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Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:12 pm
by Sotiris
Cate Blanchett, Ewan McGregor, Tilda Swinton & More Round Out Cast For Guillermo del Toro Netflix ‘Pinocchio’ Movie
https://deadline.com/2020/08/guillermo- ... 203017507/

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Wow, what a cast list! It's almost a shame we can't bring Hanks from the Disney take and add him to those names, too. :P I've never read the source material for Pinocchio: I didn't know there was a female character other than the Blue Fairy in that story... I'm assuming Blanchett will play the Blue Fairy, so... Perhaps Tilda Swinton will be playing a genderbent villain or something? I could see her playing the Coachman's role, for example.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:44 pm
by Sotiris
Official synopsis:
Set during the rise of Fascism in Mussolini’s Italy, Pinocchio — a musical directed by del Toro and Mark Gustafson (Fantastic Mr. Fox) with a score by Alexandre Desplat — is a story of love and disobedience as Pinocchio struggles to live up to his father’s expectations.
Source: https://twitter.com/NetflixFilm/status/ ... 4264668160

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:40 pm
by Farerb
Here goes my interest in this... Shame.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:12 pm
by Sotiris
What don't you like about it?

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:10 pm
by Farerb
I just feel that the rise of fascism is unnecessary addition to a story that already has dark and complicated themes, and the original story took place a long time before that.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:03 am
by estefan
Guillermo del Toro's movies often center on mixing fantasy with the destructive side of humankind. This is especially evident in Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth and The Shape of Water. Del Toro himself has said he dislikes authoritarianism and any person or organization that forces people to follow a rigid structure.

Knowing that, it's understandable why he would add fascism to the story.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:42 pm
by Disney's Divinity
I believe the fascism angle of this was known going back to when it was announced. It’s part of the reason I’m less annoyed by two versions of the story being made at the same time. This will likely be better than the Disney re-make even without Hanks, but I’d have hazarded that guess just based on Del Toro being attached.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:44 pm
by Sotiris
farerb wrote:I just feel that the rise of fascism is unnecessary addition to a story that already has dark and complicated themes, and the original story took place a long time before that.
I think it adds an interesting element to a very familiar and often-adapted story. Hopefully it will be more complimentary to the story's themes than distracting.

I hope this adaptation finally does justice to the darker aspects of the original by keeping things like Pinocchio killing the Cricket or the Fox and the Cat hanging Pinocchio on a tree and leaving him for dead.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:29 am
by DisneyFan97
I love the cast !!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:24 am
by Sotiris

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:46 pm
by Disney Duster
Looks cool! I like that idea of him living in Pinnochio's heart.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:24 am
by blackcauldron85
It's Sebastian Cricket (not Jiminy- unless that's a nickname)- interesting. Very excited to see more of this. Disney's version is perfect so I'm more interested in the look and tone I suppose of this (I'm just weird about different film versions of stories besides the Disney animated versions!)...

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:58 am
by Sotiris
blackcauldron85 wrote:It's Sebastian Cricket (not Jiminy- unless that's a nickname)- interesting.
They couldn't use Jiminy Cricket; that's copyrighted by Disney. In the original tale, he was only referred to as Cricket. It was Disney that gave him a name.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:43 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Sebastian Cricket. I know it's unrelated to the Disney character, but it's cute since I always thought Sebastian functioned similarly to Jiminy Cricket, constantly chasing after Ariel to get her to do the right thing and disapproving of everything she does, lol.

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:07 pm
by blackcauldron85
I didn't realize that Jiminy is copyrighted. I needed to look this up (since obviously the Dwarfs say "Jiminy Crickets!"

https://www.quora.com/Where-and-when-di ... -originate

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:46 am
by Farerb
Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Carves a New Path: An Exclusive First Look

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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... first-look

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:13 am
by Farerb
Behold the Behind-the-Scenes Glory of Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
https://gizmodo.com/pinocchio-netflix-g ... 1849559367

Re: Pinocchio (Jim Henson)

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:41 pm
by blackcauldron85
it's coming to Criterion Collection in December:
https://collider.com/criterion-december ... d-balloon/