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Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:40 am**

You guys wouldn't believe how many threads there are about Cinderella... lol.

Anywho, if the powers that be think this pertains in the Movies, Music, TV Discussion, then by all means move it over and you have my apologies.

I wasn't really sure where to put this here or there since it was on The Wonderful World of Disney.

Members of UD, I have a question:

Does anyone have an mp3 of Bernadette Peters singing "Falling in Love With Love"? After searching and searching I have not been able to find it anywhere.

If anyone has it, can you *PLEASE* send it to me?? My e-mail is in my profile. Thank you very much!

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:21 am**

Sending an e-mail...

-Sky

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:57 am**

I just got it, thank you! And I'm not sure who the second person is that sent me an e-mail, but thank you to you too!

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:02 pm**

Chris, I hope you found it!

In my own little corner this version doesn't exist...it's Julie and Lesley Ann all the way. I thought this PC remake was a travesty!

These guys just didn't GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:06 pm**

Yes, I found it... and it does have In My Own Little Corner...

I personally enjoyed this version

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:27 pm**

I was saying in MY (Jon's) own little corner this sucky version doesn't exist. It can't compare with the 1957 or 1965 version.

I know this version contains the song In My Own Little Corner sung badly by Brandy with PC changed lyrics...

I saw this once when I was 13 and that was definitely enough. I've come to appreciate and adore the first and second versions. Have you seen/heard them? That's how R&H should be sung!

But as with everything , to each his own!

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:30 pm**

carolinakid wrote:I was saying in MY (Jon's) own little corner this sucky version doesn't exist. It can't compare with the 1957 or 1965 version.

OH!

And no, I haven't seen/heard the other versions. :/

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:01 pm**

I don't think I've seen the other versions either, but I thought this movie was fine (at least, as far as the music is concerned). Houston and Peters were the stand-outs, though I liked the prince and the stepsisters, too. I need to get the soundtrack for this movie one day. I'm pretty sure there was one...

Wait. I do own one of the versions, I think--it has Pat Carroll as one of the stepsisters, right? Well, that version was completely horrible.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:44 pm**

Nope, there was never an official soundtrack released. I've had to d/l the songs people have ripped of the DVD.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:28 pm**

When I was younger, Disney Channel would occassionally play the Lesley Ann Warren version of R&HC, and I always thoroughly enjoyed it, and I watched the Brandy version when it premiered, and I have it on DVD. I like the story of Cinderella anyway, and even though I prefer the original Disney version, I really do like R&HC. I think that the songs are absolutely wonderful, and I just really like it...I don't need a better reason...

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:34 pm**

Pat Carroll played a stepsister in the 1965 (Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon) version. I sorry you hated it.
It's considered something of a classic and was shown on CBS annually for around 10 years. Have you see the DVD or do you have the cast album?

The Julie Andrews version to me is the true standard. The DVD is kind of tough to watch cause it's a kinescope of the live broadcast but the CD is sheer heaven! I guess it all depends on whether you like your show tunes sung in a classic or comtemporary (Brandy circa '97) style. I prefer the classic Broadway style.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:07 pm**

carolinakid wrote:Pat Carroll played a stepsister in the 1965 (Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon) version. I sorry you hated it.
It's considered something of a classic and was shown on CBS annually for around 10 years. Have you see the DVD or do you have the cast album?

I have a VHS version my mom taped. When I found out that Pat Carroll starred in it, I re-watched it when I was older. I don't know, it wasn't so much the singing that was bad (because they were decent, though nothing good enough for me to buy a soundtrack of if there were one), but that the characters were so confined. For example, when the stepsisters were singing about the Prince liking the girl at the ball (Cinderella), they really just stood there without doing anything.

The modern version is gaudy in a lot of ways, but the characters are always active and moving (usually dancing) at least.

The Julie Andrews version to me is the true standard. The DVD is kind of tough to watch cause it's a kinescope of the live broadcast but the CD is sheer heaven! I guess it all depends on whether you like your show tunes sung in a classic or comtemporary (Brandy circa '97) style. I prefer the classic Broadway style.

Yeah, that's probably the better version of the film, and I'll try and find it on DVD someday to compare.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:10 pm**

blackcauldron85 wrote:When I was younger, Disney Channel would occassionally play the Lesley Ann Warren version of R&HC, and I always thoroughly enjoyed it, and I watched the Brandy version when it premiered, and I have it on DVD. I like the story of Cinderella anyway, and even though I prefer the original Disney version, I really do like R&HC. I think that the songs are absolutely wonderful, and I just really like it...I don't need a better reason...

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:17 pm**

Ya know, I was going to write "often" instead of "occassionally", in reference to how frequently Disney Channel played the movie, but I wasn't sure... yup.

I vaguely remember the Danny Kaye "Pinocchio"; I definitely know that I would watch it when I was younger, but for some reason, I remember "Cinderella" more than "Pinocchio". Thanks for sharing the links, Aaron- I definitely want to watch the movie!

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:19 pm**

I definitely remember both the Leslie Anne Warren version of Cinderella and the Sandy Duncan production of Pinocchio from Disney Channel. That takes me back to my childhood. I really wish there could be a Disney Channel Rewind channel that would play old programs and movies that used to air.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:49 pm**

goofystitch wrote:I really wish there could be a Disney Channel Rewind channel that would play old programs and movies that used to air.

Only you and the rest of the world.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:57 pm**

carolinakid wrote: I prefer the classic Broadway style.

Ditto Jon! I have the soundtrack for the 1957 version (off the itunes store) and it sounds way better to me than Brandy sounding like she ran a marathon right before singing each number.

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:47 pm**

The 1965 Lesley Ann Warren version is my favorite - - I never get tired of its sincerity and often watch it at the holidays! What a great score. I love the Julie Andrews original too, but Lesley is the best production for me. Both of these are on CD and DVD.

Strangely, there was never a CD for the Whitney/Brandy version. Record label contract problems, maybe?

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:31 pm**

I grew up with the Leslie Ann Warren version and as a kid, it was second only to Disney's version as the definitive Cinderella movie. Heck, it still might even be my second favorite Cinderella film (the Slipper and the Rose is right up there).

I like all three versions of the R&H musical, but the 60s one with Warren is my favorite. My main problem with both the 50s one with Julie Andrews and the 90s one with Brandy is that they're too comedic. It's hard to really feel sympathy for Cinderella when her plight is treated like a farce. The Warren one is more understated and refined.

The fact that the 50s teleplay is so broad is even more baffling when you take into consideration that R&H wrote the book as well as the songs. The same guys who gave us epics like Oklahoma!, The King and I, and The Sound of Music give us an interpretation of Cinderella that isn't as innovative and sincere as it should be. Heck, this version came out seven years after Disney's; you'd think they would've taken notes to push the envelope further.

The 90s one is exactly what people keep calling it: gaudy and over-produced. I like the idea of using a storybook illustration type of production design, but I think they went too far into the realm of whimsy. A lot of it, to be honest, is an eye sore. Brandy's a great singer, but she's not a good Cinderella. I didn't buy into her performance one bit becuase that's all it felt like: a performance. The whole thing is just too self-consciously PC, like if the filmmakers went down a checklist of nationalities and assigned one to each character.

I know it sounds like I hate the 50s and 90s versions, but I really don't. I've got a head cold right now, so that's probably making me more pessimistic than usual. I think both films are saved by their musical numbers and (non-Brandy) cast. Julie Andrews is an excellent Cinderella, and Edie Adams is probably my favorite of the three fairy godmother actresses. The 90s one is my least favorite of the three, but the supporting cast (especially Whoopi Goldberg and Bernadette Peters) are great, even if I'm not too crazy about the tone. What's ironic is "Impossible" is my favorite song from R&H's Cinderella in general, and my favorite rendition of it happens to be Brandy's and Whitney Houston's.

And for those of you who think I'm immune to the flaws of the 60s interpretation, let me just say that I think Stuart Damon is an awkward actor, and Celeste Holm a shaky singer. And I won't even go into the "special effect" for the flying carriage...

But either way, I like all three and own the first two. I've been waiting for a re-release of the 90s one before I buy it, though that doesn't seem likely, now.

And as corny as it is, I love Sandy Duncan's Pinocchio. I, too grew up with that on the Disney Channel around the same time as R&H's 60s Cinderella. Anyone else remember Once Upon A Brothers Grimm? That was recently released on DVD as a double feature with Pinocchio, and I bought it out of nostalgia. It takes me back to a time when Disney Channel showed quality programming (because, yes, Brothers Grimm used to air on Disney a lot back in the early 90s, too).

Posted: **Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:53 pm**

Disney Channel also used to air the 1960 NBC telecast of Peter Pan with Mary Martin. I know, I lost my tape ages ago and taped a broadcast from Disney. (I've since copied the local library's tape, gotten a DVD-R taken from the VHS since the official DVD was only in print for about 5 minutes and now costs more than $250 online, and I also finally have a legit copy of the VHS which now makes all my bootlegs legal.

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I own all three versions, and I enjoy all three for many reasons. I enjoy the 1957 production because it's more old-fashioned, which I love, Julie Andrews' singing blows both LAW and Brandy out of the water, and also because I love Kaye Ballard and Alice Ghostley as the stepsisters and Howard Lindsey and Dorothy Stickney make a fun King and Queen. I love the 1965 production for nostalgic reasons and because Jo Van Fleet makes an excellent stepmother. I enjoy the 1997 production because it's more contemporary, which I also love, and I love the cast. What's not to love when a movie has Whoopi Goldberg, Bernadette Peters, and Whitney Houston before her downward spiral?

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Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella (1997)

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