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Pixar ends talks with Disney
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:38 pm
by Jake Lipson
From Animated News & CNN Money:
Pixar Animation Studios has announced it has ended talks with The Walt Disney Company over extending their five-picture deal. "After ten months of trying to strike a deal with Disney, we're moving on," Pixar CEO Steve Jobs said in a statement. "We've had a great run together - one of the most successful in Hollywood history - and it's a shame that Disney won't be participating in Pixar's future successes". Two films remain to be released by Disney - Nomember's The Incredibles and 2005's Cars. Pixar will begin negotiations with other interested studios to distribute its films released in 2006 and beyond. Finding an interested studio won't be difficult. Pixar's films have made $2.5 billion at box offices worldwide and have sold more than 150 million DVDs and videos.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:40 pm
by Jack
Oh well. The ending of the deal won't effect the quality or the success of Pixar's work.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:44 pm
by subzero
Pixar should leave Disney, they are milking them good, every Pixar film is like GOLD.. but then I would miss the Disney Pixar name though, FOX Pixar would not be the same
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:44 pm
by Lady
i hope pixar hooks up with dreamworks.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:44 pm
by Luke
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:02 pm
by bean:therio
I can't see Pixar hooking up with Dreamworks since they've allready got PDI under their wings. Warner, Fox or Universal are more likely candidates.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:13 pm
by PatrickvD
I can hear the sound of a big NO to the re-election of Micheal Ei$ner, the nightmare is finally over...no more cheapquels and disney dvds lacking extras,... and with a little bit of luck..Rapunzel in 2d

we can dream cant we?

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:18 pm
by dizfan
Maybe it was meant to be for that exact reason ^
It's going to be a sad thing when Pixar has it's first flop (or at least one that doesn't top the last one). Everyone praises it now, but when that happens the press will have a field day.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:20 pm
by PheR
so may the walt disney company rest in peace

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:24 pm
by Jack
dizfan wrote:It's going to be a sad thing when Pixar has it's first flop (or at least one that doesn't top the last one). Everyone praises it now, but when that happens the press will have a field day.
If you are implying that they will have a flop once they break ties with Disney, then I really think you're wrong. Pixar makes the films completely free of Disney as it is - Disney just distributes it. A change in the distributer is highly unlikely to cause Pixar to have a flop all of a sudden.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:32 pm
by dizfan
I'm not implying a thing. I am just saying that Pixar's streak has to end some time with or without Sleeping Beauty Castle attached to the front of the film. Either way it will be harsh, because the longer it takes for it to happen the harder they will fall. I personally would not be surprised if the first post-Disney film of theirs did not meet expectations, but that's just me.
I, for one, have no reason to see the movies following "Cars" since Disney is no longer in the partnership with them. I am not an animation fan, I am a Disney animation fan. And even though Disney didn't make them, it was the association with Disney that attracted me to them. Now, they are going to be no different to me than Dreamworks because it was Disney that allowed for the characters to appear in the parks and have attractions and whole lands based on these wonderful movies...and I enjoyed that. It's going to be a huge change.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:37 pm
by subzero
holy crap, talk about being biased? even though everyone is entitle to their opinion but not watching a film because its not attachment of disney? you sound like a 10 year old boy.
I, for one think that Pixar will have more success, and disney would definitely go down under, even though they still have the rights to the first 5 pixar films and the 2 upcoming ones and probably will be using some evil marketing scheme to MILK the crap out of us.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:38 pm
by MickeyMousePal
I wonder when Pixar leaves Disney they might not do so well solo.
But who knows they might make more profit without Disney or they might fall apart and run out of ideas causing Pixar to regroup with Disney. (IMO)
But who knows the future the only thing we can do is wait and see what happens to Disney and Pixar.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:43 pm
by dizfan
subzero wrote:holy crap, talk about being biased? even though everyone is entitle to their opinion but not watching a film because its not attachment of disney? you sound like a 10 year old boy.
I'm not the one name calling so...
I just do not watch animated films in general, what's the big deal?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:44 pm
by Jack
The Disney name does add some benefit to the recognition of Pixar's films, but in the end, the quality of the films is what will lead to success. Take
Finding Nemo - do you really think it would've made a lot less without the Disney name? It might not have had quite as big an opening weekend, but it still would've been a big hit.
Pixar's going to do fine after their break from Disney. Hopefully it'll lead to Pixar being a household name.
dizfan wrote:I just do not watch animated films in general, what's the big deal?
It's hard to take someone seriously when they have a California Adventure avatar.
Just kidding. You're entitled to your opinion.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:49 pm
by dizfan
I doubt that would happen soon.
And I do think Finding Nemo would have done significantly less without the association with Disney considering that on top of the normal promotions that other studios are equipped to do, it also had it's theme parks around the world and other outlets that other studios do not have to be able to promote in.
It would have been a success, but not like it was I would think.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:49 pm
by bean:therio
dizfan wrote:subzero wrote:holy crap, talk about being biased? even though everyone is entitle to their opinion but not watching a film because its not attachment of disney? you sound like a 10 year old boy.
I'm not the one name calling so...
I just do not watch animated films in general, what's the big deal?
Well you're missing out on an enormous amount of great animated films then. I myself really don't care about the name of the studio that is attached to a movie and I think Pixar is just going to do fine after the breakup.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:51 pm
by dizfan
Jack wrote:
It's hard to take someone seriously when they have a California Adventure avatar.
Just kidding. You're entitled to your opinion.
I also work there, I love the park. So there.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:52 pm
by dizfan
bean:therio wrote:dizfan wrote:
I'm not the one name calling so...
I just do not watch animated films in general, what's the big deal?
Well you're missing out on an enormous amount of great animated films then. I myself really don't care about the name of the studio that is attached to a movie and I think Pixar is just going to do fine after the breakup.
That's just my position. I do not care about animated films in general. I would not consider myself an animation fan at all. I like Disney movies animated or not. That's probably why it's so easy to just turn my back on Pixar now that the partnership has ended.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:53 pm
by Jack
dizfan wrote:And I do think Finding Nemo would have done significantly less without the association with Disney considering that on top of the normal promotions that other studios are equipped to do, it also had it's theme parks around the world and other outlets that other studios do not have to be able to promote in.
I understand what you are saying, but the reason for
Nemo being a hit wasn't just because of strong marketing - it was because of the movie itself.
There are plenty of films that have huge marketing and open big like
Nemo did. But, since the public really responded to the movie's story & characters, it had legs, and it went on to gross an enourmous sum of money.
That's why I said before, without the Disney name, the opening weekend may not have been as huge, but the film still would've went on to become a massive hit.