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Is there Something Wrong With Piglet?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:19 am
by Ariel'sprince
Is there something with him? or he isn't popolure or something?.
I allways noticed that many Winnie The Pooh characters gets attention (baiscly Pooh,Tigger and Eyore and now Roo for some reason) but Piglet seems not to get so much spolight like them,and he's Pooh's sidekick.
So is there anything worng with him?.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:17 am
by SpringHeelJack
Piglet actually has a nasty case of gonorrhea, and the powers that be felt that he would prove to be a bad role model. Reports that he is the real father of Jamie Lynn's baby are, for now, inconclusive.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:21 am
by I Love Bambi
I love Piglet.

It might be because he's the "shy" character. I've noticed that that type of character sometimes doesn't get a lot of publicity. :cry: It's funny, though, because that's just the type of character that appeals to me. :P

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:23 am
by BrandonH
Piglet lacks the marketability of those other characters.

Pooh is the star, and he's got a very warm personality and huggability factor that overcome his very little brains.

Tigger is bright, colorful, energetic, quotable, and memorable, and he basically has co-star status.

Eeyore is also quite cute, quotable, and memorable. He's popular with those who like Disney but don't want to be associated with anything light and fluffy.

Roo, as the youngster, has the appeal to the younger crowd. His innocence and enthusiasm led to him getting some decent stories and screen time, especially in The Tigger Movie.

Piglet may be Pooh's friend and true of heart, but he has a lot working against him. He's small, not very cute, afraid of a lot, and he stutters frequently. He's also a lot harder to put in a costume in the parks.

Piglet has been relegated to being one of the "other" inhabitants of the Hundred Acre Wood. Piglet, Rabbit, Owl, Kanga, and Christopher Robin, for various reasons, have proven to be less popular in terms of sales and interest from the public, so they will always be the second-stringers.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:06 am
by Prudence
SpringHeelJack wrote:Piglet actually has a nasty case of gonorrhea, and the powers that be felt that he would prove to be a bad role model. Reports that he is the real father of Jamie Lynn's baby are, for now, inconclusive.
Exactly.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:12 am
by Mr. Toad
Ever since he came out of the closet in 2003 he has been really hard to market.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:45 am
by rs_milo_whatever
its really weird because every single girl i asked when i was younger which of the winnie the pooh characters was their favorite, everyone of them said piglet.
Mr. Toad wrote:Ever since he came out of the closet in 2003 he has been really hard to market.
:lol: you crack me up

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:02 pm
by Ariel'sprince
rs_milo_whatever wrote:its really weird because every single girl i asked when i was younger which of the winnie the pooh characters was their favorite, everyone of them said piglet.
Werid (my cousion like him too,and she likes all the characters,too),he seems to get less attention while Eeyore and Roo takes over everything (altought he had his own movie,they didn't,they should make a film about Eeyore).

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:35 pm
by 2099net
Well, Piglet is almost like an old man, what with his worrying, "oh dear"s and "oh my"s etc. And Pooh is now being sold as a pre-school franchise. Pre-Schoolers don't identify with old men.

Do you see what's wrong with Piglet now?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:10 pm
by Prudence
I always liked Rabbit.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:24 pm
by candydog
Prudence wrote:I always liked Rabbit.
Me too!!! He was always my favourite Pooh character!!!

As for Piglet, he did get his own movie you know, so he isn't left on the shelf completely.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:24 pm
by singerguy04
It might be just me, but I don't really see how any could think that he's any less popular than he ever was. I also don't think that Roo really is all that more popular than Piglet either. As see just as much reference to one as there is to the other. I can see however that Pooh, Tigger, and Eeyore kind of steal the spotlight though. I just don't think Piglet is all that marketable because he's not a strong character, he's very wishy-washy.

by the way, Prudence that comes as no suprise to me at all haha. Actually Rabbit was one of my favorites too. Maybe this topic should be more about what's wrong with Rabbit, Owl, Kanga, Gopher, and Christopher Robin! Oh, and what about Woozles!?!

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:29 pm
by rs_milo_whatever
christopher robin IS completely left on the shelf!!!
i mean, what's up with having a new show about his toys without him???
piglet and christopher robin deserve so much more respect than that,
and they're just sending even more the idea of winnie the pooh being a "girly" franchise :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:57 pm
by Prudence
singerguy04 wrote: by the way, Prudence that comes as no suprise to me at all haha.
I knew it wouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

It seems that there was more Kanga and Roo merchandise nearly two decades ago, but I could be mistaken. I see next to nothing of Owl. And you're right, it's like Christopher Robin no longer exists. Of course, this might be due to the fact that he is -not- a toy (stuffed toy, animal, what-have-you) in the series, and thus does not exist in toy form very often.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:41 pm
by mikemgmve
That's funny, I remember a good amount of time where Piglet was insanely popular, t-shirts, sweat-shirts, clothing, and plenty of kids wearing it. They seem to go in cycles of popularity.

I've never much cared for Pooh, other than Eeyore. I think he's the shiznit.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:50 pm
by Pasta67
Piglet has always been (and judging from the new characters that we've been getting for the franchise recently, always will be) my favorite character from the 100 Acre Wood gang. If he has suffered a decrease in popularity, here's my guesses as to why:

I don't really think he's been reduced to a second-stringer (when he's reduced to Owl status, I'll think that); he's just less expressive than the other characters. The other main cast members, especially Pooh and Tigger, always blurt out every thought that comes into their minds, and they're never hesitant to go on adventures. This is why they appeal to kids; they're adventurous. They're exciting. They're "fun."

Piglet just isn't like that. He's more reserved than the other characters. He's shy, he's self-conscious, and he's constantly worrying about something. Every time an adventure is planned, Piglet's always the one thinking about the consequences, planning for the worst, and fearing for the safety of himself and the others. In short, he's a "boring" character. His character provides perfect contrast to Pooh's and Tigger's, which, for some reason, has become a bad thing in recent years. Back in the days of Many Adventures, New Adventures, and Pooh's Grand Adventure, it was a good thing. Piglet represents the worrywart that every child really is deep down. Yes, he wasn't as brave and energetic as Tigger or Pooh, but that was the point. That was what made Piglet a fan favorite.

Lately, though, the very thing that gave Piglet his initial charm is the reason he isn't as popular with the kids. He's not "exciting," or "fun," which makes him boring when compared to Tigger and Pooh, who kids nowadays respond to because they are what Piglet's not. If you really think about it, Piglet's arguably the most "adult" character in the 100 Acre Wood, in some ways even more so than Owl, Rabbit, Kanga, or Christopher Robin. His insecurities, worries, and thoughts are very adult, which is probably why kids don't like him as much as they do Pooh or Tigger. He thinks differently than they would.

It's not so much a problem with Piglet as I think it's a problem with what Disney's done to Pooh & pals and how much their audience has changed. Fans don't like the same things that Pooh fans a decade ago liked. If Piglet really is suffering a decrease in popularity, I think it's because he's being presented to an audience that doesn't know how to appreciate him.
BrandonH wrote:Piglet, Rabbit, Owl, Kanga, and Christopher Robin, for various reasons, have proven to be less popular in terms of sales and interest from the public, so they will always be the second-stringers.
All right, if it's okay with you guys, I'd like to broaden this discussion a little bit.

This has been on my mind for a while, but I've never had a place to say it. Why on Earth is Rabbit so darn unpopular?! I can understand why the other neglected characters are rarely shown, but out of all the 100 Acre Wood "supporting cast members," I've never understood why Rabbit has no fans.

I can understand Owl; he's the equivalent of an old man. Kids find old windbags boring, so even though I like him, I can see why Owl isn't too well liked. Christopher Robin's a human; he's got that going against him in this world of cute, fluffy animals. Kanga, of course, is the most boring and bland character I think I've ever laid eyes on, and Gopher's.... uh, not in the book? Come to think of it, I've never understood why Gopher's unpopular with kids too, but I'm talking about Rabbit here.

Okay, Rabbit's been a main character in every Pooh production I can think of. I think he probably has more lines than any other character, he always works so well with Pooh and Tigger (honestly, whenever Rabbit has a discussion with either of them, it's pure comic gold), and he's constantly entertaining. He's actually my favorite character besides Piglet. Yet when I look at DVD covers, Pooh merchandise, and other Pooh products, I never see Rabbit. No stuffed animals, nothing. I'm starting to think that Disney doesn't even like Rabbit at all. In Springtime with Roo, Rabbit was made out to be the antagonist of the whole movie (even though he didn't really do a single thing wrong, IMO). He gets just as much screentime as the other "stars," so why is he not marketed as much? It baffles me to no end.

What do you guys think? Why is Rabbit given the shaft as much as he is?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:58 pm
by singerguy04
Why is Eeyore so popular? i mean, i like him too but why?

He's chronically depressed, and honestly other than the villians he needs a psychiatrist badly or else i don't know what will become of him.

Maybe he'll join the latest hollywood trend and go to rehab!

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:19 pm
by rs_milo_whatever
Pasta67 wrote: What do you guys think? Why is Rabbit given the shaft as much as he is?
because like you said, adult characters barely appeal to kids; although i do agree that piglett has some aspects of an "adult" character, i think his cuteness level beats so many characters in bland but extremely succesful pre-school franchises. he's innocent and unsecure as SO many kids out there.i definately think that they can truly work around that; so i don't completely agree that he's unappealing to kids or too much of an adult.

as for rabbit; he is such a cool character. but HE is very much an adult. so i can see why kids just leave him out when role playing hundred acre woods. why would they buy a plush toy of...say...sarabi???
i mean he brings so much to plots and witty moments on his appearences
but kids just aren't too interested in plot lines, they just care about funny moments and adventures.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:23 pm
by Prudence
Pasta67 wrote:This has been on my mind for a while, but I've never had a place to say it. Why on Earth is Rabbit so darn unpopular?! I can understand why the other neglected characters are rarely shown, but out of all the 100 Acre Wood "supporting cast members," I've never understood why Rabbit has no fans.
Did you not see what I wrote earlier in this thread? He was always my favorite member of the Hundred Acre Wood.
Pasta67 wrote:I never see Rabbit. No stuffed animals, nothing.
Really? I do. One of my first toys ever, a gift to me in my infancy, was Rabbit. Not knowing better, I chewed on his ears.
:)
Pasta67 wrote:I'm starting to think that Disney doesn't even like Rabbit at all. In Springtime with Roo, Rabbit was made out to be the antagonist of the whole movie (even though he didn't really do a single thing wrong, IMO).

It's due to his personality. He isn't a villain, but he does... have OCD traits, for lack of a better description. His type of character makes for a good antagonist, and children typically do not prefer characters that remind them of a strict teacher or someone of the like.

He's not always cast as the antagonist. Remember his adoption of Kessie?
singerguy04 wrote:Why is Eeyore so popular? i mean, i like him too but why?

He's chronically depressed, and honestly other than the villians he needs a psychiatrist badly or else i don't know what will become of him.
Because the fact that he is depressed all the time is supposed to be funny, and in that way he is Tigger's polar opposite. People also like Eeyore for the same reason I like Rabbit: Eeyore allows people to laugh at themselves, and when one views most of life negatively, laughter is all the more appreciated.
rs_milo_whatever wrote:
Pasta67 wrote: What do you guys think? Why is Rabbit given the shaft as much as he is?
because like you said, adult characters barely appeal to kids...

as for rabbit; he is such a cool character. but HE is very much an adult. so i can see why kids just leave him out when role playing hundred acre woods. why would they buy a plush toy of...say...sarabi???
I always preferred Sarabi and Zazu to the other Lion King characters, and I was born in 1990. It annoyed me as a child, and annoys me now, that my favorite characters barely receive attention. I would pay $500 for a Prudence doll.

But the thing of it all is, I was never a typical child. Someone told me just last month, in the middle of a conversation, "What do you mean when you're an adult? You've been an adult since you were four years old!"

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:41 pm
by rs_milo_whatever
oddly enough i related so much to these characters when i was younger;
but i know for sure that is not the case of the great majority of kids.