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It's sad, but I think everyone should see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4h6beq0jV4

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Disney is a global corporation, and the bottom line comes down to $$$$$

The cheaper the labour used to assemble merchandise & clothing, etc, the bigger the $$$. That's unfortunately the truth, but that doesn't make it morally right for such a squeaky-clean, family-friendly company as Disney.

The video is sad, but if you pay attention they mention that when people visit the factory, management covers up all of the wrongdoings. So when a Disney executive visits, they are lied to. Disney isn't intentionally using child labor to make their products. And I would venture to guess that Disney executives have seen this video and stopped doing business with that publisher or gone in to ensure that manufacturing becomes ethical.

Looks like we're being spammed today by ignorant communist douchebags.

goofystitch wrote:The video is sad, but if you pay attention they mention that when people visit the factory, management covers up all of the wrongdoings. So when a Disney executive visits, they are lied to. Disney isn't intentionally using child labor to make their products. And I would venture to guess that Disney executives have seen this video and stopped doing business with that publisher or gone in to ensure that manufacturing becomes ethical.

I would hope you are right, but who knows? Certainly it can be said that you can't be held responsible for what you don't know about.

goofystitch wrote:The video is sad, but if you pay attention they mention that when people visit the factory, management covers up all of the wrongdoings. So when a Disney executive visits, they are lied to. Disney isn't intentionally using child labor to make their products. And I would venture to guess that Disney executives have seen this video and stopped doing business with that publisher or gone in to ensure that manufacturing becomes ethical.

Hahahaha! Dream on! Come on, Disney can choose any manufacturer they want to make their merchandise! They intentionally go to China and Thailand and such places, where child and slave labor is common practice. They don't care. Disney is an evil company, remember that.

Goliath wrote:They don't care. Disney is an evil company, remember that.

That is not true! They DO care and they're not evil! Man, I'm sick and tired of people looking for ways to insult Disney for no reason and make up stupid lies just to make them look bad! It's all out of control!

(takes a few deep breaths and hops off soapbox)

There, there, girls, you're both beautiful.

Geez, you claim that a guy is evil and the whole world falls on top of you...

WDWLocal wrote:

Goliath wrote:They don't care. Disney is an evil company, remember that.

That is not true! They DO care and they're not evil! Man, I'm sick and tired of people looking for ways to insult Disney for no reason and make up stupid lies just to make them look bad! It's all out of control!

(takes a few deep breaths and hops off soapbox)

I hope you forgot a sarcasm-smiley, otherwise you come off as very uninformed.

SpringHeelJack wrote:There, there, girls, you're both beautiful.

Indeed.

Girls, girls, please. Above all, self control...

WDWLocal wrote:That is not true! They DO care and they're not evil! Man, I'm sick and tired of people looking for ways to insult Disney for no reason and make up stupid lies just to make them look bad! It's all out of control! Mad

(takes a few deep breaths and hops off soapbox)

*slams hands on piano*

WHAT?

You're saying a major multimedia corporation who mass produces and licenses goods made in China, a developing country who uses cheap labour, wouldn't use child labour in some indirect fashion?

How much is the mouse payin' ya? More than those kids I bet!

Never mind the kids, I doubt the adults are paid much either but that's because the cost of living is less in that country.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:Never mind the kids, I doubt the adults are paid much either but that's because the cost of living is less in that country.

Most Western corporations pay less than the legal minimum wage in 'developing' countries. Also, often employees are forced to work overtime without getting paid. They often work in very unsafe environments.

Goliath wrote:Most Western corporations pay less than the legal minimum wage in 'developing' countries. Also, often employees are forced to work overtime without getting paid. They often work in very unsafe environments.

Very true and anyone who doubts this should really see certain documentaries on the country such as the recent excellently made one by CBC.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:Very true and anyone who doubts this should really see certain documentaries on the country such as the recent excellently made one by CBC.

Is tat one available online (maybe YouTube)? What's its title? I'd like to see it. For others, I recommend the 'Black Book on Brand Companies' by the German journalists Klaus Werner and Hans Weiss, which also says a lot about the Disney Corporation's unethical business practices.

That's the reason I don't collect any of the Disney 'merchandise', like pluche dolls, plastic figures, T-shirts etc. I already feel uncomfortable knowing that with every Disney comic and dvd I buy, the money goes to "the evil company".

Goliath wrote:Is that one available online (maybe YouTube)? What's its title? I'd like to see it.

Off the top of my head I don't know the name, but I'm sure it's just a Google search away. It's really just about everything 21st century China. Political, cultural etc, really a great watch but I forgets the name!

Goliath wrote:For others, I recommend the 'Black Book on Brand Companies' by the German journalists Klaus Werner and Hans Weiss, which also says a lot about the Disney Corporation's unethical business practices."

I can't find any english excerpts from that book on the web and I've read it's not available in English. Could you tell me what the book says about the Disney company?

Goliath wrote:That's the reason I don't collect any of the Disney 'merchandise', like pluche dolls, plastic figures, T-shirts etc. I already feel uncomfortable knowing that with every Disney comic and dvd I buy, the money goes to "the evil company".

I'm glad you have a social consciense where corporations are concerned. Most people in our society don't seem to have that. Have you ever considered, though, that perhaps boycotting products produced by sweatshop labor hurts the workers making them? After all, it may mean they make even less money then they otherwise would (since the company has less money to give them) and could lead to some of them losing those jobs, particularly if the boycott becomes widespread, and they must be pretty desperate already if they've chosen to work in such places.

If you don't mind my blunt honesty, Goliath, but I find it surprising that you, someone who seems to have a detest towards both Disney the man and Disney the corporation, is an active participant in a site that is meant to CELEBRATE the efforts of both man and company.

Not saying that you should be a blind fanboy ignorant of the flaws and unethical treatment the company is guilty of, and that its OK to question even the stuff you like. I just find it odd since the most participation I see out of you is in threads like this.

Also, Goliath, not all the money they generate from DVD and ticket sales go directly to the "evil" side of Disney. They also have good people that work hard to make all of this a reality. The money they earn also go towards them. Animators, theme park performers, advertisers, editors, janitors, etc. These people are also Disney, and they are proud of their jobs. They deserve to get paid too.

Oh, why didn't I think of this sooner...

Rudy Matt wrote:Looks like we're being spammed today by ignorant communist douchebags.

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pap64 wrote:Oh, why didn't I think of this sooner...

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