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Why did the DVD exclude so many of the features from the laserdisc? I have been searching YouTube and found alot of features on the laserdisc that the DVD just abandoned. I was asking "Why?". I mean if it's already out there, why not just put it on the DVD then? Hopefully the Blu-Ray will improve on it. Does anyone know if there is a site with all of the Laserdisc extras? Thanks alot.

LOL, I've mentioned that laserdisc to other people before...

I do have a recorded copy of the CAV boxset laserdisc (well, someone I know does, and he gave me a copy of the DVD)... If I get a chance to ask him about uploading it, I will. I doubt the mods would be happy if I put a link here in the thread but I can PM people links if they want...

bambifan56 wrote:Why did the DVD exclude so many of the features from the laserdisc?

Because Disney is of the mindset that if it's old, it's not worth anything to Joe Sixpack and Jane Soccermom, the bulk of consumers who'll be buying the Platinums regardless of the special features.

bambifan56 wrote:Does anyone know if there is a site with all of the Laserdisc extras?

Here's a listing of the CAV laserdisc chapter index, courtesy of [url=http://www.disneyinfo.nl[/url]Disneyinfo.nl[/url]

Disc 1 - side 1
1. Program start
2. "Circle of life"
3. Scar
4. A new day dawns for young Simba
5. A chat with uncle Scar
6. "I just can't wait to be king"
7. At the elephant graveyard

Disc 1 - side 2
8. A father/son discussion
9. "Be prepared"
10. Scar's evil scheme
11. The stampede
12. Murder most foul
13. Simba on the run
14. Timon and Pumbaa find Simba
15. "Hakuna Matata"

Disc 2 - side 1
16. Scar in command
17. Pumbaa and Timon wax philosophical
18. The hunter hunted
19. United again ("Can you feel the love tonight")
20. A visit from Rafiki
21. A vision of Mufasa

Disc 2 - side 2
22. Simba returns to the Pride Lands
23. Simba's plan
24. The truth comes out
25. Simba confronts Scar
26. Simba assumes his rightful place
27. End credits ("Can you feel the love tonight")

Disc 3 - side 5: The making of TLK (27 minuten)
(hosted by Robert Guillaume)
28. Program start
29. The story
30. The characters and their voices
31. "A kings's domain" - Research and design
32. "More then meets the eye" - The animation in process
33. "Wounded pride" - Scar
34. "The music of TLK"
35. Conclusion

Disc 3 - side 6: Supplemental section (29 minuten)
36. Program start
37. Table of contents for sides 6, 7 & 8
38. History and development of TLK story
39. Sequence breakdown and storyboards introduction
40. Storyboard pitch: The reflection pool/Mufasa's ghost
41. Storyboards: Sequence 1 "Circle of life"
42. Storyboards: Sequence 4.2 "I just can't wait to be king"
43. Storyboards: Sequence 10 The stampede/Mufasa's death
44. Storyboards: Sequence 16 The reflection pool/Mufasa's ghost
45. Storyboards: Sequence 19 The fight
46. Storyboards to film comparison "Circle of life"
47. Music
48. Character design introduction
49. Character design Mufasa
50. Character design Simba
51. Character design Scar
52. Character design Rafiki
53. Character design Timon and Pumbaa
54. Character design Zazu
55. Character design Hyenas - Shenzi, Banzai and Ed
56. Character design Nala
57. Character design Sarabi and female lions
58. Character design miscellaneous

Disc 4 - side 7: Supplemental section (cont.) (28 minuten)
59. Table of contents for side 7
60. Preliminary designs and early concepts
61. Early concept: Simba's presentation
62. Early concept: Timon and Pumbaa find Simba
63. Early concept: "Warthog rapsody"
64. Early concept: "Hakuna Matata" (Timon's verse)
65. Early concept: Bug football
66. Early concept: "Be prepared" (reprise)
67. Early concept: "Can you feel the love tonight"
68. Early concept: Simba decides to return
69. Early concept: The fight
70. Art designs, layouts and backgrounds

Disc 4 - side 8: Supplemental section (cont.) (30 minuten)
71. Table of contents for side 8
72. Animation
-- analog track 1: commentary by Randy Fullmer
-- analog track 2: dialogue and effects only
73. Computer design
74. Publicity and international voices
75. Credits

Extra Info
* The full-length feature film The Lion King on 2 CAV discs!
* Second channel audio commentary by producer Don Hahn, and directors Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff!
* “The making of The Lion King” - Hosted by Robert Guillaume - An exclusive behind-the-scenes look at Disney’s all-time animation triumph!
* Over 80 minutes of additional bonus material exclusive to this laserdisc, including:
-- history and development of the original story
-- preliminary art and early concepts
-- art design, layours and backgrounds
-- original storyboard sequences
-- detailed character designs
-- plus, computer animation, trailers and much more!
* portfolio containing 6 lithographs of concept art from the film!
* 75 chapter stops!

I haven't watched my DVD of The Lion King in years (nor do I really wish to) though I know several brief featurettes from the DVD came from the laserdisc. Just don't remember which ones.

Also, please remember that the Search Option is your friend...

The Lion King laserdisc by DisneyChris, created June 24, 2006

albert

Just wondering--what Disney movies have had laserdiscs? I tried to search Gogle to check for myself, but it'll take me hours to sort through all the unhelpful crap when I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

This site will help you out: http://www.lddb.com/

Here's the stuff from The Lion King's LD that got transferred to DVD (highlighted in red):

* The Making of The Lion King

* History and Development of The Lion King Story 1

*Sequence Breakdown and Storyboards Introduction
* Storyboard Pitch: The reflection pool/Mufasa's ghost
* Storyboards: Sequence 1 "Circle of life"
* Storyboards: Sequence 4.2 "I just can't wait to be king"
* Storyboards: Sequence 10 The stampede/Mufasa's death
* Storyboards: Sequence 16 The reflection pool/Mufasa's ghost
* Storyboards: Sequence 19 The fight
* Storyboard to Film Comparison "Circle of life"

* Music

* Character Design Introduction
* Character design Mufasa
* Character Design Simba
* Character Design Scar
* Character Design Rafiki
* Character Design Timon and Pumbaa
* Character Design Zazu
* Character Design Hyenas - Shenzi, Banzai and Ed
* Character Design Nala
* Character Design Sarabi and Female Lions
* Character Design Miscellaneous

* Preliminary Designs and Early Concepts
* Early Concept: Simba's presentation
* Early Concept: Timon and Pumbaa find Simba
* Early Concept: "Warthog rapsody"
* Early Concept: "Hakuna Matata" (Timon's verse)
* Early Concept: Bug football
* Early Concept: "Be prepared" (reprise)
* Early Concept: "Can you feel the love tonight"
* Early Concept: Simba decides to return
* Early Concept: The fight
* Art Designs, Layouts and Backgrounds

* Animation
-- Analog Track 1: Commentary by Randy Fullmer
-- Analog Track 2: Dialogue and Effects Only
* Computer Design
* Publicity and International Voices 2

1. The DVD's early presentation reel may be within this chapter.
2. The DVD's multi-language reel may be within this chapter.

I also believe a lot of the "Music" featurette got carried over to the new one on the DVD (heck, it may even be the same one. I need to check). Either way, there's a lot missing, but this still doesn't hold a candle to what Alice's DVD left off.

If I'm not mistaken, the LD and PE DVD each had different early versions of CYFTLT. I think the DVD used an early version that involved Timon and Pumbaa, while the one on the LD used the version in which a small snippet was used in the trailer that appeared on the 1994 VHS of The Fox And The Hound. I could be wrong and just didn't find that one on the DVD (which I rented from Blockbuster, as I never got it when it was in stores), but I did find the one with Timon and Pumbaa on there.

my chicken is infected wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the LD and PE DVD each had different early versions of CYFTLT. I think the DVD used an early version that involved Timon and Pumbaa, while the one on the LD used the version in which a small snippet was used in the trailer that appeared on the 1994 VHS of The Fox And The Hound. I could be wrong and just didn't find that one on the DVD (which I rented from Blockbuster, as I never got it when it was in stores), but I did find the one with Timon and Pumbaa on there.

Here's the trailer from the TF&tH VHS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlsg1UkYMWc

Wikipedia says this:
Later, the song was planned to be sung this time only by Simba and Nala but in the end the idea was scrapped again
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_You_Fe ... ve_Tonight )

Could that possibly be the version in that trailer?

Oh, wow, I stand corrected. I edited my post to reflect that. Thanks!

The one in the trailer on the F&TH VHS is definitely the early version from the laserdisc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmyhGFzxAM

And this is the one from the DVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2TWCZR7w_0

I'm hoping the next DVD and the Blu-Ray will have both versions. It's really unacceptable that the one that a lot of people even feel is superior to the final version was left off. (Not to mention no real making-of documentary and no trailers.)

I have the LD and the DVD and I can confirm that both versions of "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" were on the laserdisk. I can only imagine that they only picked the Timon and Puumba version for the DVD since little kids are likely to laugh at that.

my chicken is infected wrote:The one in the trailer on the F&TH VHS is definitely the early version from the laserdisc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmyhGFzxAM

Thank you so much for posting that!!! I love it!!!!

Disney's Divinity wrote:Just wondering--what Disney movies have had laserdiscs? I tried to search Gogle to check for myself, but it'll take me hours to sort through all the unhelpful crap when I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

In short: Most of the "classics" (up until the late 90s) were available on LD at one time or another, but quality, number of features and so on vary quite a lot.

As for The Lion King, I've always thought the extras on the DVD were quite a mess, so at least in that particular respect I tend to prefer the LD.