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So, I've got all the Disney Animated Classics. (With the exception of a full uncensored Fantasia, for the obvious reason that IT WASN'T RELEASED... and Saludos Amigos for, well, read below) One way or another... most from DVD, if they had edits, they were reversed using a previous release.
Others like Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King entirely from the laserdisc.

Now I figured it's time to start collecting extra features.

Now, the next on my list to get is the Archive collection of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros for two reasons: One, both DVDs I have of Saludos are still edited (the GCC R1 and some random PAL disc someone sent me), and two, I've heard it has a load of extras that never made it to DVD.

So I just thought I'd ask. What other movies have *good* extras that weren't released on DVD by Disney? I know Snow White has one of those Archive collection releases, but the Platinum Edition DVD of Snow White has a ton of stuff too. Does the laserdisc have anything that didn't make it to the DVD?

So if anyone knows, or has any specific titles they know of (and if you want to see those extras, once I get the laserdisc, let me know!), can you let me know?

I have often thought that same question. I mean, there were some awesome laserdisc releases from Disney that for some reason haven't been equaled on DVD. I think Albert has a thread going with some of this info in it. He'd probably be a good one to ask.

I know that the 'special feature loaded' ones were laserdiscs in something called "The Archives Collection" (i.e. the Saludos Amigos/Three Caballeros, etc). I know that the following titles had deluxe laserdisc treatment, but I don't know which special features have been ported over to DVD and which haven't:

Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (I love the 2 disc DVD set, but I don't know if it is missing anything from this deluxe laserdisc release...trailers?)
TRON (same as 20,000 Leagues above)
Cinderella
Pocahontas
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Alice in Wonderland


Maybe Bedknobs and Broomsticks?

I know that the "Something Wicked This Way Comes" laserdisc has a much sought after audio commentary from Ray Bradbury, but I don't know what other special features it has on it (perhaps some deleted scenes? another cut of the film?)


I'd be interested to hear how your search for special features goes....and I would TOTALLY be interested in getting my hands on a DVD version of the Saludos/Caballeros Archive Collection stuff.





EDIT:

I just thought of a few more. I know that the Brazilian DVD release of So Dear to My Heart has some newly discovered footage narrated on it. It is missing from the DMC Exclusive DVD released here in the States. Also the Brazilian DVD release of Flight of the Navigator I believe has the original theatrical trailer on it (devoid from our release as well).

I know that the Peter Pan DVD release in France had some extra stuff that was left off our Platinum release. I wonder if there are other DVDs that have special features that aren't released in R1?


EDIT AGAIN:

The original R1 releases of The Fox and the Hound and The Aristocats I believe both had original theatrical trailers on them that have since been dropped off current DVD releases.

Plus the recent Saludos/Caballeros DVD set has some 5 minute Walt interview that I don't believe is on the Archive Collection laserdisc (if you're looking for the COMPLETE canvas of bonus features).

drfsupercenter wrote:Now, the next on my list to get is the Archive collection of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros for two reasons: One, both DVDs I have of Saludos are still edited (the GCC R1 and some random PAL disc someone sent me), and two, I've heard it has a load of extras that never made it to DVD.

I've got the Archive Collection of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros - yes, it is loaded with bonus feaures -- and no, don't bother sending me a PM, because I deplore piracy.

That Disney Fella! wrote:I have often thought that same question. I mean, there were some awesome laserdisc releases from Disney that for some reason haven't been equaled on DVD. I think Albert has a thread going with some of this info in it. He'd probably be a good one to ask.

I remember a lot of old laserdisc threads that UD had, though I can't look for them right now. But I know that most answers can be found at disneyinfo.nl, a site which had a section devoted to Disney laserdiscs. There was also a great French site that had large scans of the laserdisc covers, but I can't remember the URL. UD member mvealf also has a Disney laserdisc site, which is accessible from the www link in his profile.

I'm fairly certain I have a list on my computer somewhere of all the laserdisc material that hasn't been carried over to DVD. When I find it, I'll post it.

That Disney Fella! wrote:I know that the 'special feature loaded' ones were laserdiscs in something called "The Archives Collection" (i.e. the Saludos Amigos/Three Caballeros, etc).

Exclusive Archive Collection.

Exclusive Archive Collection:
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
Alice In Wonderland
Donald Duck - A Star Is Born
Mary Poppins
Mickey Mouse - The Black And White Years - Volume One
Swiss Family Robinson
The Three Caballeros & Saludos Amigos
Tron

Deluxe Edition:
Aladdin
Cinderella
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Fantasia
The Lion King
Pinocchio
Pocahontas
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Toy Story

Limited Edition:
Bambi: 55th Anniversary
Fun And Fancy Free: 50th Anniversary Limited Edition
Mary Poppins: Limited Edition
Peter Pan: 45th Anniversary Limited Edition
The Jungle Book: 30th Anniversary Limited Edition

Other Names:
Bedknobs and Broomsticks: 25th Anniversary Special Edition
Lady And The Tramp: Collector's Edition
Old Yeller: 40th Anniversary Edition
Scream: Director's Cut
The Little Mermaid: Collector's Edition

That Disney Fella wrote:I know that the "Something Wicked This Way Comes" laserdisc has a much sought after audio commentary from Ray Bradbury, but I don't know what other special features it has on it (perhaps some deleted scenes? another cut of the film?)

The laserdisc also included an isolated track of James Horner's score for the film. Also, according to the back of the cover, the commentary includes Ray Bradbury as well as cinematographer Stephen Burum and special effects consultant Harrison Ellenshaw. Which is odd, because aside from the laserdisc cover I found at disneyinfo.nl, no other site mentions that Burum and Ellenshaw are on the commentary. Either way, it's a pity it wasn't included on either the Anchor Bay disc or the Disney disc. It's a title that definitely screams Two-Disc Special Edition. There's so much potential for extras:

Disc One could contain the original cut of the film, with Georges Delerue's score and without the added/refilmed scenes that were shot later. Also, it could include deleted scenes that weren't included in either version of the film as supplements, as well as the 1983 TV special.

Disc Two could have the laserdisc commentary as well as a new one (Jonathan Pryce and Jason Robards? Or the two kids, now all grown up). It could also include a new documentary about the "dark" time for Disney and the making of the film as a way to branch out, an interview with Ray Bradbury (who is STILL ALIVE) about his thoughts on the film (as he wasn't too happy with the finished re-filmed film), and of course, the theatrical trailer.

That Disney Fella! wrote:I know that the Brazilian DVD release of So Dear to My Heart has some newly discovered footage narrated on it. It is missing from the DMC Exclusive DVD released here in the States.

Which is a pity, as the Brazilian DVD uses the original Gold Classic Collection cover art that R1 was supposed to get when the film was originally scheduled for release. The other regions use different cover art.

Have you imported the Brazilian version, fella? I've been meaning to for some time now via Amazon Marketplace, but never really got around to it (mainly because as wonderful as So Dear to My Heart is, I'm not that anxious to add it to my collection ASAP)

That Disney Fella! wrote:I know that the Peter Pan DVD release in France had some extra stuff that was left off our Platinum release.

Namely the 1924 silent film version and a 27-minute featurette narrated by John Canemaker all about the Nine Old Men.

That Disney Fella! wrote:I wonder if there are other DVDs that have special features that aren't released in R1?

Off the top of my head:

Pinocchio - R2/R4 SE's have a brief 5-minute featurette (easily found on youtube), a storyboard-to-film comparison, a couple bonus cartoons (Figaro, Jiminy, etc.), and a game.

Make Mine Music - one of the R2 releases includes Martins and the Coys (can't remember which). Can't remember if "All the Cats Join In" is altered or unaltered (breast reduction).

Melody Time - R2 has Pecos Bill unedited.

Peter Pan - 1924 silent Film and 27-minute Nine Old Men featurette (R2 France, R2 Japan)

The Aristocats - Sherman Brothers featurette (now on R1 SE)

The Fox and the Hound - Passing the Baton featurette (now on R1 AE)

The Rescuers Down Under - R2 and R4 have a 10-minute making-of featurette (easily found on youtube)

Pocahontas - pencil animation for "If I Never Knew You" and a few other brief pieces from the laserdisc set.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame - R2 and R4 have several brief laserdisc pieces (they don't have the TV special or commentary like R1).

Hercules - "Art Attack" featurette and video gallery.

Lilo & Stitch - R2 UK has an additional music video, everyone except R1 have the audio commentary and the second disc with the hours of bonus features. (hopefully this all changes in March!)

Chicken Little - R2 UK had a special preview DVD released in a newspaper or magazine (I forget which) that included the trailer, some TV spots, and a few other little bonuses (can't remember what)

That's just the DACs, though. I know that there are some live-action titles that get better treatment (mainly OAR widescreen). For example, the Norwegian DVD for Håkon Håkonsen (a.k.a. Shipwrecked) is the original Nordic/English version (all other regions, including US, is the International version with all scenes in English) and includes a making-of featurette and the trailer.

That Disney Fella! wrote:The original R1 releases of The Fox and the Hound and The Aristocats I believe both had original theatrical trailers on them that have since been dropped off current DVD releases.

They were actually re-release trailers, not the original theatrical ones. What's strange is the BBFC passed trailers and TV spots as extra features for The Fox and the Hound, though Disney ultimately decided not to include them in any of the re-releases.

That Disney Fella! wrote:Plus the recent Saludos/Caballeros DVD set has some 5 minute Walt interview that I don't believe is on the Archive Collection laserdisc (if you're looking for the COMPLETE canvas of bonus features).

Sadly, it's not even 5 minutes. It's a little under 2 minutes and its brief inclusion (instead of a couple of the EAC features) is rather pathetic. Of course, what was more pathetic and a huge missed opportunity is that Disney didn't include the new documentary Walt and El Grupo (unless they don't have the rights to it?) in the 2008 DVD.

albert

I just thought of a few more. I know that the Brazilian DVD release of So Dear to My Heart has some newly discovered footage narrated on it. It is missing from the DMC Exclusive DVD released here in the States. Also the Brazilian DVD release of Flight of the Navigator I believe has the original theatrical trailer on it (devoid from our release as well).

I'll see what I can do. I don't even belong to Disney Movie Club, but I can probably get my hands on one either way. I take it the actual movie track is the same? If I don't have to slow everything down by 4%, it would be preferred. (But then again, I think Brazil uses "PAL 60" which is basically the same as NTSC)

The original R1 releases of The Fox and the Hound and The Aristocats I believe both had original theatrical trailers on them that have since been dropped off current DVD releases.

OK, well I *only* have the originals of both... The Fox and the Hound's new one looked identical... and Aristocats was cropped.

I've got the Archive Collection of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros - yes, it is loaded with bonus feaures -- and no, don't bother sending me a PM, because I deplore piracy.

I knew that one had bonus features, that's why it's next on my list. I was planning on buying it anyway, it's just one of those things I like to get my hands on when I can find it at LDDB Marketplace or similar

Exclusive Archive Collection:
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
Alice In Wonderland
Donald Duck - A Star Is Born
Mary Poppins
Mickey Mouse - The Black And White Years - Volume One
Swiss Family Robinson
The Three Caballeros & Saludos Amigos
Tron

I found most of those when looking around eBay shops... but I'm not sure about the actual features found on them. I have the 2-disc DVD set of Tron, and that is also loaded with extras. I know 20,000 Leagues also has a similar set to Tron. I wonder if there's a website somewhere that lists out all the bonus features? (I can get photos of the back of the boxes, but those aren't always complete)

Disc Two could have the laserdisc commentary as well as a new one (Jonathan Pryce and Jason Robards? Or the two kids, now all grown up). It could also include a new documentary about the "dark" time for Disney and the making of the film as a way to branch out, an interview with Ray Bradbury (who is STILL ALIVE) about his thoughts on the film (as he wasn't too happy with the finished re-filmed film), and of course, the theatrical trailer.

The problem with putting commentaries on a second disc is that you need a video track to go along with it. Which is why virtually any movie that has a commentary has it on the movie disc, not the special features disc.

Make Mine Music - one of the R2 releases includes Martins and the Coys (can't remember which). Can't remember if "All the Cats Join In" is altered or unaltered (breast reduction).

I have one totally uncut. I think it's from Sweden or Finland, somewhere like that.

Melody Time - R2 has Pecos Bill unedited.

Yep. That too.

Peter Pan - 1924 silent Film and 27-minute Nine Old Men featurette (R2 France, R2 Japan)

I can easily get the R2 Japan... plus it'll be NTSC.

Escapay wrote:I'm fairly certain I have a list on my computer somewhere of all the laserdisc material that hasn't been carried over to DVD. When I find it, I'll post it.

That would be mad cool. I thought about starting a list a while ago, but then I sort of........didn't ::shrugs:: Perhaps now is as good a time as any to start canvassing all available features out there

Escapay about Somethign Wicked This Way Comes wrote:Disc One could contain the original cut of the film, with Georges Delerue's score and without the added/refilmed scenes that were shot later. Also, it could include deleted scenes that weren't included in either version of the film as supplements, as well as the 1983 TV special.

Disc Two could have the laserdisc commentary as well as a new one (Jonathan Pryce and Jason Robards? Or the two kids, now all grown up). It could also include a new documentary about the "dark" time for Disney and the making of the film as a way to branch out, an interview with Ray Bradbury (who is STILL ALIVE) about his thoughts on the film (as he wasn't too happy with the finished re-filmed film), and of course, the theatrical trailer.

That would be awesome. I read somewhere that Ray Bradbury DOES in fact have a different print of the film that he would show to people at his house on occasion. I don't know how it differs from the original cut (before all the special effects changes), or what Jack Clayton's original vision of the film was....but every known cut would be an interesting inclusion: along with every known deleted scene so all the fans could make their favorite cuts of the film ...lol

btw - I thought Ray Bradbury passed away? Was it just a rumor? I could have sworn I read an article about it because I thought, "Well, Disney missed their chance again for some input on their film history" (a la Suzanne Pleshett).

Escapay wrote: Have you imported the Brazilian version, fella? I've been meaning to for some time now via Amazon Marketplace, but never really got around to it (mainly because as wonderful as So Dear to My Heart is, I'm not that anxious to add it to my collection ASAP)

I haven't imported it yet, for pretty much the same reason as you. I was originally hoping that I wouldn't have to when I heard that the DMC was releasing a copy of it on DVD with special features. However, now I'm specifically NOT buying the DMC exlusive because it is lacking

Escapay wrote: That's just the DACs, though. I know that there are some live-action titles that get better treatment (mainly OAR widescreen). For example, the Norwegian DVD for Håkon Håkonsen (a.k.a. Shipwrecked) is the original Nordic/English version (all other regions, including US, is the International version with all scenes in English) and includes a making-of featurette and the trailer.

That would be amazing!!! I want it, I want it, I want it!!!! I've never heard of this release before!!!! And the original audio track of the film is in Nordic? Was it meant to be? Is there subtitles on this disc?



EDIT: I just found some awesome clips on YOUTUBE I thought I'd share. This is the alternate opening which goes much better with Patrick Doyle's music. Somehow the American opening never really went to the music........now I know why!!! I never even knew there was another version of this film!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsdX9V5c2cs

Also here is another clip from later in the film which indicates that the original audio with the Nordic does NOT have any subtitles. Strangely enough, I'd still like to have a copy of it. I feel like it would be more intense if Hakon spoke Nordic and English where appropriate. His character would be that much cooler! Also, perhaps a fan could add a subtitle track later on and release the original Nordic version for American audiences

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KrDRUvTRo

drfsupercenter wrote:

I just thought of a few more. I know that the Brazilian DVD release of So Dear to My Heart has some newly discovered footage narrated on it. It is missing from the DMC Exclusive DVD released here in the States. Also the Brazilian DVD release of Flight of the Navigator I believe has the original theatrical trailer on it (devoid from our release as well).

I'll see what I can do. I don't even belong to Disney Movie Club, but I can probably get my hands on one either way. I take it the actual movie track is the same? If I don't have to slow everything down by 4%, it would be preferred. (But then again, I think Brazil uses "PAL 60" which is basically the same as NTSC)

I think the Brazilian DVDs are already in NTSC format. I don't think they need any conversion at all and may even play on R1 players. I'm not for certain.

I think the Brazilian DVDs are already in NTSC format. I don't think they need any conversion at all and may even play on R1 players. I'm not for certain.

Ok, well, I know Brazil technically uses PAL, but I think it's comparable to NTSC over here.
As far as the regions go, they would undoubtedly be region 4... though making DVDs region free is no big deal, it's the converting them to NTSC that can take a while if it's needed.

I'll raid eBay later and see what I find

drf wrote:

Exclusive Archive Collection:
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
Alice In Wonderland
Donald Duck - A Star Is Born
Mary Poppins
Mickey Mouse - The Black And White Years - Volume One
Swiss Family Robinson
The Three Caballeros & Saludos Amigos
Tron

I found most of those when looking around eBay shops... but I'm not sure about the actual features found on them. I have the 2-disc DVD set of Tron, and that is also loaded with extras. I know 20,000 Leagues also has a similar set to Tron. I wonder if there's a website somewhere that lists out all the bonus features? (I can get photos of the back of the boxes, but those aren't always complete)

http://www.disneyinfo.nl

drf wrote:

Disc Two could have the laserdisc commentary as well as a new one (Jonathan Pryce and Jason Robards? Or the two kids, now all grown up). It could also include a new documentary about the "dark" time for Disney and the making of the film as a way to branch out, an interview with Ray Bradbury (who is STILL ALIVE) about his thoughts on the film (as he wasn't too happy with the finished re-filmed film), and of course, the theatrical trailer.

The problem with putting commentaries on a second disc is that you need a video track to go along with it. Which is why virtually any movie that has a commentary has it on the movie disc, not the special features disc.

Yeah, I meant to say that Disc Two could have the theatrical version of the film with the laserdisc commentary and a new one. I don't know why I forgot to mention that little bit.

That Disney Fella! wrote:btw - I thought Ray Bradbury passed away? Was it just a rumor? I could have sworn I read an article about it because I thought, "Well, Disney missed their chance again for some input on their film history" (a la Suzanne Pleshett).

I know, I thought so too, but he's still alive and kickin' at 88.

That Disney Fella! wrote:That would be amazing!!! I want it, I want it, I want it!!!! I've never heard of this release before!!!! And the original audio track of the film is in Nordic? Was it meant to be? Is there subtitles on this disc?

It's not just the audio, it's actual scenes filmed in Nordic!

After I bought the P&S version at Best Buy (it had slipped my mind at the time that it was P&S, plus it was pretty cheap), I youtubed it to see if I could find any widescreen clips to compare it to, and instead found the youtube links you found too! So I did a little bit of digging (as well as a trip to the International DVD forum!) and found that the Norwegian DVD is the only one that contains the original Nordic/English version, where scenes were filmed in Nordic (the international version has the scenes re-filmed in English).

So, against my better judgment, I downloaded a torrent of it (and it's quite good actually, 16:9 and near-DVD quality) just to see the scenes properly. The English scenes have burnt-in Nordic subtitles though (while the Nordic scenes have no subtitles). I'm not sure if the Norwegian DVD has English subtitles though (but I hope they do so that when I finally do get around to going multi-region and import, I'll know what they're saying).

Anyway, I'm putting together a short video to show some of the differences between the two versions. When it's done I'll post the link here.

ETA:

Here it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWB3RAUHlBw

albert

So, against my better judgment, I downloaded a torrent of it (and it's quite good actually, 16:9 and near-DVD quality) just to see the scenes properly. The English scenes have burnt-in Nordic subtitles though (while the Nordic scenes have no subtitles). I'm not sure if the Norwegian DVD has English subtitles though (but I hope they do so that when I finally do get around to going multi-region and import, I'll know what they're saying).

I know someone who lives in Norway... I can bug them for an ISO file if I get a chance

I've never even heard of the movie, though, I'm just doing it for collecting's sake!

And I'll check out that site...

The Alice In Wonderland EAC laserdisc has a boatload of audio and visual extras that were left off of the Masterpiece Edition DVD release. That's some stuff I'd personally LOVE to get my hands on one of these days.

I've posted this before, but now seems like a good time for me to post/rant again. Here's the complete list of features on the Alice in Wonderland laserdisc. Everything in red didn't make it onto the Masterpiece Edition DVD. Everything in violet make it onto that edition in partial form. The extra descriptions are taken directly off the back cover listing.

History
* The History of Alice in Wonderland
* Sir John Tenniel's Illustrations for the Lewis Carroll books
* An Alice Comedy: Alice's Wonderland (1923)
* A Mickey Mouse Cartoon: Thru the Mirror (1936)
* 1939 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version (Artwork by David Hall and Ray Jacobs)
* 1943 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version
* Final Sequence Breakdown
* Deleted Storyboard Concept: Alice Daydreams in the Park

Song Demos
* The Caucus Race
* I'm Late (Song Demo)
* I'm Late (Test)
* The Unbirthday Song
* "Tea Party" Dialogue
* Alice in Wonderland
* In a World of My Own (Piano Instrumental)
* In a World of My Own (Song Demo)
* Dream Caravan
* If You'll Believe in Me
* The Jabberwocky Song
* Beware the Jabberwock
* Twas Brillig (Piano Instrumental)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 1 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #1)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 3 (Version #1)
* Garden of Live Flowers Dialogue Sequence
* Rose Garden Scene
* How Doth the Little Crocodile
* Paul Frees Audition: Dodo Bird
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #1
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #2
* The Lion and the Unicorn
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Song Demo)
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Gloria Donovan Audition)
* Everything Has a Useness
* Instrumental Demo
* "Dance" Instrumental Demo
* "Entrance of the Walrus and the Carpenter" Instrumental Demo
* Alice and the Cheshire Cat
* Gavotte of the Cards
* Mock Turle Soup Song
* So They Say
* Humpty Dumpty
* Entrance of the Executioner
* When the Wind is in the East
* Braham's Lullabye Kathryn Beaumont Test
* Beautiful Soup
* The Carpenter is Sleeping
* Speak Roughly to Your Little Boy
* Will You Join the Dance
* Finale

Galleries
* Design Concepts by Mary Blair
* Design Concepts: Wonderland
* Design Concepts: Tulgey Wood
* Character Design: Alice
* Character Design: The White Rabbit
* Character Design: The Queen of Hearts
* Character Design: Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
* Character Design: Flowers
* Character Design: The Cheshire Cat
* Character Design: The Mad Hatter
* Character Design: The Caterpillar
* Character Design: Miscellaneous Characters
* Character Design: Deleted Characters
* Main Title Designs
* Photo Gallery: Live-Action Reference Filming
* Photo Gallery: Studio Production
* Voice Talent

Publicity
* Posters
* Lobby Cards
* Press Book
* Trailers

Walt Disney TV Introductions
* Disneyland Television Show (Excerpt) Original Airdate: November 3, 1954
* The Wonderful World of Color (Excerpt) Original Airdate: December 20, 1964

* One Hour in Wonderland
Originally Broadcast on ABC on December 25, 1950

* The Fred Waring Show (Excerpt)
Original Broadcast Date: March 18, 1951

* Operation Wonderland (1951 Promotional Film)
Originally Broadcast on "Ford Star Revue" June 14, 1951

* "Alice in Wonderland" BBC Radio Broadcast of July 4, 1951.
One Hour radio dramatization with Walt Disney and Kathryn Beaumont.

* BBC Christmas Radio Broadcast (1951)
Pre-recorded in California for broadcast by the BBC at Christmastime in 1951, this show features Kathryn Beaumont (the voice of Alice) and Walt Disney, who also provides the voice of Mickey Mouse. It was recorded as separate segments that introduced songs from classic Disney movies. The material included for presentation here (the segments setting up the songs) is all that's known to survive of this show.

So to sum it up, all of the video features (except the "Final Sequence Breakdown") made it to DVD. That deletion aggravates me, though, since the final chase sequence is actually my favorite scene in the film.

In terms of everything else, most of the audio and still features were dropped. Because of all the violet coloring, it may seem like quite a bit of the galleries made it, but in reality, each section only had 1 or 2 stills representing it on DVD when the LD has dozens for each.

I used to be absolutely enraged at the amount of missing material, but after seeing how shamefully Disney treated Peter Pan (a freaking Platinum title, for crying out loud), Alice's set came across a lot more favorably. I really, truly hope that most of these features will make it on the Blu-ray disc. To be honest, I'm at the point where I don't care if every feature is ported over. If Disney can just give me all the video features (including that missing sequence breakdown) more than half of the audio and stills, and a new documentary to go along with these, I'll be very satisfied.

I know the Snow White laserdisc set had a bunch of stuff that didn't make it to the DVD, like a ton of still images in the "Marketing" area, and some audio tracks (song tests, etc.)

The Toy Story set had the original "HUGE... tracts of land" version of Knick Knack (I think that's it, the Pixar short with the snowglobe) instead of the newly reshot "flatchested" version that was on Finding Nemo.

That *MAY* have been on the Ultimate Toy Chest, as well.

The Santa Clause laserdisc had the scene "1-800-Pound-Me" that was removed because of stupid parents.

This should become a good resource for those looking to buy the LDs. I saw a "Peter Pan" and "The Little Mermaid" Laser at Goodwill, both for $9.99, but they must not have any sort of unique bonus features to make them valuable because I saw their e-bay re-sale value was about how much I would have paid for them.

Well, some people don't realize just how rare the stuff they're selling is.

I know for movies like Peter Pan, there are a bunch of "barebones" LDs... which are basically the same as the VHS. (Only for movies like Beauty and the Beast, they're in widescreen)

That's why I got both sets of The Lion King (I first just wanted a cheap one to get the OTV of the movie... I later found that deluxe collector's set for about $10... which is an insanely good price, obviously the guy didn't know what he was missing out on )

littlefuzzy wrote:That *MAY* have been on the Ultimate Toy Chest, as well.

Yeah, I have the Ultimate Toy Box set from 2001 and can verify that the short is in its original form there. It wasn't until the short was attached to Finding Nemo in 2003 that it was edited down.

A while back I found scans of the back covers from different Disney LDs, all of which give a complete bonus material listing (warning, a few of them have very loud music accompanying them; you might want to turn your sound down):

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Pinocchio
Cinderella
Peter Pan
Sleeping Beauty
The Little Mermaid
The Lion King
Pocahontas
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Mary Poppins
Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Toy Story

The only really comprehensive sets missing above are Alice (which I already posted the complete listing for) and Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros (which I haven't been able to find anywhere).

Disneykid wrote:I've posted this before, but now seems like a good time for me to post/rant again. Here's the complete list of features on the Alice in Wonderland laserdisc. Everything in red didn't make it onto the Masterpiece Edition DVD. Everything in violet make it onto that edition in partial form. The extra descriptions are taken directly off the back cover listing.

History
* The History of Alice in Wonderland
* Sir John Tenniel's Illustrations for the Lewis Carroll books
* An Alice Comedy: Alice's Wonderland (1923)
* A Mickey Mouse Cartoon: Thru the Mirror (1936)
* 1939 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version (Artwork by David Hall and Ray Jacobs)
* 1943 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version
* Final Sequence Breakdown
* Deleted Storyboard Concept: Alice Daydreams in the Park

Song Demos
* The Caucus Race
* I'm Late (Song Demo)
* I'm Late (Test)
* The Unbirthday Song
* "Tea Party" Dialogue
* Alice in Wonderland
* In a World of My Own (Piano Instrumental)
* In a World of My Own (Song Demo)
* Dream Caravan
* If You'll Believe in Me
* The Jabberwocky Song
* Beware the Jabberwock
* Twas Brillig (Piano Instrumental)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 1 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #1)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 3 (Version #1)
* Garden of Live Flowers Dialogue Sequence
* Rose Garden Scene
* How Doth the Little Crocodile
* Paul Frees Audition: Dodo Bird
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #1
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #2
* The Lion and the Unicorn
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Song Demo)
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Gloria Donovan Audition)
* Everything Has a Useness
* Instrumental Demo
* "Dance" Instrumental Demo
* "Entrance of the Walrus and the Carpenter" Instrumental Demo
* Alice and the Cheshire Cat
* Gavotte of the Cards
* Mock Turle Soup Song
* So They Say
* Humpty Dumpty
* Entrance of the Executioner
* When the Wind is in the East
* Braham's Lullabye Kathryn Beaumont Test
* Beautiful Soup
* The Carpenter is Sleeping
* Speak Roughly to Your Little Boy
* Will You Join the Dance
* Finale

Galleries
* Design Concepts by Mary Blair
* Design Concepts: Wonderland
* Design Concepts: Tulgey Wood
* Character Design: Alice
* Character Design: The White Rabbit
* Character Design: The Queen of Hearts
* Character Design: Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
* Character Design: Flowers
* Character Design: The Cheshire Cat
* Character Design: The Mad Hatter
* Character Design: The Caterpillar
* Character Design: Miscellaneous Characters
* Character Design: Deleted Characters
* Main Title Designs
* Photo Gallery: Live-Action Reference Filming
* Photo Gallery: Studio Production
* Voice Talent

Publicity
* Posters
* Lobby Cards
* Press Book
* Trailers

Walt Disney TV Introductions
* Disneyland Television Show (Excerpt) Original Airdate: November 3, 1954
* The Wonderful World of Color (Excerpt) Original Airdate: December 20, 1964

* One Hour in Wonderland
Originally Broadcast on ABC on December 25, 1950

* The Fred Waring Show (Excerpt)
Original Broadcast Date: March 18, 1951

* Operation Wonderland (1951 Promotional Film)
Originally Broadcast on "Ford Star Revue" June 14, 1951

* "Alice in Wonderland" BBC Radio Broadcast of July 4, 1951.
One Hour radio dramatization with Walt Disney and Kathryn Beaumont.

* BBC Christmas Radio Broadcast (1951)
Pre-recorded in California for broadcast by the BBC at Christmastime in 1951, this show features Kathryn Beaumont (the voice of Alice) and Walt Disney, who also provides the voice of Mickey Mouse. It was recorded as separate segments that introduced songs from classic Disney movies. The material included for presentation here (the segments setting up the songs) is all that's known to survive of this show.

So to sum it up, all of the video features (except the "Final Sequence Breakdown") made it to DVD. That deletion aggravates me, though, since the final chase sequence is actually my favorite scene in the film.

In terms of everything else, most of the audio and still features were dropped. Because of all the violet coloring, it may seem like quite a bit of the galleries made it, but in reality, each section only had 1 or 2 stills representing it on DVD when the LD has dozens for each.

I used to be absolutely enraged at the amount of missing material, but after seeing how shamefully Disney treated Peter Pan (a freaking Platinum title, for crying out loud), Alice's set came across a lot more favorably. I really, truly hope that most of these features will make it on the Blu-ray disc. To be honest, I'm at the point where I don't care if every feature is ported over. If Disney can just give me all the video features (including that missing sequence breakdown) more than half of the audio and stills, and a new documentary to go along with these, I'll be very satisfied.

How much of the 1939/1943 storyboards made it onto the Masterpiece edition?

Disneykid wrote:I've posted this before, but now seems like a good time for me to post/rant again. Here's the complete list of features on the Alice in Wonderland laserdisc. Everything in red didn't make it onto the Masterpiece Edition DVD. Everything in violet make it onto that edition in partial form. The extra descriptions are taken directly off the back cover listing.

History
* The History of Alice in Wonderland
* Sir John Tenniel's Illustrations for the Lewis Carroll books
* An Alice Comedy: Alice's Wonderland (1923)
* A Mickey Mouse Cartoon: Thru the Mirror (1936)
* 1939 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version (Artwork by David Hall and Ray Jacobs)
* 1943 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version
* Final Sequence Breakdown
* Deleted Storyboard Concept: Alice Daydreams in the Park

Song Demos
* The Caucus Race
* I'm Late (Song Demo)
* I'm Late (Test)
* The Unbirthday Song
* "Tea Party" Dialogue
* Alice in Wonderland
* In a World of My Own (Piano Instrumental)
* In a World of My Own (Song Demo)
* Dream Caravan
* If You'll Believe in Me
* The Jabberwocky Song
* Beware the Jabberwock
* Twas Brillig (Piano Instrumental)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 1 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #1)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 3 (Version #1)
* Garden of Live Flowers Dialogue Sequence
* Rose Garden Scene
* How Doth the Little Crocodile
* Paul Frees Audition: Dodo Bird
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #1
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #2
* The Lion and the Unicorn
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Song Demo)
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Gloria Donovan Audition)
* Everything Has a Useness
* Instrumental Demo
* "Dance" Instrumental Demo
* "Entrance of the Walrus and the Carpenter" Instrumental Demo
* Alice and the Cheshire Cat
* Gavotte of the Cards
* Mock Turle Soup Song
* So They Say
* Humpty Dumpty
* Entrance of the Executioner
* When the Wind is in the East
* Braham's Lullabye Kathryn Beaumont Test
* Beautiful Soup
* The Carpenter is Sleeping
* Speak Roughly to Your Little Boy
* Will You Join the Dance
* Finale

Galleries
* Design Concepts by Mary Blair
* Design Concepts: Wonderland
* Design Concepts: Tulgey Wood
* Character Design: Alice
* Character Design: The White Rabbit
* Character Design: The Queen of Hearts
* Character Design: Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
* Character Design: Flowers
* Character Design: The Cheshire Cat
* Character Design: The Mad Hatter
* Character Design: The Caterpillar
* Character Design: Miscellaneous Characters
* Character Design: Deleted Characters
* Main Title Designs
* Photo Gallery: Live-Action Reference Filming
* Photo Gallery: Studio Production
* Voice Talent

Publicity
* Posters
* Lobby Cards
* Press Book
* Trailers

Walt Disney TV Introductions
* Disneyland Television Show (Excerpt) Original Airdate: November 3, 1954
* The Wonderful World of Color (Excerpt) Original Airdate: December 20, 1964

* One Hour in Wonderland
Originally Broadcast on ABC on December 25, 1950

* The Fred Waring Show (Excerpt)
Original Broadcast Date: March 18, 1951

* Operation Wonderland (1951 Promotional Film)
Originally Broadcast on "Ford Star Revue" June 14, 1951

* "Alice in Wonderland" BBC Radio Broadcast of July 4, 1951.
One Hour radio dramatization with Walt Disney and Kathryn Beaumont.

* BBC Christmas Radio Broadcast (1951)
Pre-recorded in California for broadcast by the BBC at Christmastime in 1951, this show features Kathryn Beaumont (the voice of Alice) and Walt Disney, who also provides the voice of Mickey Mouse. It was recorded as separate segments that introduced songs from classic Disney movies. The material included for presentation here (the segments setting up the songs) is all that's known to survive of this show.

So to sum it up, all of the video features (except the "Final Sequence Breakdown") made it to DVD. That deletion aggravates me, though, since the final chase sequence is actually my favorite scene in the film.

In terms of everything else, most of the audio and still features were dropped. Because of all the violet coloring, it may seem like quite a bit of the galleries made it, but in reality, each section only had 1 or 2 stills representing it on DVD when the LD has dozens for each.

I used to be absolutely enraged at the amount of missing material, but after seeing how shamefully Disney treated Peter Pan (a freaking Platinum title, for crying out loud), Alice's set came across a lot more favorably. I really, truly hope that most of these features will make it on the Blu-ray disc. To be honest, I'm at the point where I don't care if every feature is ported over. If Disney can just give me all the video features (including that missing sequence breakdown) more than half of the audio and stills, and a new documentary to go along with these, I'll be very satisfied.

How much of the 1939/1943 storyboards made it onto the Masterpiece edition?

Disneykid wrote:I've posted this before, but now seems like a good time for me to post/rant again. Here's the complete list of features on the Alice in Wonderland laserdisc. Everything in red didn't make it onto the Masterpiece Edition DVD. Everything in violet make it onto that edition in partial form. The extra descriptions are taken directly off the back cover listing.

History
* The History of Alice in Wonderland
* Sir John Tenniel's Illustrations for the Lewis Carroll books
* An Alice Comedy: Alice's Wonderland (1923)
* A Mickey Mouse Cartoon: Thru the Mirror (1936)
* 1939 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version (Artwork by David Hall and Ray Jacobs)
* 1943 Storyboards for Unproduced Feature Version
* Final Sequence Breakdown
* Deleted Storyboard Concept: Alice Daydreams in the Park

Song Demos
* The Caucus Race
* I'm Late (Song Demo)
* I'm Late (Test)
* The Unbirthday Song
* "Tea Party" Dialogue
* Alice in Wonderland
* In a World of My Own (Piano Instrumental)
* In a World of My Own (Song Demo)
* Dream Caravan
* If You'll Believe in Me
* The Jabberwocky Song
* Beware the Jabberwock
* Twas Brillig (Piano Instrumental)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 1 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #1)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 2 (Version #2)
* The Walrus and the Carpenter Part 3 (Version #1)
* Garden of Live Flowers Dialogue Sequence
* Rose Garden Scene
* How Doth the Little Crocodile
* Paul Frees Audition: Dodo Bird
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #1
* Paul Frees Audition: White Rabbit #2
* The Lion and the Unicorn
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Song Demo)
* Beyond the Laughing Sky (Gloria Donovan Audition)
* Everything Has a Useness
* Instrumental Demo
* "Dance" Instrumental Demo
* "Entrance of the Walrus and the Carpenter" Instrumental Demo
* Alice and the Cheshire Cat
* Gavotte of the Cards
* Mock Turle Soup Song
* So They Say
* Humpty Dumpty
* Entrance of the Executioner
* When the Wind is in the East
* Braham's Lullabye Kathryn Beaumont Test
* Beautiful Soup
* The Carpenter is Sleeping
* Speak Roughly to Your Little Boy
* Will You Join the Dance
* Finale

Galleries
* Design Concepts by Mary Blair
* Design Concepts: Wonderland
* Design Concepts: Tulgey Wood
* Character Design: Alice
* Character Design: The White Rabbit
* Character Design: The Queen of Hearts
* Character Design: Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
* Character Design: Flowers
* Character Design: The Cheshire Cat
* Character Design: The Mad Hatter
* Character Design: The Caterpillar
* Character Design: Miscellaneous Characters
* Character Design: Deleted Characters
* Main Title Designs
* Photo Gallery: Live-Action Reference Filming
* Photo Gallery: Studio Production
* Voice Talent

Publicity
* Posters
* Lobby Cards
* Press Book
* Trailers

Walt Disney TV Introductions
* Disneyland Television Show (Excerpt) Original Airdate: November 3, 1954
* The Wonderful World of Color (Excerpt) Original Airdate: December 20, 1964

* One Hour in Wonderland
Originally Broadcast on ABC on December 25, 1950

* The Fred Waring Show (Excerpt)
Original Broadcast Date: March 18, 1951

* Operation Wonderland (1951 Promotional Film)
Originally Broadcast on "Ford Star Revue" June 14, 1951

* "Alice in Wonderland" BBC Radio Broadcast of July 4, 1951.
One Hour radio dramatization with Walt Disney and Kathryn Beaumont.

* BBC Christmas Radio Broadcast (1951)
Pre-recorded in California for broadcast by the BBC at Christmastime in 1951, this show features Kathryn Beaumont (the voice of Alice) and Walt Disney, who also provides the voice of Mickey Mouse. It was recorded as separate segments that introduced songs from classic Disney movies. The material included for presentation here (the segments setting up the songs) is all that's known to survive of this show.

So to sum it up, all of the video features (except the "Final Sequence Breakdown") made it to DVD. That deletion aggravates me, though, since the final chase sequence is actually my favorite scene in the film.

In terms of everything else, most of the audio and still features were dropped. Because of all the violet coloring, it may seem like quite a bit of the galleries made it, but in reality, each section only had 1 or 2 stills representing it on DVD when the LD has dozens for each.

I used to be absolutely enraged at the amount of missing material, but after seeing how shamefully Disney treated Peter Pan (a freaking Platinum title, for crying out loud), Alice's set came across a lot more favorably. I really, truly hope that most of these features will make it on the Blu-ray disc. To be honest, I'm at the point where I don't care if every feature is ported over. If Disney can just give me all the video features (including that missing sequence breakdown) more than half of the audio and stills, and a new documentary to go along with these, I'll be very satisfied.

Hi, can you post a cover for this laserdisc issue of Alice, please ? I'm asking because there are many laserdiscs edition avalaible on some website and very few informations about them.

Thanks to answer