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Anybody know of any updates on the release of this special edition DVD?

I have no Idea...but I heard like 2 years ago there was supposed to be some sort of 2 disc Special Editon. Which never came out..I hope it comes out soon. The first DVD release had a nice supply of features but a 2 disc would be even better lol.

No. But why don't you order that from some other region instead waiting all these years? For example we have had that for ages in region 2. I have ordered several films from region 1 and I live in Finland. That's no problem.

i remember seeing the commercial for this in the finding nemo dvd

Jeremy wrote:No. But why don't you order that from some other region instead waiting all these years? For example we have had that for ages in region 2. I have ordered several films from region 1 and I live in Finland. That's no problem.

Personally, I prefer watching content in their original formats. My DVD players are region free, and one of my TVs can play PAL video, but Lilo & Stitch was an NTSC film... and I'd rather watch it in NTSC. I've heard bad things about NTSC --> PAL conversion jobs in the past.

TM2-Megatron wrote:Personally, I prefer watching content in their original formats. My DVD players are region free, and one of my TVs can play PAL video, but Lilo & Stitch was an NTSC film... and I'd rather watch it in NTSC.

Lilo and Stitch was not an NTSC film. Film is just film, it is neither PAL nor NTSC.

TM2-Megatron wrote:I've heard bad things about NTSC --> PAL conversion jobs in the past.

Yes but not all R2 DVDs are NTSC>PAL.

Let me explain (and pray I do it without any minor mistakes or I'll have deathie screaming at me! ) I'll try to simplify the complicated bits so everyone understands.

A film like Lilo and Stitch is film, neither PAL nor NTSC it is simply film.

When released on DVD in the US it is converted from Film > NTSC.
The 24 frames of film per second are "stretched" to 30 frames per second, meaning some frames are displayed for longer than others. (resulting in the side effect of "telecine judder".)

R2 releases 99.9% of the time have the same thing done to them. They are transfered from Film > PAL. PAL gas 25 frames per second (resulting in the side effect of PAL speedup).

Now Lilo and Stitch is a Film > PAL transfer, so is no worse than a Film > NTSC transfer.

So neither an NTSC or PAL DVD truly represent the film properly as film like Lilo and Stitch have 24 frames per second, neither PAL nor NTSC recreate this PAL has 25fps and NTSC 30fps. So although there is a slight speed up with PAL which some claim they can hear in the audio, PAL has much more fluid movement than NTSC. Also a PAL image has more lines than an NTSC which also results in PAL having a superior picture quality.

But any, what happens on occassion is that a R2 DVD instead of being Film > PAL, they take the NTSC transfer that has already been transfered from a film and then converted that to PAL, NTSC>PAL.

Now you can tell which is a Film>PAL transfer and which is NTSC>PAL by the running time, the 4% speedup, means the running time in 4% less, (meaning a UK DVD will be a couple of minutes shorter than a US one).
But with NTSC>PAL the 4% speedup does not occur, so if the running time for a UK DVD is the same as a US one, then we've got ourselves a (called evil by some, but quite frankly I think some go overboard about it) NTSC>PAL transfer.

Now UK Disney transfers (along with the rest of Europe, except for a few minors expectation like the Scandivian Make Mine Music) are Film > Pal.

Now admit it, you'r more confused now I've explained it than you were before I started!

No, actually it wasn't confusing; I can see the logic in that. However, I usually watch DVDs on an EDTV display... from what I've read of the whole telecine judder thing since reading this, it seems to be a result of the interlaced nature of NTSC being used for the 3:2 pulldown conversion. So would a progressive scan DVD player eliminate the judder effect when playing a soft-telecined DVD back at 480p?

Perhaps it's because of the alternate ending not being PC that has delayed this title? I too have been waiting a long time for it.

i really want this special edition one.. i think i wore out my first single disc dvd.. and i want to buy the special edition dvd instead of another single disc one

zack626 wrote:i really want this special edition one.. i think i wore out my first single disc dvd.. and i want to buy the special edition dvd instead of another single disc one

How can you wear out a DVD? There is no physical contact between the laser and the shiny foil inside the DVD disc, hence no friction. Stuff like that happens with VHS tape, which gets worn out after years of usage, constantly coming in contact to a spinning silver drum, or to vynil LPs. However, with the latter, I think the degradation is so slow that it's practically negligible. I have some old singles which have been playing for countless times (and I mean countless). I vandalised them when I was 3 years old. The records are now covered in biro, ink, deep scratches, and the like, and believe it or not ... they still play perfectly (in full stereo sound!). They're 45 rpm records.

Did you mean that your DVD is worn out with scratches you have inflicted upon it ... cos that's different.