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Many Disney fans now are obsessed with seeing Walt era TV shows in the Walt Disney Treasures from 40-50 years ago like Mickey Mouse Club and Disneyland, so I just wondered; do you think a lot of people in 2056 will be eager to see the likes of Lady and the Tramp 2, High School Musical, That's so Raven and Lizzie Mc Guire? I know that a lot of us hate these sort of things, but they are undeniably popular, and I think that they may have a cult follwing in the future.

Your prediction?

Well, I can't see why not.

If there is still a marketable home entertainment format in 50 years - and we are not all simply getting our content via some digital tranmission service or other technology - the DTVs and DCOMs will be just as much a part of entertainment's bygone era as 'made for TV' serials Walt did back in the 1950s.

There is ALWAYS a market for nostalgia, regardless of what era you are in.

Upon reading the title of this thread, I thought to myself, "DEAR GOD, I HOPE NOT!" Then again, Loomis is right; nostalgia happens to every single generation, and someday <em>this</em> generation of kids will whine about the good ol' days of 2006. Nostalgia recycles itself at a faster pace nowadays, so when that happens I'll feel ridiculously ancient. (My "good ol' days" have long passed, but I barely have a decade on today's middle schoolers. ) Still, I don't see today's crop of TV series and movies being as cherished as Walt-era material. I have a feeling that stuff like Lizzie McGuire and High School Musical will date poorly because they don't generate much appeal outside the modern tween (and adult Disney fanatic) audience.

Yes, some of these films will have some following 20 years down the line.

But we all have to agree that its become so easy to produce content these days that they will be lost in the shuffle. I mean made for tv films don't have as much press as would a theatrical feature would.

It will be interesting to see if the definition of nostagia will be different in 20 years time.

Why would an original movie that is not really that good to begin with ever be considered a classic or have a 5th Anniversary celebration, much less a 50th Remembrance.

Of all the original movie made for Disney Channel, I can't think of any that I would ever own, much less spend any additional money on down the road. Most of them are pretty lame, such as Life Size and all of its unneeded sequels, or any of those Lizzie McGuire things with a no talent like Hilary Duff. Now don't get me wrong, Hilary Duff has been in some pretty good movies, but I think that she is way overrated. And to contradict something I said earlier, I own the "Lizzie McGuire Movie", but that was made for the theaters not for television. I didn't know what I was going to see, because the trailers were so good for the movie. I am not sorry that I own it, and I do watch it pretty often.

That being said, I don't think that Disney channel original movies hold much water as far as whether they are available on DVD or Videotape or whatever. If they would spend as much time making quality movies for the motion picture-going public as they do for a cable television channel that a lot of people don't have or don't watch, maybe we could get some decent movies in the theaters once again.

I guess the nostalgia factor could eventually give some of this material an afterlife years or decades from now.

However, present-day TV shows can or will never be WALT Disney Treasures...

DCOM being Treasures I don't think so maybe a great update edition but that's probably all.

Who knows maybe Disney will make a DCOM channel....

Of course they'll become treasures!

I mean after all, Alex Pantoja is the Leonard Matlin of the next generation!

MickeyMousePal wrote: Who knows maybe Disney will make a DCOM channel....

Man..... I WISH!!! I love the DCOMs! I admit there are some stinkers that I wont even watch. But there are many of them that are very very entertaining. I know in 50 years, I may not still "treasure" these, but I know that I would love to feel abit of my past through these movies. Of course, other things will obviously be cherished more, but there will always be a place in my heart for the DCOMs.

P.S. Lizzie McGuire movie was the worst thing that ever happened......to anyone........ever......

SofaKing381222 wrote:P.S. Lizzie McGuire movie was the worst thing that ever happened......to anyone........ever......

I completely and totally agree with this statement!

I'll probably still like some of them in 50 years, but I'm not sure about people like us in general. I'll watch them for the nostalgia factor (and basically for the fact that some of them are just great all-around films).

In 50 years, I'll be old and wrinkly and I'll be sitting on my old man recliner and I'll be trailing in and out of consciousness and all of a sudden, a picture of Kirsten Storms in her chessy Zenon outfit will flow into my brain and I'll be, like,

"whoa...that was random..."

Finchx0rz wrote:Upon reading the title of this thread, I thought to myself, "DEAR GOD, I HOPE NOT!"

probably not, they aren't exactly artisically well made.
One thing we must remeber is that the old Disney shorts are timeless. And to say Lizzie Macguire is timeless is blasphemy.

GhostHost wrote:probably not, they aren't exactly artisically well made.
One thing we must remeber is that the old Disney shorts are timeless. And to say Lizzie Macguire is timeless is blasphemy.

Erm, I should note that I'm comparing the DCOMs etc to how some of the Disneyland/Mickey Mouse Club shows which have a following today, not the shorts.

dvdjunkie wrote:Of all the original movie made for Disney Channel, I can't think of any that I would ever own, much less spend any additional money on down the road.

If you ever change your mind, Bill, I'd highly recommend these:

The Color of Friendship
The Jennie Project
The Luck of the Irish
Horse Sense
Jumping Ship
Motocrossed
The Even Stevens Movie
Tiger Cruise
Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoff (okay, maybe not...that's one of my DCOM guilty pleasures...)

dvdjunkie wrote:Life Size and all of its unneeded sequels

Life-Size didn't have any sequels, but I wouldn't mind one for the sheer camp of it...

Anyways, I'm kind of unsure just how much staying power the DCOMS and DCOSs will have 50 years from now. If we honestly look back at the shows from 50 years ago, for every 1 timeless classic 50 years ago, there were likely 10-20 forgettable ones. I can see the same now. Anyone can easily say that Friends will be remembered 50 years from now, but can the same be said for...Hope & Faith? Using DCOS's as an example, 50 years from now we may find the futuristic devices of Phil of the Future comical but the show still a treasure, and at the same time wonder why The Suite Life of Zach and Cody was popular. I'm not knocking Suite Life, I'm actually fond of the show, but I can't see any true staying power beyond its initial run (and maybe beyond 5-10 years of reruns on Disney Channel afterwards).

With DCOMS, they're essentially TV movies, and how many TV movies from 50 years ago do people remember? How many get rerun at all? A few may be remembered for being a damn good film (The Color of Friendship and of course, The Even Stevens Movie), but come on, will anyone care about a movie like "Ready to Run" 5 or 50 years from now? Hardly anyone cares about it now.

Escapay

No, because the movies have to be good to start with.

Since I haven't voiced, well actually typed, my opinion I would have to say that some will and some won't. I'm pretty sure that the most popular ones will probably still be remembered in 50 years, at least I'll probably remember them. For example, I would defentily remember The Color of Friendship, this was a totally awesome movie that I would recommend to anyone, even people who don't like DCOMs, High School Musical, it's a guilty pleasure, Cheetah Girls, okay maybe not, but I thought the songs were catchy, and upbeat,

TheSequelofDisney wrote:Since I haven't voiced, well actually typed, my opinion I would have to say that some will and some won't. I'm pretty sure that the most popular ones will probably still be remembered in 50 years, at least I'll probably remember them. For example, I would defentily remember The Color of Friendship, this was a totally awesome movie that I would recommend to anyone, even people who don't like DCOMs, High School Musical, it's a guilty pleasure, Cheetah Girls, okay maybe not, but I thought the songs were catchy, and upbeat,

I agree, I think that some will be better remembered than others. For the most part, any TV shows created to satiate the market for pop idols (Raven, Amanda, etc.) will be remembered down the road somewhat like Elvis movies and the Monkees are remembered today: almost out of a kitschy sense of fondness instead of true reverence. However, if a film/TV show can attract a wide audience and engage people across demographic lines, then it will stand a better chance of enduring the test of time.

Another thing to consider, and I think some others have mentioned this as well, is that the amount of what used to be offered on TV 40 or 50 years ago is nowhere near what it is today. Companies like Disney can afford to try and hit the most profitable demographics, because they know that for every show geared towards a 'tween, there are numerous others directed to young men, middle-aged women, housewives, pre-schoolers...you name it. In Walt's time, TV viewers had much fewer programs to choose from, which necessitated making shows that everyone could watch and enjoy.

I think it would be great if these films are remembered in the future. I know a lot of my friends and I watched the DCOM's. I think they play a part in a lot of kids lives, and look at what is popular now... I loved Care Bears as a child and I never would have expected them to come back out granted they are not as good as the original, but when kids buy the toys they will probably want the orginal movies too. I think if some were rememebered I think is should be the older ones such as Zenon, The Color of Friend Ship, Don't Look Under the Bed, Halloween Town, The Luck of the Irish and Brink! and the rest of the older ones. Although I do appreciate the new ones I like the older ones better as I was still younger when they came out.