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Quality of disc art in some releases!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:55 pm
by reyquila
Haven't you guys noticed that the disc prints in some DVD's looks a little low budget. The discs are shiny and translucent. You can even see the codes from the playable side. Please comment!!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:15 pm
by Jungleprince_55
I hate that shiny new translucent disc art they have been using on several buena vista dvd i have seen as of late. Bambi and Flightplan are the first that come to mind, It looks ugly to me. I like the solid disc art they used before.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:24 pm
by MadonnasManOne
Jungleprince_55 wrote:I hate that shiny new translucent disc art they have been using on several buena vista dvd i have seen as of late. Bambi and Flightplan are the first that come to mind, It looks ugly to me. I like the solid disc art they used before.
Add to that list The Golden Girls: The Complete Fourth Season. The disc's are translucent green, and do not look as good as the previous three seasons disc's. I hate it when they change something, and can't be consistent!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:33 pm
by DefyGravity
I prefer the full color disc designs to these new semi-transparant ones too. I hate the way the Bambi II DVD looks. I suppose it matches the effect on the slipcover, but it just looks so ugly.
I wonder how much Disney is really saving with this new disc art? I'm guessing it has to be a cost issue, because if they're doing it for aesthetic reasons...I think they're horribly misguided.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:49 pm
by jamminjake245
Yeah, I noticed this started with Cinderalla: Platinum edition. I haven't even watched the moive before..and I own it!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:02 pm
by DefyGravity
Yeah, I noticed this started with Cinderalla: Platinum edition. I haven't even watched the moive before..and I own it!
It actually looked nice on the Cinderella discs, because the character and title graphics were opaque. And I thought the plain silver background worked well. I still prefer full-color artwork, but that one was designed rather well.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:27 pm
by NarniaDis
Sky High has it also and its annoying
NarniaDis
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:31 pm
by dvdjunkie
I think you all are a bunch of nit-pickers. If the movie plays perfectly you should have nothing to complain about. Who can see the art when the disc is in your player anyway? Unless you have one of the 'magical see-through' disc players you can't see the artwork on the disc, so why does it matter. It seems like no one is ever happy with what Disney does with their discs today. I don't find anything wrong with any of the disc art because I just care about the content of the disc and as long as it plays the movie and doesn't skip or do anything funny, then it is all right with me. C'mon let's lighten up in the criticism, start enjoying your DVD's for what they are.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:07 pm
by reyquila
dvdjunkie wrote:I think you all are a bunch of nit-pickers. If the movie plays perfectly you should have nothing to complain about. Who can see the art when the disc is in your player anyway? Unless you have one of the 'magical see-through' disc players you can't see the artwork on the disc, so why does it matter. It seems like no one is ever happy with what Disney does with their discs today. I don't find anything wrong with any of the disc art because I just care about the content of the disc and as long as it plays the movie and doesn't skip or do anything funny, then it is all right with me. C'mon let's lighten up in the criticism, start enjoying your DVD's for what they are.

I agree with you!!! I'm juts commenting on the fact that the quality changed. Anyway: Long live Disney movies !!!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:09 pm
by Jungleprince_55
Actually, I Meant Bambi II. Bambi has awesome Disc Art.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:56 pm
by Tarzan.
I haven't seen this new disc art because my last movie was Cinderella, but I guess I'll see it when I buy LATT, but do you really don't know which is the playing side or you are just exaggerating?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:05 pm
by Escapay
While I agree with dvdjunkie (disc art is an added bonus, but not necessary for the full enjoyment of the DVD), at least be glad Disney still uses disc art (in most cases). Though I haven't bought any as of late, I've heard that some of WB's catalogue titles no longer use disc art at all, that it's pick and choose which gets disc art and which doesn't.
And even Disney has sent out titles sans disc art. And I"m talking about releases post 2003 or so, when disc art has become the norm. The North Avenue Irregulars comes to mind, as it's the only one I own from Disney post-2003 without any disc art at all.
Escapay
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:32 am
by MadonnasManOne
dvdjunkie wrote:I think you all are a bunch of nit-pickers. If the movie plays perfectly you should have nothing to complain about. Who can see the art when the disc is in your player anyway? Unless you have one of the 'magical see-through' disc players you can't see the artwork on the disc, so why does it matter. It seems like no one is ever happy with what Disney does with their discs today. I don't find anything wrong with any of the disc art because I just care about the content of the disc and as long as it plays the movie and doesn't skip or do anything funny, then it is all right with me. C'mon let's lighten up in the criticism, start enjoying your DVD's for what they are.

No offense, Bill, but it's called making a statement about something we recognize is happening, as of late. That's not being nit-picky. We do have the right to have a conversation based upon an observation. Why does that have to be considered being nit-picking? Nowhere in any of the statements I read, did anyone say that they do not enjoy the contents of the DVD's, because of the disc art.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:59 am
by singerguy04
the only one i really noticed and it kinda bothers me is on the DuclTales the movie disc. it's gross bc the overall color of the disc is a sandy brown color. it just looks a little akward.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:11 am
by 2099net
DefyGravity wrote:I wonder how much Disney is really saving with this new disc art? I'm guessing it has to be a cost issue, because if they're doing it for aesthetic reasons...I think they're horribly misguided.
Again, people
assume Disney are cheapening out, without even considering other reasons.
Disney are using the translucent art because it is harder for bootleggers to copy. Of course, in a few months that won't be the case - I'm sure they will get the materials and equipment they need - but for now, bootleggers are still using solid artwork on their copies.
Why does everything Disney do automatically be met with cries of "cheapness"? You're all like rabid dogs, instantly attacking anything in sight without consideration or understanding.
Really, Disney US should just go the whole hog and use the hologram on the disc system they use on all their international releases (as well as hologram stickers on the case). I can't see why they don't. It's not difficult is it Disney?
If I buy an officially licenced NBA game for my console, it has a hologram stuck on it, marking it as "official" merchandise. So why can't Disney do the same on their cases?
And as for on the DVD, most bootleggers will never be able to imprint holograms on the DVD's rim.
Both would settle issues of legitability instantly.
Disc Hologram
Case Hologram
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:43 am
by reyquila
I'm jusrt making an observation that may have an explanation. I'm a fierce Disney defender, so my motive if not pure criticism.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:48 pm
by funnykiddy
Ummmm..... bootlegs and all aside, I just checked ou the discs, and I actually like the new transluscent disc art better than the older opaque ones. The colours don't look as dark.

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:14 pm
by MadonnasManOne
2099net wrote:
Again, people
assume Disney are cheapening out, without even considering other reasons.
Disney are using the translucent art because it is harder for bootleggers to copy. Of course, in a few months that won't be the case - I'm sure they will get the materials and equipment they need - but for now, bootleggers are still using solid artwork on their copies.
Why does everything Disney do automatically be met with cries of "cheapness"? You're all like rabid dogs, instantly attacking anything in sight without consideration or understanding.
Why is it so hard for some to see that this is a conversation about an observation?!
Do not tell me I'm like a rabid dog! I'm simply stating that I do not like the translucent disc art! I am not saying that Disney is doing this to save money, I'm not attacking Disney, and I'm not attacking the contents of the DVD's. If you do not like my, or others' opinion, that's fine, but, do not insult us by calling us rabid dogs. That's incredibly rude, and it is not appreciated!
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:35 pm
by azul017
I like the translucent disc art. It gives the DVD a new, fresh look. However, the translucent art has been varying from release to release. Toy Story 2: SE doesn't have that, and neither did The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Studios are still opting for full-blown color artwork (like Universal and Fox), while a few releases aside from Disney's have that translucent art (such as Dreamworks's War of the Worlds).
Sure, the switch can be annoying consistency-wise, but I'm not going to complain about that. It's what's in the disc that counts... I could care less about the disc art.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:59 am
by 2099net
MadonnasManOne wrote:
Why is it so hard for some to see that this is a conversation about an observation?!
Do not tell me I'm like a rabid dog! I'm simply stating that I do not like the translucent disc art! I am not saying that Disney is doing this to save money, I'm not attacking Disney, and I'm not attacking the contents of the DVD's. If you do not like my, or others' opinion, that's fine, but, do not insult us by calling us rabid dogs. That's incredibly rude, and it is not appreciated!
I never singled out your reply MM1, and I did a pre-empetive attack IN GENERAL after one such posting because I know from experience what these threads lead to - excuses to call Disney cheap, it had already started, and it was bound to continue.
I've been on other fan forums, and watched them turn into depressing, negative places where every other comment is motivated by hatred or cynicism because the "fans" have got too close to what they are supposed to love.
It's OK for people to post messages about deals and discounts and price-matching when they're buying their DVDs, but as soon as Disney changes something, with the possibility of saving money its a licence to critisise them.
You say I'm rude. How do you think people from Disney feel when they come to this site, which they will - trust me - and their hardwork is labeled a "cheapquel" or people are accusing Disney of saving a few cents by using a different disc art method?
I have no problem with people not liking it - and I never critisised people who said that, but I do personally think it is rather trivial. That said, I have a "thing" about the lack of trailers on all new Disney releases, something others find trivial - why have a advert for the film if you've already purchased it?
But it is to make the discs harder to bootleg convincingly.
Different inks and equipment are needed to print directly onto a disc's surface (as in the Cinderella discs), and at the moment, its something most bootleggers will be unable to do accurately in bulk.
It also makes it harder to scan and duplicate the pictures too, as the light is reflected back and distorted - this is possibly why we're not seeing that much pre-release disc art released by Disney these days too. Again, they're making it harder for the pirates to function.
I've not seen any of the other discs (I have a Sky High somewhere, but can't say I noticed anything about the disc art), but I imagine they are all the same - printed directly onto the disc.
While I don't think casual piracy is a big a threat as Disney and the Studios make it out to be, I do think "factory produced" copies of discs which are passed off as genuine, often to unsuspecting and innocent people, are a threat and do cost the studios lots of lost revenue. Disney's change of disc art is therefore logical. It may be a detail lost to the casual purchaser, but it will help investigators quickly identify pirate discs (for now - like I say, the pirates will soon get on top of the situation). And Disney has every right to try to prevent this.