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Ratatouille Discussion and Trailers

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:27 pm
by Hogi Bear
Here is the French trailer of Ratatouille (I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if it's all French or French and English):

http://media.cinoche.com/bandesannonces ... he_480.mov (Medium - 13.7 MB)

It sounds interesting anyway, it'll more interesting to see the first full trailer, then the real discussions can start.

Enjoy

Edit: For those of you that are looking for an English version of the Trailer <a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... 302">click here</a>. Also, the French version still works, I think they may have been having Bandwidth problems.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:35 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
Unfortunately, the full trailer was in french, so I couldn't understand a word they were saying. :P

But even though it's too early to really judge it, I don't think it really looks good at all, especially seeing there were two of them, implying it's another buddy film. :roll:

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:39 pm
by singerguy04
I can't wait to see this trailor in english, but i think i'm going to agree with Timon/Pumbaa fan here. It looks like another Monsters Inc to me. I did like the animation for the most part though. My only problem was that it looked really glossy to me, though maybe that was just the restaurant lighting or something...

Another thing i've noticed is that the Pixar films have never had a female lead. I mean they have female sidekicks like Jesse, Boo, and Dori, but i wouldn't consider them to be leads.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:18 pm
by Fidget1234
the link doesn't work. says 'bad URL' from here.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:52 pm
by Luke
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:Unfortunately, the full trailer was in french, so I couldn't understand a word they were saying. :P

But even though it's too early to really judge it, I don't think it really looks good at all, especially seeing there were two of them, implying it's another buddy film. :roll:
I like how not only have you dismissed the film based on a teaser which you didn't understand a word of, but you've even pigeonholed it as a buddy comedy based on the fact that there were two rats talking to each other in a scene. How do you do it?!

Thanks for posting, Hogi Bear. I'm excited to see it in English. Lucky Aaron will get to tomorrow!

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:07 pm
by eaglebob
They took it down, does anyone have it downloaded to their harddrive and can maybe send it to me or upload it somewhere else? Thanks!

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:35 pm
by Kingpopper
I didn't like the way the main charater looked, I'll get use to it over the next year. The thing as a whole didn't have that Pixar look and feel to it. Still will probably be one Pixar's best.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:45 pm
by Harbinger
I think the colors on the rat is pretty ugly. But everything else looks nice.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:55 pm
by PixarFan
I didn't like the way the main character looked, I'll get use to it over the next year.
You know, there has not been a single Pixar teaser I've seen where I haven't thought "yuck! THAT's the main character?" I didn't like the look of Sully and Mike, or Marlin and Dory, or Mr. Incredible, or Lightning McQueen. Yet every time, by the time the film rolls around in theaters, I love the look of the characters!

Wow...the trailer has vanished...rats (no pun intended)! I wanted to see that again. Anyway, I personally thought this was Pixar's best teaser trailer yet...and I can't even understand what they're saying! I loved the chase through the kitchen, and the animation was superb for a teaser. I don't usually like Pixar's teasers, but this one had me excited. But the one thing that made me laugh was the "Ratatouille" title flipping around so you could see the pronunciation. That struck me as funny. :lol:

By the way, AintItCoolNews has a rough English translation of the teaser...not that it will be much good now that the teaser itself is gone.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:56 am
by Kingpopper
PixarFan wrote:
I didn't like the way the main character looked, I'll get use to it over the next year.
You know, there has not been a single Pixar teaser I've seen where I haven't thought "yuck! THAT's the main character?" I didn't like the look of Sully and Mike, or Marlin and Dory, or Mr. Incredible, or Lightning McQueen. Yet every time, by the time the film rolls around in theaters, I love the look of the characters!

Wow...the trailer has vanished...rats (no pun intended)! I wanted to see that again. Anyway, I personally thought this was Pixar's best teaser trailer yet...and I can't even understand what they're saying! I loved the chase through the kitchen, and the animation was superb for a teaser. I don't usually like Pixar's teasers, but this one had me excited. But the one thing that made me laugh was the "Ratatouille" title flipping around so you could see the pronunciation. That struck me as funny. :lol:

By the way, AintItCoolNews has a rough English translation of the teaser...not that it will be much good now that the teaser itself is gone.
Mr. Incredible's nose still bothers me.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:00 am
by Disney-Fan
Luke wrote:I like how not only have you dismissed the film based on a teaser which you didn't understand a word of, but you've even pigeonholed it as a buddy comedy based on the fact that there were two rats talking to each other in a scene. How do you do it?!
The truth is, there seems to be an anti-Pixar following as of late. I can never fully grasp how such a following came to be, but none the less it's alive and kicking... Go figure! :?

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:08 am
by Kenai
I actually thought it looked charming, considering how I don't like Pixar, that's a step forward.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:53 pm
by TheSequelOfDisney
What do you click to watch it? I can't figure it out! I don't speak French!

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:44 pm
by ichabod
Well I have to say as a person who has never really been convinced by CGI quality from any studio, the animation has won me over! Granted it's only a short teaser, but i thought the animation looked wonderful!

Also i love the fact that the mouse is blue! :D

Unfortunately, i have to say the fact that it's looking like a buddy film where the main character is supported by a stupid fat mouse seeming to be indicating that it will be another entry on the 'Pixar buddy movies' list.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:59 pm
by corrwill
Darn it's gone. Even reading it I was tempted but then I was like well should I wait for the Official one in Cars and see it on the big screen for the first time? Yeah I am going to hold off anyway.

Has anyone seen the preview for the "DREAMWORKS COPY" I think it's called "down the drain" I was mad when I saw that it was about mice, but the trailer looked more like chicken run with stop motion. I am and will always be a PIXAR fan over Dreamworks. The Deamworks characters always strike me as being too hard where as Pixar are more rounded which mimics the original ideals walt set into play long ago. Round is always more loveable.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:25 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
corrwill wrote:Has anyone seen the preview for the "DREAMWORKS COPY" I think it's called "down the drain" I was mad when I saw that it was about mice, but the trailer looked more like chicken run with stop motion. I am and will always be a PIXAR fan over Dreamworks. The Deamworks characters always strike me as being too hard where as Pixar are more rounded which mimics the original ideals walt set into play long ago. Round is always more loveable.
"Flushed Away"(the title of the film you're thinking of) is not made by Dreamworks Animation. It's made by Aardman, similar to Pixar in which they have their films ditributed by Dreamworks Animation. Also "Flushed Away" has been in production for almost 10 years now. Far longer than Pixar thought of "Ratatouille".

Since you made the comparison, I think I can safely say "Flushed Away" will definetely be better. Aardman has levels of more originality and creative ideas than Pixar can ever dream of.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:34 pm
by Hogi Bear
It looks really interesting and even though I haven't read read the translation, I could just imagine what they're saying just from visual language.


Unfortunately the disappeared, but in general the links I post can be right clicked and "Saved As" or copy and pasted into a download manager.

If you've already viewed it and haven't cleared the cache of your browser, then it should still be on your hard drive.

Windows:
Firefox: /Documents and Settings/<Your Name>/Application Data/Mozilla/Firefox
Internet Explorer: /Documents and Settings/<Your Name>/Local Settings/Temporary Internet Files (Windows 98 will be in your windows folder I think C:\windows\temporary...........)

<Your Name> may be you user name or default user or All Users, just look around

And as for Netscape, Opera, Safiri I'm not sure what they will be and I'm not sure how it works on a Mac.

Just lok for a file that is about 13.7 MB (~14,000 KB), it may be named with just numbers (Firefox).

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:12 pm
by magicalwands
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:Since you made the comparison, I think I can safely say "Flushed Away" will definetely be better. Aardman has levels of more originality and creative ideas than Pixar can ever dream of.
Yet no one has ever heard of them.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:45 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
magicalwands wrote:
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:Since you made the comparison, I think I can safely say "Flushed Away" will definetely be better. Aardman has levels of more originality and creative ideas than Pixar can ever dream of.
Yet no one has ever heard of them.
Go to England. :wink:

But yeah, not many people in American really know Aardman, I mean who wants to see a movie with a cast of people with British accients? :roll: Well, at least Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run has a decent sized fan-base. :)

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 1:09 am
by 2099net
magicalwands wrote:
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:Since you made the comparison, I think I can safely say "Flushed Away" will definetely be better. Aardman has levels of more originality and creative ideas than Pixar can ever dream of.
Yet no one has ever heard of them.
Whatever. The United States aren't the only country in the world you know. Aardman have a keen following worldwide.

Nick Park from Aardman is the only person to have been nominated for the Best Short Film (Animated) Oscar® for every short animated film he's ever made. (And he's won each time too, apart from 1991 when his A Grand Day Out lost to Creature Comforts... Another Nick Park film!) He was also responsible for the creation of the Best Animated Film category itself with Chicken Run (although to be fair, the major push was probably from Katzenberg at Dreamworks - he's good at that sort of thing - but he was no doubt doing the same at Disney when his beloved Oscar® bait Pocahontas and others were released):
There was a major push to get the film nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards. The failure to get the nomination, and the popularity of the film among Academy members led to the inclusion of Best Animated Feature for the next Academy Awards (2002), which was won by fellow Dreamworks film Shrek (2001).
And of course since they introduced the Best Animated Film category, his first entry won that too.

Sure. Nobody's heard of them. :roll:

Many thanks to T/PF for defending Aardman for me. You have to remember Aardman have an arrangement with Dreamworks Animation like Pixar's old relationship with Disney. Aardman do get complete creative control over their movies, and they would not do a copycat movie just because Dreamworks told them to. Especially if you look at their Oscar® history.

The Flushed Away had its conceptual genesis while Aardman were working on Chicken Run's script and they discovered they were enjoying writing for the two rat characters. In fact, in the film's original outline, Flushed Away was going to be a semi-sequel to Chicken Run and include the same two rat characters at some point in the story. However, they decided to drop the period setting. (Chicken Run is set in the late 50's/early 60's - I can't remember exactly when). That's how most stories are created and developed. Organically, not "copied".

Now, being as Chicken Run was released in 2000, but was at least 4 years in its making from the initial story outline, its fair to say Flushed Away has been on Aardmans 'to-do' list since 1998, if not earlier.

This article here shows that Flushed Away was announced for the first time some time before mid-2002 (It is mentioned in an article written in July 2002).

http://uk.filmforce.ign.com/articles/365/365742p1.html

Searching for Ratropolis (one of its working titles) shows that work on the movie started in 2002.
The animators have also announced another joint venture with Dreamworks. Ratropolis, will begin production later this year after Spielberg's company decides whether to include computer-generated sequences alongside the more conventional "claymation" technique that Aardman favors.
http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2002-07-26#celeb10