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what's going on with society? is it even safe to raise a child anymore? children are committing crimes younger and younger these days. and i mean SERIOUS CRIMES, like rape. How is a mother supposed to raise a child?


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do you have any sources? I've never heard of that before...

what do you mean? all over the news in my area is a 13 year old just raped and beat a six year old

well, maybe a solution to that is to move to the suburbs or the countryside...

apparently. it just disgusts and disturbs me to no end. what's going on? why can't people just do the right thing?

Alan wrote:well, maybe a solution to that is to move to the suburbs or the countryside...

You have the same chance in the suburbs and countryside.

princesssnowbunny wrote:apparently. it just disgusts and disturbs me to no end. what's going on? why can't people just do the right thing?

Not everyone commits rape...

Alan wrote: I don't see how thats true. You're more likely to get raped in a crowded city than in the midwest when you're the only house for miles...

FYI- the majority of rapes are committed by someone who is close to the victim, such as a boyfriend or spouse. A boyfriend can rape you just as easily in the country- as a matter of fact, it would probably be a lot easier.

princesssnowbunny wrote:what do you mean? all over the news in my area is a 13 year old just raped and beat a six year old

Isn't that great news?

Alan wrote:

castleinthesky wrote: You have the same chance in the suburbs and countryside.

I don't see how thats true. You're more likely to get raped in a crowded city than in the midwest when you're the only house for miles...

Uh, no. If there are less people in a place, then it would be easier to comit a crime, such as rape.

daryliscool1 wrote:

Alan wrote: I don't see how thats true. You're more likely to get raped in a crowded city than in the midwest when you're the only house for miles...

FYI- the majority of rapes are committed by someone who is close to the victim, such as a boyfriend or spouse. A boyfriend can rape you just as easily in the country- as a matter of fact, it would probably be a lot easier.

Yeah, but I live in the suburbs (in the woods...) and I've lived in my town for like 10 years and haven't heard of any rape case in the town.

Alan wrote:

castleinthesky wrote: You have the same chance in the suburbs and countryside.

I don't see how thats true. You're more likely to get raped in a crowded city than in the midwest when you're the only house for miles...

That's the biggest load of crap I have ever heard.

Alan wrote:

daryliscool1 wrote: FYI- the majority of rapes are committed by someone who is close to the victim, such as a boyfriend or spouse. A boyfriend can rape you just as easily in the country- as a matter of fact, it would probably be a lot easier.

Yeah, but I live in the suburbs (in the woods...) and I've lived in my town for like 10 years and haven't heard of any rape case in the town.

Yeah, and I live in a city of 135,000 and I havn't heard of a rape incident in 10 years.

You would think if you're out in the boonies it would be more likely to happen because you know there's not a whole lot of people around therefore a rape could be committed and no one would know.

Besides I don't think it's the children's fault that they're becoming more violent. It's up to their parents to teach them that it's wrong and that you should solve your problems with words instead of fists. What's wrong is parents not being a good parent. I mean it's common sense that you don't let your 7-year-old watch a rated R movie or a rated M video game. But the sad truth is people do let their children watch and play these kinds of games and movies. I mean I'm not saying that it's the media's fault the games and the movies are just fine it's just that it's not appropriate for small children to be exposed to violence at such a young age.

Bottom line... parents are responsible and if their child is violent it's their fault. Unless the child has a disease then the fault is on the disease.

AMEN!

If they can´t take care of them why the heck do they becomed parents?
Being parent is a 24/7 job, not one where you can say "Oho, I´ts 6 PM from now on I´m free again, lets go to the bar" and let the TV be the nanny

Every decition you make have a responsability, and a kid is the most important of all

I am from a rural area. I dont think it matters where you live it can happen.
I blame parents for alot of the ways their kids act. To stand and hear a kids curse at its mother or father blows my mind. I was in walmarts the other day and I heard a mother tell her child to quite doing something and the child replied no I dont have to and even threaten to hit her mother. I was about floored over it. I have two boys that have never talk to me that way and they are 13 and 16. They sometimes get mouthy and I have to correct them really fast but to show that much disrespect is unblieveable.

I had watched my friend's little girl because of her not being able to get a babysitter so I volunteered :headshake:I went and picked her up from her husband who was getting ready to go to work, she is almost 5 years old. I had to run into the store really quick so we went in the store. I had made a big mistake she wanted everything and I wouldnt let her get it she started throwing a big fit on me. She had some candy canes that I was going to let her get by the time we got up to the counter to checkout I made her put them back for the way she acted in the store and I happen to run in to one of the people that my friend and I both go to church with He said she isnt made to mind that is why she acts that way. He said sissy you are doing right by making her put that back with the way she is acting. I had to go and pick her medicine up for her mother at the pharmacy she was still crying there and they knew the little girl and her mother very well. They had ask why was she crying I said she is upset over not minding me and I made her put her candy cane back. The woman said she isn't made to mind is why she acts that way. This is a child that everyone knows and they made comments like that but I blame the mother for it. I had runned in to different people that day that knows the child, her mother, and me and they all made the same comment that she isnt made to mind. She is allowed to do what she wants and when I wouldnt allow her to do what she wanted and told her no she didnt know how to act with it. That is an experience I dont want to repeat

i'm not saying everyone does it, but crimes are increasing. i do blame the younger age they are happening at on the parents. i was in the store getting stuff for christmas dinner a while back and a woman's children were acting up. she yelled at them to shut up, i mean really screamed it and threating to beat them. i thought, well maybe that's why you're children are acting like that becuase you're not a very good parent.

some people should be sterilized

or at least make a program of teaching parents how to be ones.

I mean, the Tv and the long time on internet certanly are iguilty of the behavior of kids today, but the Tv and the Pc doesnt just appear on their houses and power on by itself.
Certanly beating or hitting a kid is not the awnser, maybe a responsable parent who watch out for his/her kid, who are his/her friends and put some limits on their house since littles could be one

While it is true crime has gone up, it's not actually as bad as the media makes out.

Everyone says we should go back to 'Victorian Values', but this was a time of terrible crime, squaler, abuse and - for want of a better world - slavery. The only difference is, the media often didn't report any such actions.

The same is true to a lesser extent in pre and post WWII era. There was more shame associated with crime especially sex crimes, that often it would go unreported, and backstreet abortions were surprisingly common. The news liked to make people think everywhere was a 50's sit-com like environment, and often even crimes reported to the police would generate little coverage.

Recently, the feeling of shame has all but vanished, which results in more crime being reported. We also have a stronger news media, which has discovered fear and sensation sells, which also explains more coverage. Compare how Clinton's affair with Lewinski was reported, while JFK's many affairs weren't even discussed by the media. It's just because attitudes have changed. (Or compare Edward and Mrs Simpson to Prince Charles and Camilla if you want a UK perspective on how things have changed)

While drugs are a big problem these days, the associated gangs and killings are not that different to the prohibition era - its just that everyone has a 'romantisiced' idea of that time in histroy.

So while I agree we do seem to be living in a more violent society, I don't think the shift is as great as some people think.

2099net wrote:So while I agree we do seem to be living in a more violent society, I don't think the shift is as great as some people think.

Well, we aren't throwing Christians to the lions anymore for entertainment!

The news, in order for it to be a viable ENTERTAINMENT format, has to present all the violent stories. If you believed our news, Sydney had erupted into races riots a few months ago. In reality, there were a few isolated pockets of gangs that WERE causing some violence in their areas. However, if this is the lead news story - or something similar - every night of the week, we are going to believe 'things are worse all over'.

Yes, it is terrible we live in a world where children commit violent crimes, but it isn't exactly an epidemic. There aren't legions of 13 year olds raping people randomly. There is a quote from Bill Hicks from about 15 years ago I'd like to pull out at times like this:

"You watch the news these days? It's unbelievable. You think you just walk out your door, you're immediately gonna be raped by some crack-addicted, AIDS-infected pitbull."

This is all part of the 'culture of fear' that our mass media creates. Barry Glassner wrote about this phenomenon in his 2000 book of the same name. In it he discusses that crime rates have generally dropped over recent years, especially youth crimes rates, yet REPORTING of those crimes has gone UP.

Western society seems intent on highlighting its own demons in the news, when there are countries where MASS crimes are being committed. Put your hand up if you have even heard of the 2004 massacre in Darfur, Sudan, where Arab militias have killed at least 70,000 black Africans?

So yeah - it isn't a perfect world, but we are certainly better off than "less civilised" past societies. If we all stopped looking to the news for our culture of fear, we'd realise there is a whole world out there of problems to solve that we can only do as a non-paranoid society.