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Before Albert jumps down my throat, I did search and I'm very shocked/surprised/sad that there is no Aladdin Discussion thread. The only Aladdin threads that exist are all about the DVD and questions about it, sales and where to find them, and, hell, even Return of Jafar had a discussion thread! So I decided to start an official Aladdin discussion thread where we can just discuss the film, not the differences in aspect ratios*, or whatever the heck you DVD nit-picks talk about! :p


So anywho, they were actually giving Aladdin on the Disney Channel tonight (Surprise, right?! :o) and I caught the end of it and noticed a joke I've never caught before.

At the end right after Aladdin free's Genie, he asks Al to make a wish, any wish, to ask for The Nile, as in the river, so Al wishes for The Nile and Genie says no, as in denying Al's wish, but really, he actually grants it cause it's like Al wished for "denial" which he got when Genie said no! Get it?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's the dialogue:
GENIE: Heh, heh! I'm free. I'm free. Quick, quick, wish for something outrageous. Say "I want the Nile." Wish for the Nile. Try that!

ALADDIN: I wish for the Nile.

GENIE: No way!!
You see?! It's HILARIOUS!! rotfl



*EDIT: I do feel that aspect ratio's are important, don't get me wrong. I just don't think there should be 50 different threads about it.
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xxhplinkxx wrote:Before Albert jumps down my throat, I did search and I'm very shocked/surprised/sad that there is no Aladdin Discussion thread. The only Aladdin threads that exist are all about the DVD and questions about it, sales and where to find them, and, hell, even Return of Jafar had a discussion thread! So I decided to start an official Aladdin discussion thread where we can just discuss the film, not the differences in aspect ratios, or whatever the heck you DVD nit-picks talk about! :p
I second that, (well I second leaving out the boring Aspect Ratio talk :P)

Aladdin lets see now...I like it, it's always stood out for me in my childhood years, I sort of grew up with Disney and Aladdin played a large factor in that, as did anything that came after it up until Emperors New Groove at the latest, maybe Atlantis...anyways I'm rambling about babble type things

I like Jafar and yet something about him used to irk me. I'm not too sure what it was but there was something about him I didn't care for. Now I'd rank him high as a good villain (especially compared to a certain yodeling cowboy).

That's it for now, for some reason I find discussing things easier once other people have started it instead of starting it myself :P I also did a search, the Search hates me it brought back tons of useless junk for me even though I did specify what I wanted :roll:
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I too only caught the second half. normally I wouldn't care, I own the DVD, but this time I was able to watch in HD. and it looked fantastic. makes the wait for blu ray even longer.

but was the audio a half second behind for everyone else? Ive been noticing this with a lot of HD movies recently. such as the incredibles, and Narnia (which aired on ABC family, but still).
I just want to know if its just me, comcast, the channels themselves or what. its really annoying though because as much as I want to see these in HD, I cant tolerate the audio being off. I deleted the incredibles off my dvr, and might do the same of the part of Aladdin I did catch.
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Chernabog_Rocks wrote:
I like Jafar and yet something about him used to irk me. I'm not too sure what it was but there was something about him I didn't care for. Now I'd rank him high as a good villain (especially compared to a certain yodeling cowboy).
Yeah, there's something about Jafar that's always annoyed me, too. I always disliked his design in particular, because his face is just awkward/comedic and hard to take seriously. I would say I hate him, but once he gets the lamp he becomes a much more entertaining villain. I guess he's only good when unrestricted. And I really like his maniacal laugh.

Overall, I would say Aladdin has the best battle/climax of any Disney film--you really get a sense that Jafar is invincible as he takes out all the characters one by one. I think I have the movie ranked #12 on my list, so it's definitely entertaining and I still have a lot of merchandise for the film from when I was a kid. But the only characters I really like are Aladdin and Iago. The rest of the cast ranges from the seriously annoying (Jasmine) to the moderately enjoyable (Genie, Jafar).

EDIT: I forgot all about the music! Of course, I love Menken's work for the film, "Prince Ali," "One Jump Ahead" and their reprises being my favorites. "A Whole New World" is a great melody, but I've always felt it's slightly overrated. Not that I think it's bad, but I hate hearing it all over the place as Disney's poster song. And maybe my dislike of Jasmine has a bit to do with it, too...
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Yeah, Aladdin is definitely my favorite of the DACs.

And I probably like the most songs in this movie percentage-wise to the other ones. Arabian Nights is the most amazing song ever, mainly because of how controversial it is/was :lol:

I don't ever, ever, even dare tune my TV to channel 26 (that's the steaming pile of garbage that bears a Disney Channel logo on it) but it's nice to know they were actually showing a decent movie for once. If it ever shows again I might ask my friend to record it in HD so I can 1-up the DVD :lol:
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I love, love, love Aladdin!!! It's my second favorite DAC. I used to watch that movie often when I was growing up (and when I had stopped growing, lol), and I still can watch it and enjoy it. Of course, now when I watch it, I know every little nuance, I guess, but it is not any less enjoyable.

Jasmine is my second favorite Disney character...I've just always liked how strong she is...she definitely has similar traits to Ariel and Belle (like wanting more out of life, to see "a whole new world", if you will), and I really like them, too, but I've just always really liked her. Maybe it's because she uses her sex appeal to get her way (like to prove that Prince Ali really was Aladdin!)...I don't know!

I love "A Whole New World". When I was younger, I'd often rewind the VHS tape back to that scene and watch it over and over again. Sometimes, I'd even pop the VHS tape in just to watch that scene!
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"Aladdin" is, along with "Beauty and the Beast", my favorite movie, Disney or non-Disney, live-action or animated. I just love everything about it: there are characters you can relate to, the villain is both funny and menacing, the music is amazing, the story works perfectly, the humor compliments the film and it doesn't clash with more serious aspects of the movie, and the animation is simply breathtaking.

Also, its sequels are among my favorite Disney sequels and they too don't take anything away from the movie, the characters' personalities are the same and they seem to develop more with each installment ("Return of Jafar", "The Series", "King of Thieves").

It's a shame it's often somewhat forgotten when people talk about Disney's '90s renaissance. "The Little Mermaid" is always mentioned as starting it, "Beauty and the Beast" will always be remembered as the first animated movie to get a Best Picture nod, and "The Lion King" is (unjustly) revered as the peak of '90s renaissance, even though "Aladdin" practically paved the way for it. It's kind of sad to imagine it being kicked out of Platinum Collection, when it has more right to be there than "Fantasia 2000" or even "The Jungle Book".

"Aladdin" PE/SE was also the first DVD I ever bought. Too bad "Proud of Your Boy" didn't fit with the existing storyline, because it's a great song. Maybe they can find a way of inserting it in a future edition of "Aladdin and the King of Thieves", it could fit there. But for the next Platinum/Special/whatever-it-is edition, I hope they animate Jasmine's "To Be Free" and put it into the movie, it would be a nice addition, she's still the only Disney Princess without a solo song.
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I like Aladdin very much although it's not one of my favorites.

I think Glen Keane animated Aladdin very sexily. I love his pecs! He's one of the handsomest Disney heroes.

I think the ST version of A Whole New World is MUCH better than the radio version with Peabo and Regina Whoever.

The stage version at DCA is great, although I don't care for Jasmine's new solo.

All the Aladdins I've seen at the parks have been super cute.

Iago gets of my nerves at times. I HATE that he and Zazu have taken over the Tiki Room at MK.

I think Disney overreacted to Arab pressure to change the lyrics to Arabian Nights. It was/is a violent culture. They still stone alleged adulterers and kill gay people.

I've never seen any of the sequels.

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From the pages of Scheherezade's 1001 Nights (and the films of Alexander Korda, Ray Harryhausen and the art of Al Hirschfeld,) came the beloved 1992 film version of Aladdin. Before falling in love with Batman, Superman or even Power Rangers, Aladdin was the first character and film I became obsessed with as a child. I had the action figures, and watched the Disney Channel animated series religiously. If one reads the original story today, many might be surprised how different it is from the "definitive" Disney film. Though gone are the Chinese setting, unlimited wishes and ring genie, the basic story is more or less, intact. The film's Middle Eastern backdrop of the mythical city of Agrabah, obviously makes sense when you consider the story's Arabian and Persian origins (unlike the Dreamworks version of Sinbad, which insultingly turned the fabled sailor's backdrop to Ancient Greece. No direspect to the Greeks or their culture, but if you're gonna do that, why not do an animated version of the Odyssey, or Jason and The Argonauts instead?) and the inclusion of the two genies in the original story always struck me as redundant.

I hadn't seen the film for years, and despite my admiration of classical animation, I wasn't really keeping up with Disney's latest "Platinum Edition" DVD. Now,l ast year TCM ran Alexander Korda's 1940 version of THE THIEF OF BAGDAD. I own the Fairbanks version, and had seen it many times, but I had never seen the much lauded remake until TCM aired it. The film was truly a treat, and was spectacular on every level. John Justin and Sabu are likable as the heroes; Conrad Veidt is wonderfully sinister (as always) as Jaffar; and Rex Ingram was one fantastically hammy jinn. And of course the sets, photography and costumes weren't too shabby either. But was I struck at how much it reminded me of my childhood favorite. If I didn't know better, I would think I was watching a (mostly) songless, live action version of the Disney film. Combine Justin's overthrown king, with Sabu's Abu, and you have Aladdin himself, right down to look and dress. Disney's Jafar shares the same position as the evil grand vizier-turned-alchemist as the character of the same name in the Korda film, as do the Princess and Sultan. Because of my new love for THIEF and the fact that I was on an Arabian Nights kick since buying THE 7th VOYAGE OF SINBAD on BD a few weeks earlier, I sought to track down my once favorite film on DVD.

Despite being out of print, a DVD copy wasn't too hard to find, and watching it brought back fond memories and a nostalgic sense of joy; but I couldn't help but consider that the similarities to THIEF make it little more than an animated musical adaptation of that film, with elements from the original Aladdin story thrown in to avoid a lawsuit. But really, who cares? Re-watching it really re-ignited by love of animation, and I look forward to it's release on BD.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:I love "A Whole New World". When I was younger, I'd often rewind the VHS tape back to that scene and watch it over and over again. Sometimes, I'd even pop the VHS tape in just to watch that scene!
When I was 15-16, I used to watch Aladdin so much I wore my VCR tape out! My mom gave me these huge speakers for my room, and I cranked the volume up and watched it over and over. I knew every single word to the movie by heart.

Of course, now I'm 32 and I can still remember every single word! My kids are amazed - I don't think they realize how big these Disney movies were as a part of my youth.
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I appericate the film in many ways, it was my 1st introduction to broad comedy, Genie and Aladdin's friendship echoed some of the fine art of character development.

The only complaint I have bout the film was Genie's exzubrant personal, yes I agree it was a splendid hybrid of "breakin the 4th wall" but for some reason, again this is my opinon, the exzubrant seemed too much, maybe they could've toned it down alil but all in all the character's personality worked quite magicaly.

Yesterday I was reading the TV Listing in my state's newspaper, Oregonian... and I was shocked to read the following description for Aladdin.

"A Genie helps a Baghad theif win the heart of a Princess"
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Am I the only on that like(d) the TV series better than the movie? I mean the movie was just a stand up routine for Williams but the TV series at least had monsters galore and Mosenrath with his creepy skeletal hand and such.

Characters are fun to meet in the parks though. Al said I looked like a younger version of him last time I went. I don't know why. I'm neither as athletic looking as he is or not white. Maybe it's the eyebrows?
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mooky_7_sa wrote:It's kind of sad to imagine it being kicked out of Platinum Collection
Yes, it damn well is. I just hope the blu-ray release of Aladdin makes MAJOR sales so they put it back into the platinum line. It's a shame too because of all the platinums, I always say that Aladdin had the best special features.
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Aladdin is my favorite movie of all time. My words cannot possibly give it justice, and if they could, I'd be typing way longer than I want to.

I caught the Disney Channel airing and I noticed something I never have before. Right when "A Whole New World" ends and Aladdin, Jasmine, and Carpet are chillin' on top of the building in China, something confused me.

Okay, so Jasmine deduces that "Prince Ali" is indeed the boy that she met and hung around with in the marketplace. If she knows that, why does she never question how he got out of Jafar's custody? Last she saw of him, he had been arrested by Razoul and taken away, and he was even "confirmed" to be beheaded by Jafar. Why does she not question any of this? That seemed like a pretty glaring plot point that needed addressing.

I suppose a possible excuse Aladdin could have come up with is that he "used his authority as royalty like Jasmine did to be set free," but he never gets a chance to make an excuse because Jasmine never questions how he's randomly alive when he was confirmed to be killed. I can't believe I've never noticed that before because it really needed to be addressed somehow.
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Pretty cool this thread is new, just watched Aladdin a couple days ago. I love Aladdin. This film is my favorite of all the Disney Animated features and one of my favorite films in general. I remember seeing it twice in theater way back when I was 4. Dang can't believe that was 16 years ago (17 in November) now. Aladdin was definitely my favorite action hero back in the day. All my childhood friends were into The Ninja Turtles and Batman except for me lol, I wanted to be Aladdin. Interestingly enough, Aladdin(alongside Alice in Wonderland) was the movie to respark my interest in Disney movies. It's also technically the start of my DAC's collection (Mom had Snow White PE and we already had Lilo), I bought it just after my 17th Birthday and after I re-watched it I couldn't believe that I hadn't seen it in about 9 years (old VHS tape got handed down to younger cousins, who now lost it...) and it looks so darned nice on DVD! Can't imagine how awesome its going to look on Blu-Ray.
Pasta67 wrote: Okay, so Jasmine deduces that "Prince Ali" is indeed the boy that she met and hung around with in the marketplace. If she knows that, why does she never question how he got out of Jafar's custody? Last she saw of him, he had been arrested by Razoul and taken away, and he was even "confirmed" to be beheaded by Jafar. Why does she not question any of this? That seemed like a pretty glaring plot point that needed addressing.
I guess she was just so happy to find out he was alive and okay she didn't care to think that he was supposed to be dead. Acutally now that I think of it...she was pissed off when it was confirmed he was the same guy. But then again she was super happy in that scene when he tosses her the apple during "A Whole New World"...so yeah, I suppose she completely forgot about the Jafar incident. Good point to bring up though, never really thought about that before. Or perhaps in making the movie it would have been too much for Aladdin to come up with another bad excuse. So many possible reasons as to why they didn't address that.

Anyway I wish Disneyland would make an Aladdin themed ride! They have that stage play at California Adventure, but I always thought some sort of rollercoaster or fast paced dark ride with an Aladdin theme would be pretty cool.
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Pasta67 wrote:Okay, so Jasmine deduces that "Prince Ali" is indeed the boy that she met and hung around with in the marketplace. If she knows that, why does she never question how he got out of Jafar's custody? Last she saw of him, he had been arrested by Razoul and taken away, and he was even "confirmed" to be beheaded by Jafar. Why does she not question any of this? That seemed like a pretty glaring plot point that needed addressing.
I believe there's something interesting in this book (if my memory is right): http://www.amazon.com/Princesses-Collec ... 949&sr=1-1

The Aladdin story is from Jasmine's point of view, and when she speaks to him about his identity on the roof and he apologizes, she decides to the rest let it go for the moment so as not to interrupt the romantic mood . . . she figures she can always ask about his escape from Jafar later. ;)

I wish I still had the thing. :p
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When ever I think of Disney's Aladdin, I think of this:

A,A,B,B,A,A,B,B,A

The fact I still remember it is pathetically sad. LOL



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Super Aurora wrote:I'll give you a cookie if you can guess what I'm referring to.
Level skip? :lol:
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It might be fun to try and rationalise, but Its a plot hole guys, lets just admit it.

I don't like it any less because of it, but it seems to be an obvious oversight on Disney's part to not have her ever address this.
Super Aurora wrote:When ever I think of Disney's Aladdin, I think of this:

A,A,B,B,A,A,B,B,A

The fact I still remember it is pathetically sad. LOL



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Aladdin's Platinum Edition was my very first Disney DVD. The film has always been a favorite of mine since I was little. Until the DVD came out, I had never seen the film in its original English version. I was immediately in love with it --with Robin Williams, Gilbert Gottfried, the songs, everything.

The only thing that still bothers me, is that in a good number of shots you can see Aladdin's hair grow longer and shorter, as sometimes they let in clips with the younger design of Aladdin. It's esecially apparent during 'Friend like me'. Now that's one of the setbacks of the Eisner-era: the tight budgets and not being able to make the film perfect.
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