Notre Dame should stary on Starndard Editions or go back to the vault and stay there, this is the real Dark Age in my opinion, since none of this films has made me smile.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:56 am
by castleinthesky
Only the Collector's Editions should not come out on ME/SE/PE. All the other animated classics should come out on 2 disks on any of the PE/CE/SE/Me.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:10 pm
by Jake Lipson
Repeat after me:
Every Disney animated classic deserves a 2-disc set!
I'm not expecting them all to get the double-disc SE treatment, but everything should.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:54 pm
by Jack
Jake Lipson wrote:Repeat after me:
Every Disney animated classic deserves a 2-disc set!
I'm not expecting them all to get the double-disc SE treatment, but everything should.
Exactly. The only thing is, when it comes to films like
Saludos Amigos, I'm not even sure that enough bonus material could be gathered to fill 2 discs.
But any film that CAN be a 2-Disc set, SHOULD be a 2-Disc set.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:25 pm
by PatrickvD
Tangela wrote:All the films that came after The Hunchback of Notre Dame should stary on Starndard Editions or go back to the vault and stay there, this is the real Dark Age in my opinion, since none of this films has made me smile.

wow, not even Tarzan & Lilo and Stitch??
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:37 pm
by Tangela
Tarzan maybe, but Lilo and Stitch no. I saw it once and I thought it was a really bad movie.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:10 pm
by Disneykid
Jack wrote:
Exactly. The only thing is, when it comes to films like Saludos Amigos, I'm not even sure that enough bonus material could be gathered to fill 2 discs.
But any film that CAN be a 2-Disc set, SHOULD be a 2-Disc set.
That's exactly why I always thought the anthologies should be released exactly the way 2099 said-2 anthologies per DVD set paired up to match their themes (Latin America, Music, and Classic Stories). For example, Disney could release Fun and Fancy Free and The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad in one set, with the former on disc one with nice supplements and the latter on disc two with nice supplements. Or, they could put both films on disc one and all the features on disc two, dividing them by film (ala the Fantasia Legacy disc of the Fantasia Anthology where the DVD's supplements are divided in half for both Fantasia films).
And as most said, I believe every Disney animated classic deserves a two-disc release, even ones I'm not a fan of such as The Aristocats or The Fox and the Hound. Disney should have ONE SINGLE UNIFORM COLLECTION consisting of all the animated classics, each one numbered on the outer sleeve, but not the actual DVD cover, that way people who only buy a select few Disney DVD's can be rid of the slipcover and have no random number on their DVD spine. And all the covers should be very simple and elegant, like having a high quality painted icon representing the film, such as an apple for Snow White, a rose for Beauty and the Beast, etc.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:51 pm
by Jack
Disneykid wrote:That's exactly why I always thought the anthologies should be released exactly the way 2099 said-2 anthologies per DVD set paired up to match their themes (Latin America, Music, and Classic Stories). For example, Disney could release Fun and Fancy Free and The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad in one set, with the former on disc one with nice supplements and the latter on disc two with nice supplements. Or, they could put both films on disc one and all the features on disc two, dividing them by film (ala the Fantasia Legacy disc of the Fantasia Anthology where the DVD's supplements are divided in half for both Fantasia films).
Yes, I understand your point. But, when I referred to
Saludos Amigos, I was only using it as an example. Films besides the anthology films (like
Fox and the Hound, Rescuers etc.) may not have enough material to conjur up a 2-Disc Set. So that's why I said "If it CAN be a 2-Disc set, It SHOULD be a 2-Disc set".
Disneykid wrote:And all the covers should be very simple and elegant, like having a high quality painted icon representing the film, such as an apple for Snow White, a rose for Beauty and the Beast, etc.
I was actually thinking about this the other day. Great minds think alike.

Aside from the ones you mentioned:
The Lion King - The image of Simba in Rafiki's Tree
Aladdin - The Lamp
Cinderella - The Glass Slipper
Saludos Amigos, Three Caballeros - A sombrero
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:33 pm
by Tangela
Jack wrote:
Disneykid wrote:And all the covers should be very simple and elegant, like having a high quality painted icon representing the film, such as an apple for Snow White, a rose for Beauty and the Beast, etc.
I was actually thinking about this the other day. Great minds think alike.

Aside from the ones you mentioned:
The Lion King - The image of Simba in Rafiki's Tree
Aladdin - The Lamp
Cinderella - The Glass Slipper
Saludos Amigos, Three Caballeros - A sombrero
Jack, I don't think having the movie's symbol as a cover is a good idea, sorry brotha'...
I mean think about it... You know the movie so you would probably buy it, but kids are attracted always by colors, so this covers can't be dark, Kids that haven't seen the movie will not be attracted to it and won't want to see it, anyway I think the cover should represent every aspect of the film.
The covers should have the Main Character Appearing Large in the middle, in front of a good colorful Backround, and the villain and minor characters at the bottom a little smaller, and maybe the object (Like the Bottle or the Diamond in the Rescuers) And then the title.
I also like the villain behind the title, like in the VHS release of Snow White.
Yes, but this movies are made for kids, well most of them, and we can't have adult taste being put into them, kids like colors, as I've said before, and I'm glad you're not ignoring me.
Quoting from
Chat Session - Saturday, February 7th ,2003
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:54 pm
by Disneykid
Tangela wrote:Jack, I don't think having the movie's symbol as a cover is a good idea, sorry brotha'...
I mean think about it... You know the movie so you would probably buy it, but kids are attracted always by colors, so this covers can't be dark, Kids that haven't seen the movie will not be attracted to it and won't want to see it, anyway I think the cover should represent every aspect of the film.
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But the idea Jack and I have is to have this definitive collection be aimed squarely at die hard Disney fans. There are enough DVD releases out there for soccer moms and families to pick up. Besides, if the whole Archive Collection rumor is true (which supposedly will have absolutely NO kiddie features whatsoever), then I'd expect a mature and classy cover line for that collection as opposed to bright happy character portraits.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:15 pm
by Tangela
This is something that I'm really starting to hate about The Walt Disney Company, it seems that they are now spending time to make Adults happy, which wouldn't exactly be what Walt Disney himself would want, because I know how much he loved children, and these movies he worked so hard to make were ment to be for kids, not for adults. It is sad to see how this company is slowly being destroid by Michael Eisner and supposedly "Disney fans", who do nothing but criticize. If Walt Disney was still alive, this would be so much different, many movies would have never been made, maybe not even The Rescuers, but I wouldn't cared, because I would not know what I'm missing. And maybe Walt Disney was planning on making The Rescuers before his death, and I really wish he had, if he had been there during its production, the film would have never been cheated that way and would still be part of Disney today. Disney used to mean Mickey Mouse, Snow White, Minnie, Goofy, Peter Pan, Alice and all the others, today, Disney means only a phew things, Mickey Mouse, Aladdin, The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast and "How can we make this already highly acclaimed, loved in its original state better?", that's what Disney means today, it is no longer about making Children smile, it is all about finding a way to make more money and to satisfy adult pleasures, which sickens me. I do hope, this ends soon, or The Walt Disney Company will never be the same.
Wishing more than ever that Walt Disney was here... Its always the good ones who dye soon, only the bad ones stay, but maybe there's a reason for this, and I think it is because good men do not deserve to suffer in Earth, that's why God sends them to Heaven.