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Does anyone think they'll rerelease these as time goes by. Beacuse I just really started getting them and want the first Silly Symphonies volume. I think that just like their other dvds they should reprint them as well. Or were they a on a one time? I guess only time will tell.

Disney's position is only the tins and the certificate are limited editions. The content is not. They have already rereleased the first two years worth once as a Costco exclusive so it is possible.

After they finish the series up next year maybe they will do a giant box set.

jshyarbro wrote:I just really started getting them and want the first Silly Symphonies volume.

It's a shame that most American TV/DVD setups don't have the ability to play PAL format DVDs from other regions, because it seems the first Silly Symphonies set is still freely available elsewhere in the world. I was at a K-Mart the other night and saw a whole bunch of SS sets knocked down from AU$30 to $12; and the British pressing is still available from Amazon.co.uk for a mere £5.97.

Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink...

Hopefully definitive sets of the shorts will one day appear on Blu Ray.

Mr. Toad wrote:Disney's position is only the tins and the certificate are limited editions. The content is not. They have already rereleased the first two years worth once as a Costco exclusive so it is possible.

After they finish the series up next year maybe they will do a giant box set.

Don't think they did a re-release on the COSCO ones, I hear that the
tins were messed up and they just repackaged them..Not sure if that
was true or not.
DG

Disney Guy, you are totally correct on the COSTCO special editions. These were a collection that they bought in bulk from Disney because of dented, broken or lost tins, and they repackaged them without the inserts or the tin and sold them for next to nothing.

I would hope that Disney releases these as a Vault collection later, or something like that, without the tin, and certification slip. I only missed two of the tins so far, but Silly Symphonies isn't one of those that I missed.

If you want a prior release of a Treasure Tin, I would recommend searching/purchasing on E-Bay. There is usually a good selection of brand new, unopened or used copies available on auction or buy now status. Yes it cost more than the original retail price, but the question for you to answer is how badly do you want it and what can you afford.

Also, I have seen a few copies of the more recent tin releases in Best Buys stilled listed at retail price.

Prince Charming 12 wrote:If you want a prior release of a Treasure Tin, I would recommend searching/purchasing on E-Bay. There is usually a good selection of brand new, unopened or used copies available on auction or buy now status. Yes it cost more than the original retail price, but the question for you to answer is how badly do you want it and what can you afford.

Also, I have seen a few copies of the more recent tin releases in Best Buys stilled listed at retail price.

Also If you go Ebay... Keep an eye out for Fraud and Fake dvds or bootlegs and/or imports.... Same with any other buy from secondary websites.....

Also a good place to keep an eye out for Walt Disney Treausres from the past years gone by is Gamestop and FYE... Its rare but you can probably find some stories on this forum that people have found rare Disney DVDs at Gamestop/Eb Games.... at a more than reasonable price... such as I saw a Donald Duck Volume Walt Disney Treasure... It was minty mint mint.....I didnt get it because I already owned that but the price was for sure a good deal. it was only $9.99 plus tax...

I think Disney will eventually release these again, probably in ten years. I do not have Mickey Mouse in Black and White 1, Silly Symphonies (1), and The Complete Goofy. I have no intentions of paying over 100 dollars on ebay to get the movie, even without a tin. I am also not gonna spend day and night, hoping to get lucky and find a cheap one on ebay.

However, like I stated earlier, I do think Disney will re-release the series, without tins. This could possibly be an online only purchase, since some of the recent sales have been poor, and Disney could monitor how many are produced if they were only sold online.

I think that the tins have always been the stupidest marketing ploy ever. What good are they? They make it impossible to fit in conventional DVD storage units and a lot of people, including myself, just put them in a box somewhere. It's just an excuse to charge the higher price, that's all.

UncleEd wrote:I think that the tins have always been the stupidest marketing ploy ever. What good are they? They make it impossible to fit in conventional DVD storage units and a lot of people, including myself, just put them in a box somewhere. It's just an excuse to charge the higher price, that's all.

While I agree with you that the tins are absolutely useless, I disagree about the price point. My tins like yours sit in my garage. However, I dont think the price is high. The Looney Toons set is pretty much exactly the price of two Treasures. Same amount of content. They are only a couple of dollars more than a Platinum edition with certainly a lot more in the way of content. Thats pretty good value and I would pay a couple of bucks more.

At the end they could re-release them with box sets of each character.

Donald Duck set which would be 8 discs.

Mickey Mouse set would be 8 discs.

Goofy and Pluto set would be 6 discs. (could add 2 discs of misc. characters to bring it up to 8 as well)

Have a special box, include polystone figurine(s), and add extra material to each set that wasn't on the original treasures, to force you to double dip. LOL!

James

Like I have mentioned in another thread, if they do release them again, I hope the Silly Symphonies and Mickey Mouse cartoons will be correct chronologically this time, instead of just a collection of "best of" like it was the first time.

i really hope that they do rerelease them just because i have never really been a huge disney fan since i have came back from disneyland with me and my girlfriend and that was in march of this year so i missed out in getting all of these treasures

i really hope that they do rerelease them just because i have never really been a huge disney fan since i have came back from disneyland with me and my girlfriend and that was in march of this year so i missed out in getting all of these treasures

Let me rephrase that then. When the Disney Treasures they were one of the highest priced such titles on the market. I think wave 1 was almost 30.00 in most places. Since then you can get the new waves at about 25.00. But when they first started these it was said in an interview that the tins were to give more value. Which translates to "We can charge a higher price and get away with it". Today 25.00 isn't that much for a 2 disc DVD but it's still pretty high to the average consumer. You have to remember that your average Joe doesn't buy Criterion DVDs and things like that all the time so it's usually sneered at to pay 30.00 for a Disney Treasure.

I only ever bought Looney Tunes 1 because they ran a sale when it came out and that has 4 discs of content, doesn't it? I have passed on all other Looney Tunes sets for now because the 50.00 a pop price is more than I'm willing to pay for them. There is just so much great animation on DVD for under 30.00 that it's hard to justify plopping down the 50.00 and buying up the stuff under 30.00 tends to detract from having 50.00 to spend anyway.

UncleEd wrote:When the Disney Treasures [started?] they were one of the highest priced such titles on the market. I think wave 1 was almost 30.00 in most places. Since then you can get the new waves at about 25.00.

To be fair, in 2001/2 the Disney Treasures were pretty much the only packages of shorts on the market; legit ones, anyway.

According to my Amazon order history, I only paid $24.74 for the Wave 1 sets in Feb 2002, which is the same amount as I paid for the Wave 2 sets in Dec 2002. Excluding postage, they cost about the same amount as a new release single disc release does in Australia; so as far as I'm concerned they're excellent value for money. In fact, after taking into account the currency exchange rates, the R4 sets without tins cost around the same as the R1 sets with tins.

I doubt the Treasures will be re-released in the near future. The drop-off in sales for recent waves suggests the audience is barely large enough to keep new releases going. The market seems to be satiated Treasure-wise. I should imagine that once the Treasures project is complete, the only releases of shorts for the foreseeable future will be the occasional Fun Factory style discs.

UncleEd wrote:You have to remember that your average Joe doesn't buy Criterion DVDs and things like that all the time so it's usually sneered at to pay 30.00 for a Disney Treasure.

Well, that way they get to sell first and foremost to those who appreciate the Treasures, though... Honestly, to me it's pretty much irrelevant whether they cost $15 or $30 - great value either way and only three or four a year.

I wasn't knocking the content of the shorts on the Treasures. I was just saying that the higher prices keeps the average person from buying these. Everyone grew up with these on TV up through the late 90's, now the DVDs are the only place to get them. It's very poor marketing to keep these out of reach for a broader audience. Then Disney wrings its hands and complains that they are not selling enough units to justify making more when they are selling them at a price point the masses aren't willing to pay. These have had poor distribution too. I have yet to see 1 store who has all 4 titles on release day. I always have to drive around to several stores to get them all.MK Sharp, if you are not even a resident of the US then I guess you can't understand what consumers are like over here. They don't care if exchange rates are the same or if they're a great value on the Criterion level. No, they only compare it to other mainstream titles and Disney really needed to make these a more mainstream release to make then be considered a financial success. How can only 60,000 people be interested in Silly Symphonies or Donald Duck cartoons when almost triple that wanted the War cartoons and other sets when you're not doing anything wrong? I just don't think Disney really believes in their library of old films anymore because they do all they can to ensure such endevours fail. They did it with the Vault Disneys, They've done it with archival DVDs in general, they've done it with the Disney Legacys, and now they're doing it with the Treasures. The Treasures have been a mixed bag to me with fiascos like combining Swamp Fox and El Fago Bacca so we only get 1/3 of the shows for each title and now we'll never get to see the rest. Those should have been issued in box set form. There have been other lame examples too. I think we can all agree that the Treasures have been the most successful in releasing animated content. I don't mind releases like Davy Crockett or Disneyland USA but those are self contained and the Disneyland one leaves it open for a sequel set but can work just fine without it. It's not like the cartoons series or Swamp Fox where there is more to the story or a cliffhanger ending.

I've always liked the idea of them releasing full box sets of the animation content in the style of the WB animated DVDS. I don't think we could expect more than a 4 disc set but it would be nice to have everything in chronological order and maybe have the Donald's from a few waves back actually cleaned up and restored.


15.00 vs. 30.00 does make a huge difference to your average Joe consumer. I've never understood this snobbish attitude that a lot of DVD film collectors have. Film was created to entertain the MASSES and by having films out of reach from the general public only allows a few elite people to see them. I saw tear down the flood gates and let the films pour out to the public. WB. gets it right most of the time. You can even get many of their 2 disc sets of classic films for around 10.00. As many of you Disney fans know, many Americans can only afford to visit a Disney park once in their lives. Cast members are trained on this fact and used to be told to make sure they treat everyone special to make this once in a life time experience memorable.Not everyone can afford season passes or to trek to Florida or California several times a year. This country is mostly made up of middle class to working poor and it's only getting worse. Do you think Walt honestly intended for Disneyland to only be for the elite few? No, he built it for the many. It was only a dollar to go into the park in 1955. What is it today, close to 100.00? You can't blame that on inflation, that's pure greed. I'm the biggest Disney fan out there and that's why I want Disney to be shared with everybody. But the sorry fact is a lot of people will never experience the magic of Disney because they can't afford to. Is it too much to ask to give them the DVD's at prices they can pay so if they never go to a park they experience that magic?

UncleEd wrote:I wasn't knocking the content of the shorts on the Treasures. I was just saying that the higher prices keeps the average person from buying these.

But they are not aimed at the average person. They are limited edition and aimed at collectors.