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I noticed this a while ago. if you listen to some of the pre visualization reels for the scene where buzz is first introduced, you'll see that they originally wrote the line "blast! this will take weeks to repair." as "Damn, this will take weeks to repair". in the final version of this scene as we all know they changed "damn" to "blast" (to make it more family friendly of course), however if you look closely at buzz's lips, they still seem to have his lips syncing to the word"damn".


I just thought this was interesting because they ether overlooked this and it was a mistake, or they did it last minute and didn't have time to re animate his lips to form the right sound. or even a combo of both.

That's one of those random weird things that happen in movies, like the penis on the castle or the priest's erection in the little mermaid, and the word "sex" in the one scene in the lion king. i think someone thinks it's funny to put this stuff in movies

it's funny, but...i dunno, it's really random and kinda dumb....

I have always heard that they do this in movies and it is not just in animated movies, They are called Easter Eggs just likethe ones we find on dvds where the film crew sneaks things in.The Star Wars movies are filled with them. One example is in Star Wars Episode II there is a cow creature in the meteor field. And all the Star Wars movies has things like this.In Episode I the ship from 2001 is in the junk yard.
In Indiana Jones inthe tomb with the snakes r2-dr and C-3po are carved inthe Heiroglifics. In Pixar's Finding Nemo, there is a Buzz Doll with the toy box .
There are web sites that list tons of these easter eggs, theyare fun to find

Woah, woah, woah. I don't think you're getting it. The issue here is that Pixar was actually considering putting the word "damn" in a G-Rated movie (although, perhaps they thought it'd end up PG). If it was an Easter Egg, it would be like an in-joke for people. What adult is going to look at Buzz's lips and go, "Oh, he was going to say damn!"? This is clearly what Kyle originally said it was, a mistake. Unless the animators kept it in as a joke for themselves, but not the viewer, because if more people knew this they may have a fit about "damn" in a children's movie, even if it was only mouthed. One thing is for certain: Even if this ended up as a joke, it was not intended, and began as a mistake...or laziness.

Yeah, I did think he'd got the wrong end of the stick on that one.

But modern Disney movies are full of easter eggs.

Aladdin is absolutely crammed with references to past Disney classics.

One of my favourites is in Hercules, where Hercules is having a portrait produced of him, he's wearing the skin of Scar from the Lion King.

But it's not an Easter Eggs, like DisneyDuster said, it's either a last-minute alteration or (what I feel is less likely) a joke amongst the animators.

yeah, not to repeat what others have already, but there's no way things like buzz in finding nemo can be considered a mistake. they intentionally did this hoping that people with a good eye would find out. even the word SFX in lion king, Im sure they knew someone might find it eventually. but all those actually take some effort to put in there and hide. this is likely nothing more than a last minute change of a line in editing. (Im guessing they had tim record it both ways and they choose the damn one first to animate to)

its not something anyone's going to notice unless your going frame by frame like I tend to do. and it wouldn't be unheard of to use the word. boy meets world uses damn and hell, even on the disney channel cuts of the show where they sensor a lot of stuff. and I'm sure there's other actual kids movies to use as an example, I just cant think of any at the moment.

Hmm never noticed, but next time I watch the movie I'll look for it.

I don't see why it would need to be changed. "Damn" has been used in other Disney movies. As have "hell" and even "jackass" (yes, it was used to describe a donkey in 1940, but still...).

Damn isn't a really a bad word and I don't think saying it would warrant the movies rating to go from G to PG.

Widdi wrote:Damn isn't a really a bad word and I don't think saying it would warrant the movies rating to go from G to PG.

Well I certainly don't want my 3 and 6 year olds saying it.

Tom

I think some people have way too much time on their hands.

I hate it when people try to find things wrong with movies instead of just enjoying them.

The scene when the two lion cubs in TLK are wrestling and according to some weirdos they end up in a sexual position is ridiculous.

Or the latest thing about Prince's guitar being a phallic symbol............c'mon give me a break.

These people need to get more creative with their revelations. These are just movies or artists.

for the record I wasnt really looking for it. I just happened to remember how the line went in its early form, and was watching the scene one day and said to my self "well what do ya know? his lips don't match."

and I don't consider this "wrong". like your thinking. its not like he was mouthing the f word or anything (of course that would have been more obvious...).

This coming from the person who saw cars 1000 times inthe theaters and looked for all the hidden things

Tom in North Carolina wrote:

Widdi wrote:Damn isn't a really a bad word and I don't think saying it would warrant the movies rating to go from G to PG.

Well I certainly don't want my 3 and 6 year olds saying it.

Tom

No, and I can understand that. But there is a difference between hearing the word and saying it. As long as you can explain why you shouldn't use the word then I think hearing it is okay.

Personally it wouldn't bother me to hear my daughter say it (mind you she doesn't say anything that sounds like a word yet) as long as she didn't direct it towards someone, but that's just me.

Widdi wrote:No, and I can understand that. But there is a difference between hearing the word and saying it. As long as you can explain why you shouldn't use the word then I think hearing it is okay.

yes there is a difference, but a kid that young wont know what not to say.
that's why changing a rating from G to PG seems appropriate here. PG means "parental guidance" after all. this implies that a parent may want to guide their children if they do not want them to repeat certain words or actions they hear in a movie. this is why you don't see G rated movies too much these days. it doesn't take much to change something to a PG rating at all.

Kyle wrote:

Widdi wrote:No, and I can understand that. But there is a difference between hearing the word and saying it. As long as you can explain why you shouldn't use the word then I think hearing it is okay.

yes there is a difference, but a kid that young wont know what not to say.
that's why changing a rating from G to PG seems appropriate here. PG means "parental guidance" after all. this implies that a parent may want to guide their children if they do not want them to repeat certain words or actions they hear in a movie. this is why you don't see G rated movies too much these days. it doesn't take much to change something to a PG rating at all.

I guess the American rating system is much more strict than the Canadian one. G movies run rampant here and R movies are incredibly rare.

Still had the word been used in Toy Story I'd be surprised if it alone got it bumped to a PG movie. To me there are a lot of things in that movie that I'd be much more hesitant to show Jade than Buzz saying Damn. Spud ripping up the toy alien and Sid's "surgery" on the doll come to mind. But as the South Park movie tought us; "Horrific diplorable violence is ok, as long as you don't use 'naughty language'". Not that the violence in Toy Story is that extreme, but I as a parent I am much more concerned about that than about the word damn.

well I too doubt that one word would have made the rating change, but a combo of every thing in the movie that was even slightly questionable might have pushed it over the edge. I think if they had kept bo peep like she was originally it would have been PG. (she made a lot of sexual innuendos in the early script)

Well, Home on the Range got changed from a G to a PG because Maggie says, "Yeah, they're real. Stop staring". So, sometimes all it takes is a little something to make the rating go up. I don't think that that line needs to be in there, though. I was re-reading the Disney Magazine issue from Spring 2004, and the cover story was on "Home on the Range", and someone said how the rest of the film would be wholesome, but that one line shows Maggie's true personality, or something like that. I still think that "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" should have been rated PG. I remember being in the theater (age 11) and just not believing that this movie was rated G. Great movie, though.

Sorry if I got off-topic!

Memnv wrote:

This coming from the person who saw cars 1000 times inthe theaters and looked for all the hidden things.

Again posting without reading the subject of the post. We aren't talking about easter eggs here, we are talking about scenes where people actually say they see things - like Jessica Rabbitt with no panties in "Roger Rabbit", and the dust clouds when the cubs are wrestling spelling out "s-e-x", and things like that.

Scenes like the ones you are describing are totally fine, and are fun to look for, but what they are talking about is a character whose mouth movement doesn't match the dialogue such as in "Toy Story".

Read the subject of the thread before posting something off-topic next time.

And it is R2-D2 not r2-dr as you stated in your previous post.

and its pepole not peoole like you said

memnv wrote:and its people not peoole like you said

dont ask me why, but that cracked me up!!

nothing personal, dvdjunkie.