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"Merlin" Series Two began on Saturday night with "The Curse of Cornelius Sigan" and the start of a new behind-the-scenes series, "Merlin: Secrets and Magic"!

Guest stars in the second series include Mackenzie Crook as Cedric ("The Curse of Cornelius Sigan"), Adrian Lester as Myror ("The Once and Future Queen"), Sarah Parish as Lady Catrina, Charles Dance as Aredian, and the returns of Santiago Cabrera as Lancelot and Asa Butterfield as Mordred. Michelle Ryan's Nimueh is also rumoured to return as well.

In this season, we'll see Arthur and Gwen's relationship develop and the class struggles that it comes with, as well as the growing powers of both Merlin and Morgana.

For US fans, there's no date yet for when (or if) NBC will air the second season, or if perhaps the series will move to BBC America. :( In the meantime, fans in the UK can enjoy the show Saturdays on BBC One, with "Merlin: Secrets and Magic" the next day.

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This weeks opener was okay. Much stronger than most of the series 1 episodes, but still missing something. I think I know what it was that put me off - the threat was built up well. But like so many things so easily vanquished at the end.

While I was watching I expected Cedric/Sigan to become a major reoccuring threat for the series. A sort of Buffy "big bad" if you will. But no, it just popped up and was gone again. I really think they should look at series arcs or at the very least several two-parters per series.

But for all my criticisms this episode still had lots of good about it. The events do seem to influence upcoming episodes. Which is good. At least we're not getting a ST:TNG style "reset" even though the threat was vanquished.

Oh, and it appears Lancelot will be back this series too!
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I liked the build-up as well, but the threat of another magical being was really...I don't know...not as threatening as I'd have thought. It ended too quickly and conveniently, though I liked how Merlin had to resort to asking the Great Dragon for advice.

Would've been cooler if Cedric/Sigan had escaped and become a re-occurring villain in the season (like Nimueh was) and have a grand finale at the end in which Merlin - who has learned much more about the magic that the Great Dragon seemed to "breathe" on him - would be able to defeat him in a way that was more believable.

I'm loving what they're doing with Morgana and want to see more of her (which I have a feeling they'll do in "The Return of Mordred").

The Arthur/Gwen relationship had its first few seeds sown in the first series, and I liked how she saved him in the first episode, and he seemed to enjoy her laying on top of him. :lol:

All in all, for a first episode of the season, it's pretty good. You're already familiar with the characters, you're already aware of the threat of magic, and just being able to see them again after a year makes you enjoy the story even if it isn't one of the best. I'd probably give the episode a 6/10 for now, though if later episodes are much better, this rating may drop a bit.

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Well, I enjoyed this weeks episode a lot more. I won't even complain about a lack of ongoing narrative because it was basically a character piece really. I laughed a lot more than last weeks (although I thought last weeks was funnier - I think I was just in a better mood). But I really would like to see more reoccurring faces in the cast. There's still too much of a feeling that each episode ends in a reset (when in actual fact it doesn't - most character progression is kept).

Escapay, I'm sure you're beside yourself after seeing the next time trailer. It really does look like it could be the best Merlin yet.
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Finally had a chance to sit down and watch the second episode. Best line in it: "Gwen says you're cooking..."

I like how the whole episode seemed like it was about Arthur proving his skills without needing his title, but really became all about developing Arthur and Gwen's relationship (thus explaining the episode title, lol).

It also seemed to be the episode of outbursts as Merlin had one to Gaius then Gwen had one to Arthur.

And it's always fun when they have a secret plan and get away with it. :D

One thing they could have done without were the operatic voices during the final joust. It felt too cliched.
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I am! Mainly because Morgana's in the spotlight (she didn't even SAY anything in Episode 2!), and also because I really loved the Morgana/Merlin scenes from series one and I really want to see how far they'll develop their friendship/relationship.

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Well, the BBC's Christmas schedule has let slip the finale of Merlin will be pretty big.

And on a related note, the BBC has confirmed series three for next year. I wonder how big a role the Great Dragon will have in that... if at all? :)

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bbc-ones-merlin ... es/124627/
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Yay for Series Three!

I feel bad for not updating this thread with my thoughts on each episode. I think after the finale I'll do a marathon of the entire second series and post my thoughts then. That way all the episodes will be fresh on my mind.

One thing I didn't like about Series Two was the diminished role that Morgana seemed to have. Aside from "The Nightmare Begins" and some minor-but-important scenes in "The Witchfinder" she hasn't really been present much this season. Based on the summaries for the last 3 episodes, I'm really hoping she gets more screen time.

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I was doing some searching on the web to see if NBC had announced anything about airing Season Two yet, and I found that SyFy has aquired the US TV rights to the series and plans on airing Season Two beginning April 2, as well as a marathon repeat of Season 1 on March 28.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=8504

I'm glad it ended up on SyFy rather than BBC America, simply because my cable company doesn't have BBC America on my expanded basic cable package, but does have SyFy!

I'm surprised Escapay hasn't posted this scoop first! ;)
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Just a reminder that Season 2 airs in the US on SyFy, with the first episode premiering on Friday, April 2, at 10 PM ET, and repeating SEVERAL times throughout the week.

Also, they are airing another marathon of Season One (in addition to the one this past Sunday) beginning later today, Thursday, 4/1, at 8AM ET and running for 12 hours (one of the 13 episides won't air).
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Caught some of the Series 1 marathon last week (along with a bit of it repeating on Thursday) but didn't get a chance to rewatch Season 2 when it premiered on Friday. From the look of it, they're editing out a couple minutes from episodes (either whole scenes or minor lines of dialogue), I noticed an Arthur/Merlin scene removed towards the end of Episode 10's "The Moment of Truth". SyFy did the same thing when they aired "Doctor Who", and it's annoying, but for the most part, the episodes still are good.

Haven't heard much about how filming's going for Series 3, though I can't wait for April 20th, when the Series 1 DVD is released in the US and I can finally retire my oft-played DVD-Rs. :D

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Episode 2 ("The Once and Future Queen") of "Merlin" is on tonight at 10 on SyFy.

For anyone who hasn't yet tuned in to the series, this episode is one of the better ones to acquaint yourself with the series. It's also one of the best from the second season.

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MARATHON TOMORROW!

SyFy will be running the entire Second Season tomorrow (Fri, July 2) in order beginning at 10 AM Eastern Time. After airing the first 12 episodes, Episode 13, the final episode of the season, will premiere at its usual time of 10 PM Eastern Time.

This will be helpful for me to see a few of the episodes I missed while in Florida!
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Unfortunately, I'm missing it as I'll be in NYC for the day. :(

No worries though, I've got DVD-Rs! :D :D :D

How'd you enjoy the season, David? I think it was better than the first.

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How'd you enjoy the season, David? I think it was better than the first.

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Thanks for asking! :)

I enjoyed it a lot, and now that I've had the chance to see all of the episodes (as well as see them in their intended order), I will definitely agree that this season was stronger than the first (which was itself pretty strong, as that's what got me hooked on it in the first place!) This season definitely had more character development, more interesting twists, and more of a dramatic "edge" (in a good way).

Here's some random thoughts:

This section may contain SPOILERS for those who haven't seen the show

I enjoyed all the episodes that dealt with Morgana, her realization that she had magic, and the growing rift between her and Uther. I agree with what you said about her being kind of underutilized, though. It seems there would have been more development about her learning about her magic, but not much is really said about it again until towards the end. The penultimate episode in which Merlin poisons her was both surprising and powerful, though.

The character of Morgause was interesting also, and I liked the return of Mordred as well.

One episode that really stands out in my mind was "The Lady Of the Lake". I thought it was very sad, but also very beautiful and moving. I really like how Merlin treated someone who was an outcast, and who had such a curse, with such compassion and dignity when no one else would. I am not ashamed to say I cried a river during that final scene by the lake.

I thought the two part episode where Uther married a troll was very funny. One thing that really annoys me about Uther is that no matter how many times people like Merlin and Gaius save the Kingdom (and save his neck) he is still so quick to turn on them, throw them in the dungeon, or even call for their execution. (kind of like no matter how many times Bo and Luke save Boss Hogg's life, he is still always ready to "cuff and stuff them". And yes, I realize that show is completely silly and not meant to be taken seriously, but it was the first example I thought of! ;) ) But anyway, it's like Uther doesn't learn anything, but I guess that makes sense considering it's part of who he is and part of why he is so despised.

Speaking of Uther, I thought "The Sins Of The Father" was a very intense and powerful episode. Not only because Arthur got to meet his late mother and learn the truth about his origins, but also because of the intensity of the subsequent sword duel between father and son. The intense dramatic dynamic here kind of reminded of the light saber confrontations between Luke and his father in the original Star Wars films. In the end, of course, Merlin saves Uther's life, which was a very selfless act on his part, and which showed great loyalty to Arthur, not wanting him to have to live with the painful consequences that killing his father would have brought him.

Lastly, on the final episode, I was so glad that Merlin finally got to meet and learn about his father, and so sad that their time together ended prematurely. For some reason I had a bad feeling that would happen before the end of the episode, though.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the season, and am looking forward to the next one!
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I must say that altough I def. like the overall feel of the series storywise that visually I think It's rather falling apart.

Cheap cgi, simple wardrobes...

I can imagine it has a rather modest budget but I'm amazed that BBC would show both Tudors and Merlin...entirely different I know...

But why is fantasy always low-budget ???
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REINIER wrote:I can imagine it has a rather modest budget but I'm amazed that BBC would show both Tudors and Merlin...entirely different I know...
"The Tudors" has the benefit of several companies producing it (some are big names like Showtime and Working Title Films) while "Merlin" is solely produced by "Shine Limited," and so naturally their budget is much smaller.

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Escapay wrote:
REINIER wrote:I can imagine it has a rather modest budget but I'm amazed that BBC would show both Tudors and Merlin...entirely different I know...
"The Tudors" has the benefit of several companies producing it (some are big names like Showtime and Working Title Films) while "Merlin" is solely produced by "Shine Limited," and so naturally their budget is much smaller.

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Thanks for clearing that up :D

I hope that increasing popularity of these kind of shows might change things for future productions.
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Series Two is already on DVD in the UK, but for R1 fans, it will be released January 18, 2011

TVShowsonDVD has the announcement: (click the link to see online trailer and packaging)
  • Merlin is back with even more magic, adventure and romance as the young wizard struggles to protect Prince Arthur in the perilous world of Camelot. While battling deadly assassins, mystical monsters and the most powerful sorcerers Camelot has ever seen, Merlin must work harder than ever to conceal his unique abilities, as King Uther redoubles his war against magic.

    And Merlin isn't the only one whose destiny calls: Lady Morgana , Uther's ward, discovers dangerous secrets she dare not reveal; Lancelot returns, changing everything for both Gwen and Arthur; and King Uther falls in love, little knowing that the charming Lady Catrina is secretly a hideous troll.

    And as Arthur continues on his path from arrogant prince to the noble and just King Arthur of legend, we see the return of the one prophesised to kill him: the mysterious druid boy, Mordred. Featuring exciting new villains, white-knuckle stunt sequences, and spectacular CGI monsters, Merlin season two is more thrilling than ever!

    Merlin - The Complete 2nd Season has been announced for release on DVD on January 18th. The 5-disc set from BBC/Warner will run 571 minutes for 13 episodes, and cost $49.98 SRP. Bonus material is listed below, followed by an online trailer video and then the package art:

    Cast and Crew introduction to Season Two

    Cast and Crew audio commentaries (ScapsNote: I'm pasting the episodes and participants here, though it's not mentioned in the announcement)
    --Episode 1: "The Curse of Cornelius Sigan" - Colin Morgan (Merlin) and Bradley James (Prince Arthur Pendragon)
    --Episode 2: "The Once and Future Queen" - Angel Coulby (Gwen) and Anthony Head (Uther Pendragon).
    --Episode 4: "Lancelot and Guinevere" - Colin Morgan (Merlin) and Bradley James (Prince Arthur Pendragon).
    --Episode 8: "The Sins of the Father" - Colin Morgan (Merlin), Bradley James (Prince Arthur Pendragon), and Anthony Head (Uther Pendragon).
    --Episode 10: "Sweet Dreams" - Bradley James (Prince Arthur Pendragon) and Angel Coulby (Gwen), producer Julian Murphy, and director Alice Troughton.
    --Episode 11: "The Witch's Quickening" - Katie McGrath (Morgana), producer Julian Murphy, and director Alice Troughton.
    --Episode 12: "The Fires of Idirsholas" - Colin Morgan (Merlin) and Katie McGrath (Morgana), and director Jeremy Webb.

    Behind the Scenes (ScapsNote: Likely the 13-part "Merlin: Secrets and Magic" series)

    The Making of Merlin

    Photo Gallery

    Wallpapers

    Taken from: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Merlin ... z13i3QPfoh
I'm a bit upset that "The Real Merlin and Arthur" documentary isn't included, but it was excluded from the R2 DVDs, along with the segment from a "Secrets & Magic" episode that dealt with Colin & Bradley lip-synching to John Farnham's "You're the Voice." But I'm just glad to have the episodes on DVD. Since Season 1 came to DVD shortly before Season 2 aired, that must mean that Season 3 will be on Syfy shortly after this DVD release.

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