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Another one bites the dust!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:41 pm
by Escapay
I have to say...that was an odd outburst and a surprise banning for princesssnowbunny :o . But let's not dwell on the past.

BTW. the "you guys are idiots!" topic was deleted whilst I was in a reply box whilst also on anotheor window looking up copyright laws and such, and since I didn't want my 30 seconds of research to go to waste, here's the stuff I found...

US Copyright Act of 1976
No Electronic Theft Act of 1997
US Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998
Intellectual Property Protection and Courts Amendments Act of 2004

What is a "copyright"?

A copyright is a form of protection provided by the laws of the United States to the authors and creators of "original works of authorship." This includes literary (like books and magazine articles), dramatic (like screenplays and commercials), musical (like songs and recordings), artistic (like paintings and sculptures), and certain other original creative works.

Copyright law generally gives the owner of copyright the exclusive right to reproduce the work, distribute copies of that work, perform and/or display the work in public, and if an audio recording, publicly transmit and perform the recording digitally. It also gives the copyright owner the exclusive right to authorize others to do these acts. (Radio stations are allowed to perform musical compositions (i.e., songs) publicly because they have the permission of the music publishers (or their collective representatives, such as ASCAP, BMI and SESAC.)

If you buy a song or album on a CD, can you legally copy it? What are the legal ways you can make copies?

It is generally permissible to make copies of a lawfully purchased CD for your own personal use. This means you can copy that CD onto another CD for your car, for example, or onto a tape for your Walkman. Or, you can make a copy of the CD on your hard drive to play the file via your computer. Burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player won’t usually raise concerns so long as the copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own and the copy is just for your personal use. Giving away the copy or lending it to others for copying is not a personal use and is not legal.

You have a portable MP3 player. (includes – iPods) If you buy a CD and download it onto your MP3 player, are you breaking the law? What if you download your friend's CD?
It is generally legal to burn or download a CD you bought onto your own MP3 player. Downloading your friend's CD is a different story. It is illegal to download music onto any digital playback devices you own if you have not purchased the music. Giving away the copy or lending it to others for copying is not a personal use and is not legal.

If you buy a song or album online, how can you legally copy it?

Each site has different restrictions on the legal ways to copy the music. As a rule of thumb, once you've bought a song or album online, you often can play that file on your digital media players like an MP3 player, or your computers, or by burning the file to a CD for playback on a CD player or DVD player. However, you generally are only permitted to play this file on your own equipment; you cannot give the file to your friends or family to play on their own devices.

The U.S. government established the Copyright Act in 1976 to protect artists' "original works of authorship." These include music and lyrics, film, literature, software programs, video games, photography, sculpture, architecture, choreographic work, and sound recordings.

Under the law, a work is automatically copyrighted once it is "fixed" (meaning printed or recorded). The artist also can officially register his or her work with the government, which provides certain enhanced remedies and other benefits. In addition, the artist can sell or transfer the copyright to another person or a company to handle ownership of the work. This is often what happens with artists and their publishers and record labels. The artist lets the publisher and record label control the copyright.

Can you download published music from free websites? Can you borrow a CD from the Public Library and then copy it to your computer?

What's the bottom line? It's simple: Swapping and/or sharing music that's been downloaded from an unlicensed Peer-2-peer (P2P) Internet site or copied from a Public Library CD and shared with friends violates its copyright and - is against the law.

What are the consequences?

Copyright laws got tighter in 1997, when the No Electronic Theft Act, or NET, was passed. Under NET, copyright holders zero in on people who regularly share files online (including music, software, videos, and games), especially those who do so in large quantities and make money on it. For example, when a copyrighted work earns a downloader more than $1,000, he or she can be criminally prosecuted, fined, and sent to jail.

Is That Fair?

There are two minor exceptions to the Copyright Act: "Fair Use" and "public domain." The Fair Use doctrine allows copyrighted works to be reproduced for limited purposes, such as teaching, news reporting, criticism, comment, and research. But beware: Courts have already ruled that downloading and uploading copyrighted music without permission does not fall under "fair use."

A copyright generally remains valid for 70 years after the author of a work has died. After that, the work falls into the "public domain," and may be freely used by anyone. Remember: Just because a copyrighted work is no longer being reproduced or distributed, it doesn't mean that it's automatically in the "public domain."

Escapay

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:44 pm
by Luke
Thanks for that information, Escapay, Esq.! :) I'm glad your research didn't go to waste.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:17 pm
by RyougaLolakie
Thank you for this information, Escapay. I'm sure that some people who don't understand the "term" copyright, will have to learn it from the truth. Or else, they will have the consequences in jail time or worse.

As for banning "princesssnowbunny", I was quite surprised and Luke didn't even put her status, "in the vaults" instead of "banned". Well, in my opinion, I hate unfriendly users especially if a nice user got a bad temper and ended up in a flame-war. You know, it isn't right. :headshake:

On the other hand, memnv has a huge point reguards to copyright laws. I would congratulate him for proving princesssnowbunny wrong.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:36 pm
by memnv
Thank You RyougaLolakie, I have nothing against princesssnowbunny, she was just out of hand with some of the things she said then when Luke closed the other post she opened the new one. I was not trying to fight with anybody.
Escapay, nice job on the copyright information.
Luke, Thanks for fixing the problem. I dont know why she had to fight about the subject

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:54 pm
by RyougaLolakie
memnv wrote:Thank You RyougaLolakie, I have nothing against princesssnowbunny, she was just out of hand with some of the things she said then when Luke closed the other post she opened the new one. I was not trying to fight with anybody.
My pleasure. :)

I guess I was being too paranoid for not having flame-wars and I'm sure that you didn't do any harm between you and princesssnowbunny. Now I realized that you didn't do anything harm to her at all, I felt relief. :P

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:33 pm
by memnv
thanks

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:44 pm
by Zoltack
:lol: I had a feeling when she started that "Can someone Burn me Disney DVD's" thread, she was going to start trouble. It was probably a good thing that I wasn't there. ;)

Good info Escapay, even though I pretty much knew all of that but sometimes I need a refresher.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:42 pm
by Pasta67
princesssnowbunny started a riot and got banned?! Aww, I missed i-I mean, geez that's terrible.

On another note, interesting information Escapay. Cracking good read.

Yeah, I say "Cracking" now. I'm hooked on the Wallace & Gromit movie. :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:52 pm
by Escapay
Pasta67 wrote:Yeah, I say "Cracking" now. I'm hooked on the Wallace & Gromit movie. :lol:
:lol:

Get a Wallace avatar and we can be the Wallace and Gromit of UD! Of course, I'd have to shut up and express myself with eyebrows...

Escapay

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:04 pm
by Luke
Escapay wrote::lol:

Get a Wallace avatar and we can be the Wallace and Gromit of UD! Of course, I'd have to shut up and express myself with eyebrows...

Escapay
But there's already a Wallace:

<img src="http://www.unc.edu/~ahwall/me.jpg"> & <img src="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/ima ... 76b6db.jpg"> = Wallace & Gromit of UD!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:08 pm
by Pasta67
:lol: Funny, Luke.
Escapay wrote:Get a Wallace avatar and we can be the Wallace and Gromit of UD! Of course, I'd have to shut up and express myself with eyebrows...
I would actually get a good laugh if you tried to redo your "copyright" explanation as Gromit. Though I'm not really sure there's a smilie for "Copyright Act of '76". :lol:

The Wallace avatar is a "maybe" though. If I got one, I'd have to abandon Carpet! Onoz!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:08 pm
by Escapay
Luke wrote:
Escapay wrote::lol:

Get a Wallace avatar and we can be the Wallace and Gromit of UD! Of course, I'd have to shut up and express myself with eyebrows...

Escapay
But there's already a Wallace:

<img src="http://www.unc.edu/~ahwall/me.jpg"> & <img src="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/ima ... 76b6db.jpg"> = Wallace & Gromit of UD!
LOL, I forgot about Aaron! So I suspect Aaron will want me to serve him breakfast every morning now by the pulling of a lever. I'm fine with that, but if he gives me Techno-Trousers for my birthday, I'm going back to Mutley.

Escapay

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:12 pm
by Escapay
Pasta67 wrote: I would actually get a good laugh if you tried to redo your "copyright" explanation as Gromit. Though I'm not really sure there's a smilie for "Copyright Act of '76". :lol:

The Wallace avatar is a "maybe" though. If I got one, I'd have to abandon Carpet! Onoz!
Hehe, that would be a problem. "ASCAP, BMI and SESAC" would be tough to express as well!

And the Lukester pointed out we have a Wallace (Aaron)...but what's one more Wallace at UD? You two could alternate. Aaron will be Wallace on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, you'll be Wallace on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, and Sundays you can both have a day off and we'll have honorary Wallaces every Sunday!

Escapay

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:22 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Escapay wrote:Aaron will be Wallace on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, you'll be Wallace on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, and Sundays you can both have a day off and we'll have honorary Wallaces every Sunday!
I can just be Wallance!

-Aaron

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:16 am
by Raydawggie
I miss everything around here...... :(

Hm, besides the Secret Santa deadbeats we don't have too many bannings around here, so it's always a surprise. Sounds like it was deserved, though.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:19 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
AwallaceUNC wrote: I can just be Wallance!
But that would be copyright from me! :wink:

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:30 pm
by Just Myself
Raydawggie wrote:I miss everything around here...... :(
Don't feel too bad, Ray. It's not a pretty sight....

...WHEN GOOD USERS GO BAD!

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:03 pm
by reyquila
I can add that even playing it in public will be a violation. You need a license for that. I'm a labor and employment law attorney, but I know a thing or two about copyright laws.