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What's up everybody?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:18 am
by Alice
:D I can't believe my login stuff still works. :lol:

I found this place while searching for pictures of the Spice Girls limited edition boxset.

I haven't been on here in AGES, so I bet ya'lls forgot about me. :(

This place hasn't changed at all! [except for the banner....naturally :lol: ]

So how is everyone? :P

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:27 am
by MadonnasManOne
Hello! I wondered what in the world had happened to you. I remember you said you were thinking about taking a break, for a while. I didn't forget about you, though. I have had a message in my Outbox for you, forever. I figured you might eventually log in, and get it. LOL! I see that you finally did. Nice to see you back!

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:52 am
by Lazario
Well, roll out the black carpet...

Nice to have you back.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:29 pm
by Alice
lol, I figured only you 2 would reply back. :lol:

Yeah, after I left I felt so out of the loop on all the Disney releases.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:49 pm
by Prudence
Hello, Person Whom I Truly Do Not Know Yet. How art thou?

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:52 pm
by Alice
^Yous a newbie ain't ya? :wink: :lol:

hello there. There's so many newbies and/or people I've forgotten in this place.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:56 pm
by Prudence
I dislike being thought of as a new person, even though I am new compared to a lot of people. I'm a long time overly analytical Disney fan, if that makes up for it. I simply didn't have the internet in 2002, nor did this forum exist at the time.

Hmph. :wink:

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:00 pm
by Alice
:lol:

I meant a newbie on HERE, love. :wink:

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:11 pm
by Prudence
Ha, I'm an overly defensive [insert censored word here]. You'll get used to me.

No worries, I know what you meant.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:45 am
by Lazario
Prudence wrote:I'm a long time overly analytical Disney fan
Did you think Beauty and the Beast was weird, too?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:07 pm
by Prudence
Lazario wrote:
Prudence wrote:I'm a long time overly analytical Disney fan
Did you think Beauty and the Beast was weird, too?
Why? Because the 2002 edition was visually brighter than the original? Mm-hm. The discs came with fairly nice bonus features, though.

Re: What's up everybody?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:47 pm
by jennydumas
Alice wrote::D I can't believe my login stuff still works. :lol:

I found this place while searching for pictures of the Spice Girls limited edition boxset.

I haven't been on here in AGES, so I bet ya'lls forgot about me. :(

This place hasn't changed at all! [except for the banner....naturally :lol: ]

So how is everyone? :P
Hi Alice! 8)
Welcome back :]
(btw, you don't remember me because we never met) :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:39 am
by Lazario
Prudence wrote:
Lazario wrote: Did you think Beauty and the Beast was weird, too?
Why? Because the 2002 edition was visually brighter than the original? Mm-hm. The discs came with fairly nice bonus features, though.
Not the DVD. The movie.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:07 am
by xxhplinkxx
Alice wrote:^Yous a newbie ain't ya? :wink: :lol:

hello there. There's so many newbies and/or people I've forgotten in this place.
Hey, hey. Just cause you havent been here in ages, doesnt make us newbies. We've been here for quite some time! We're just new to you.

Anywho, glad to see someone return, and nice to meet you! :D

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:27 am
by Prudence
Lazario wrote:
Prudence wrote: Why? Because the 2002 edition was visually brighter than the original? Mm-hm. The discs came with fairly nice bonus features, though.
Not the DVD. The movie.
Why?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:06 am
by Isidour
Weird in which way Laz?

Do you mean she getting inlove of a beast, the little detail of everything having life when the curse had effect but beast had very few servants after the curse wore off? The detail of how old was beast when the curse was set...

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:02 pm
by Prudence
The latter bit of weirdness has already been discussed. :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:06 pm
by Isidour
Prudence wrote:The latter bit of weirdness has already been discussed. :wink:
It has...? :oops:
ups...sorry

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:08 pm
by Prudence
Isidour wrote:
Prudence wrote:The latter bit of weirdness has already been discussed. :wink:
It has...? :oops:
ups...sorry
"Enchantress: 'O.K., since you learned your lesson, I'll let you stay young and hot.' " - Disney Duster.
(He worded it a little differently, but his way wasn't chronologically or grammatically correct.)

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:11 pm
by Lazario
Prudence wrote:Why?
Isidour wrote:Weird in which way Laz?

Do you mean she getting inlove of a beast, the little detail of everything having life when the curse had effect but beast had very few servants after the curse wore off? The detail of how old was beast when the curse was set...
Not really any of those reasons.

One thing I've mentioned on numerous occasions is the way that the townspeople following Gaston seemed very patronizing. I mean, yes for that time period it was believable. And this movie may have had a big hand in establing this as a cliche- so I can only barely call it cliched. However... it sure wasn't a smooth way of the movie getting it's point across. And then, the added music makes it feel - you're gonna love this - cartoony.

I thought the movie's balance of silly with serious was very weird, unsubtle, and clumsy. So, I never thought the movie drummed up the proper emotion in the viewer for the situations onscreen. It only seems to work in a very sappy way. So, that made the romance feel a bit decorative and not deep. That in itself is a cliche, of course. One I know I can get away with tagging to this movie.

The other thing I know I've mentioned is the way that Belle falls in love with The Beast. Basically, she's all too fast and easy to forgive and ignore his angry tantrums - which go on during the serious moments - when she's curious. She wants to search the West Wing, with that playful girlishness. Like she doesn't have a care in the world. What- did she forget that she was upset to the point of breaking down in tears at the Beast's treatment of her??

That made me feel as though, even though she was portrayed as ahead of her time for that era in history, she was also still being portrayed as light-or-bubble headed as well. Making it even harder to connect with her. Strangely enough, I actually don't think I can fault the Beast character for any of this. His character comes off perfectly for me. Not ideally, but for the purposes of the film, I think he works. But it's basically his story. And Belle, the independent and free thinker... not enough effort is put into developing her.

Or they took the easy way out. Like I know they did with that absolutely absurd sequence of Gaston freaking out the towns people. It was just an abrupt and out-there set up for a musical number. A disturbing musical number, when you look at it.


Anyway- I'm only going into all this because you said you were analytical about Disney. I thought this is basically what you meant.