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The Rescuers R1 Insert/Booklet?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 2:51 am
by Woody
I received my R1 copy of The Rescuers last week but it didn't have an insert or booklet inside. Is this normal? Has anyone got their copy to hand to check on what they got inside? Hope you can help.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 7:23 am
by Cinderelly
I read on another DVD forum that BVHE is cutting back on the inserts from now on.... I thought it was a rumor, but if your disc doesn't have one then i guess its true...
It mentions disney about half-way down the page
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread ... did=292107
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 9:29 am
by Luke
Sheesh, I don't mind them leaving out inserts of $9.99 SRP titles, but you'd think for $29.99 SRP, The Rescuers could at least have an insert if not a booklet with interesting information (like Columbia/TriStar used to do).
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:12 am
by Maerj
Considering that this is one of their animated classics, you'd think they could at least print up a measly card for it. Maybe we can design one ourselves online and print it out?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:21 am
by Luke
Maerj wrote:Considering that this is one of their animated classics, you'd think they could at least print up a measly card for it. Maybe we can design one ourselves online and print it out?
Probably could and make a better one, too.
Or someone could just scan the R2 insert, assuming it had one?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 5:33 pm
by Paka
I experienced something similar with the
Down Under dvd I just got... through the Movie Club, I might add, thanks to Luke's propaganda. LOL (It was a snail mail offer though, Luke - sorry!)
Anyways, I got the craptacular Gold Collection dvd, which came with a title card, but the "Animals of the Outback" booklet was missing - even when it's referred to a coupla times on the packaging! O_o
So needless to say, I was a bit peeved. Then I was even
more peeved after I stuck the disc in, though - being an early Disney dvd, there were forced previews with no way to get to the menu but to press the forward skip button about a thousand times. >:-p
Then I get to main menu, only to be greeted by a godawful rendition of Marahute with the other (mercifully on-model) characters on her back - I thought that nice cover art was too good to be true...

Then the film itself is from a film print - not digitally transferred as it easily could have been. And its OAR of 1.66:1 is cropped to 1.78:1 - even though it says it's in 1.66:1. Bleah.
This same cropping was done to the recent release of
The Great Mouse Detective, too - another MC dvd, I might add - with its godawful main menu animation... ugh!
I know they did this to fit widescreen tvs, but geez! Don't
say its 1.66:1 when it's
not! Yeesh... I just hope they don't do the same thing to
The Lion King - which has also been announced to be in its OAR of 1.66:1. I surely hope it is... down with false advertizing!! Grr...
Okay, coming back from wild tangent now....
Disney is cuttin' corners any way they can, huh? I mean -
why take RDU's booklet
out of its case, then sell it? Unless this is a new print I got - and the way the Gold Collection sold, I'd be surprised that they would have to produce
more of a title. I thought the Movie Club was partially to get rid of all the extra GC dvds laying around... *shrug*
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:28 pm
by philipp616
I always thought that the 1:1,66 Disney DVDs wit anamorphic enhancement have little black bars on both sides so they are NOT cropped anyway...
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:29 pm
by Cinderelly
Paka:
I got my RDU dvd from best buy the first day it came out and the "Animals of the Outback" booklet was missing in mine also... Funny...

Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:31 pm
by philipp616
My Aristocats DVD also don't have the booklet mentioned on the cover...
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:33 pm
by Cinderelly
Now that i think of it, my aristocats didn't have a booklet either....What is BVHE coming to????????
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 7:00 pm
by Luke
philipp616 wrote:I always thought that the 1:1,66 Disney DVDs wit anamorphic enhancement have little black bars on both sides so they are NOT cropped anyway...
You are correct. RDU (and the other 1.66:1 16x9 titles) ARE 1.66:1 (or close enough, generally around 1.66:1 - 1.69:1 or so). They look 1.78:1 because the tiny side bars are lost to overscan. Watch it on a PC monitor and the bars are there.
Now as for that Outback booklet, I actually have two of them. One came in Hercules, I think. And the one in Rescuers Down Under as well. If you really want it, I might be able to dig up the second one if it's important.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:59 pm
by Paka
Wait - an "Animals of the Outback" booklet came with
Hercules? WTF?
Little miss completist me is interested in that spare though, Luke!

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 12:16 am
by Jack
Sadly, this no-insert trend is going to get worse. Universal announced they are going no longer use them, and several reports have been made that recent, newly released DVDs from various studios don't have them either.
Inserts aren't hugely important I know, but its an expected thing when you buy a DVD. Sometimes, you even get some photos/production notes in addition to chapter lists. I find it annoying that studios are slowly progressing in this insert absence.
The left sides of my future DVDs are going to start lookin' empty & bare.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 3:15 am
by 2099net
Well, the lack of insers doesn't bother me - Universal in the UK have had no inserts for months now. And they don't use "clear cases" or put text on screen next to the chapter on the selection menus.
Generally speaking, the UK has very few discs with inserts, mainly because we have 'clear cases' which allow the packaging artwork to show through the case, so the paper sleeve is printed on both sides, with the chapter listing on the reverse showing through the case. It's something I think works very well (think of how the card design on the inside of a digipak works).
That said, if a line of discs started with inserts being included, they should be included until the line finishes - so all Disney animated films should have inserts.
What niggles me more than lack of inserts is how "chapter selection" menus are done on most R2 discs. Because they are generally shipped to all countries in Europe, the menus show pictures only with no text. Nothing annoys me more than going to a chapter selection menu and seeing a static picture representing a scene, with no text and only number next to it. And sometimes we don't get an insert where one is supposed to be included, so we have no way of knowing what each chapter is.
Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 5:13 am
by Matty-Mouse
I didn't get the insert for my R2 "Dumbo" DVD

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 11:55 am
by Maerj
OKay, I just looked in my copy of Rescuers Down Under and no booklet. I checked my copy of Hercules and YES there it was! LOL, strange, but at least I got it, now I can magically whisk it away to my copy of Rescuers DU where it was supposed to be.
Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 12:04 pm
by Cinderelly
I don't have an the "Animal Outback" insert in my Hercules. This is because the hercules which i bought was one of the first released back in 1999 or 2000. It was released way before RDU came out. So i am out of luck...

But its ok, i guess with my former newspaper/yearbook editor talents (

) i can create one for the Rescuers pretty easily...
Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 2:33 pm
by Paka
Hehe - I'm seeing a "black market" of custom inserts and booklets starting up here...
Actually, I love the idea of a homemade piece to go with my dvds - a bit of a personal redemption/consolation for an otherwise crappy disc, imo.
Maybe we'll even start seeing custom cover art, too. Now
there would be a lucrative market!!

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:32 pm
by Hennie
Here in Holland the same thing, dvd's with no inlays

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:40 pm
by philipp616
here in Germany too...
