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<center><b><u>DISNEY ANIMATED TV DVDs

GOOF TROOP Volume One
DVD FACT SHEET</b></u></center>

<b><u>Studio</b></u>:
Buena Vista Home Entertainment

<b><u>Story</b></u>:
Join Goofy, Max, P.J., Pete and more for laughs and fun. Here are classic animated episodes from Disney’s
“Goof Troop” TV series, finally on DVD. Goofy is as hilarious as ever, and he’s joined by his son Max in
adventures that are always fun and exciting.

<b><u>Cast</b></u>:
Bill Farmer, Dana Hill, Rob Paulsen, Jim Cummings, April Winchell, Nancy Cartwright, Frank Welker.

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Buy <b>Goof Troop: Volume 1</b> on DVD from Amazon.com</a>

<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/gooftroop ... html">Read our <b>Goof Troop: Volume 1</b> DVD Review</a>

<b><u>STREET DATE: February 14, 2006</b></u>
<u>Direct prebook</u>: December 27, 2005
<u>Distributor prebook</u>: January 10, 2006
<u>Suggested retail price:</u> $14.99
<u>Rated: </u> TV-Y
<u>Total episode run time:</u> Approximately 66 minutes
<u>DVD aspect ratio:</u> 1.33:1 formatted 4x3
<u>DVD Sound:</u> Dolby® Digital 2.0 Stereo Sound
<u>DVD Language:</u> English audio, French audio

<center><b><u>QUACK PACK Volume One
DVD FACT SHEET</b></u></center>

<b><u>Studio</b></u>:
Buena Vista Home Entertainment

<b><u>Story</b></u>:
In this classic animated series, Donald is up to his neck in laughs – since he’s got his nephews Huey, Dewey
and Louie staying with him! It’s a house full of comedy as Donald and his now-teenage nephews get in and
out of all kinds of hysterical trouble.

<b><u>Cast</b></u>:
Tony Anselmo, Kath Soucie, Jeannie Elias, Pamela Segall, Elizabeth Daily.

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Buy <b>Quack Pack: Volume 1</b> on DVD from Amazon.com</a>

<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/quackpack ... html">Read our <b>Quack Pack: Volume 1</b> DVD Review</a>


<b><u>STREET DATE: February 14, 2006</b></u>
<u>Direct prebook</u>: December 27, 2005
<u>Distributor prebook</u>: January 10, 2006
<u>Suggested retail price:</u> $14.99
<u>Rated: </u> TV-Y
<u>Total episode run time:</u> Approximately 66 minutes
<u>DVD aspect ratio:</u> 1.33:1 formatted 4x3
<u>DVD Sound:</u> Dolby® Digital 2.0 Stereo Sound
<u>DVD Language:</u> English audio, French audio

<center><u>Preorder February TV Cartoon Compilations from Amazon.com</u><BR>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... vemz"><img src="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/g-i/gtv1.jpg" width="98" height="140" border="0" alt="Goof Troop: Volume 1"></a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... vemz"><img src="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/q-s/qpv1.jpg" width="97" height="140" border="0" alt="Quack Pack: Volume 1 "></a>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... z"><b>Goof Troop</b> Vol. 1</a> • <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... "><b>Quack Pack</b> Vol. 1</a>
<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/gooftroop ... >Review</a> • <a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/quackpack ... a></center>

Yay!!! Goof Troop and Quack Pack on DVD but it reminds me of VHS version only 3 episodes per VHS....
Why can't Disney get the logos right and have at least 27 episodes!!!

Disney has once again been a dissapointment.

Well, if it works for Warners...

WB seemed to release 3 episode discs of their popular series, all of which apparently sold quite well and gathered a demand for series sets. Eventually we got Batman: TAS Volumes 1 through 4 and the Superman: TAS sets. They were something worth waiting for!

Now we have announcements for The Batman and Teen Titans season sets to be released next year.

Disney may simply be following the current trend in animated TV releases. Although, given how old these shows are, I would have thought it wiser to do season sets.

MickeyMousePal wrote:it reminds me of VHS version only 3 episodes per VHS....

You've hit the nail on the head again, Pals.

Disney seem to be in the habit of releasing their video compilations straight to DVD at the moment. I suppose it is cheaper and more efficient than having to go back and source the original episodes for full season sets. Even so, no doubt these will sell.

There's no way I'm buying these. Quack Pack was borderline to begin with, but I would've definately bought Goof Troop had it been a proper release. I just hope these aren't indicative of future Disney TV on DVD releases, and that future releases are more like Ducktales and Chip 'N Dale.

Even so, no doubt these will sell.

To fools, maybe. Not counting sales these are going for about half the price of Ducktales or Chip 'N Dale, yet only contain 1/9 the number of episodes. I'll wait for season sets; and if none are forthcoming, I'll do without the shows. Going this route, it would take 12 volumes to do all of Quack Pack, and over 25 for Goof Troop.

It's the typical rock and hard place that drives me nuts with animation and tv shows.

I fee like if I don't buy it, then they turn around and say "See there was no market for it".

If I buy it, then I am a sucker and I get an inferior product only to watch them release season sets down the line.

Disney just doesn't seem willing to take advantage of their TV lineups like other studios.

Warner Bros. has done an awesome job with Batman and Superman and is now gearing up for Teen Titans, Justice League, The Batman, Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain. Batman Beyond and Tiny Toons are probably the next big announcements and people are respecting them for it.

Hanna Barbera has done (in my opinion) a good job with Flintstone, Scooby, and their other properties and are still explanding.

Disney is a lot like an 800 pound Gorilla in the sense that it take forever for anything to move.

TM2-Megatron wrote:

Loomis wrote:Even so, no doubt these will sell.

To fools, maybe.

Or to, you know, people who really like the shows and can't wait to have them on DVD.

I think people forget that the boxset buying, "I want full season sets" market is a very small one, and probably limited to internet and hardcore fans.

You and I may have been willing to spend $100 on a complete 61 episode first "season" of Ducktales, but the average punter doesn't really have that kind of dedication. Admittedly, there are only 39 episodes to the first run of Quack Pack, for example, but there are 65 episodes to the first run (Sep 1992 to Dec 1992) of Goof Troop*.

These reprints of the VHS may not be ideal, but they are a start. Apart from actually getting episodes of our favourite shows on DVD, they may serve as a 'test run' for a larger collection. As I said above, Warner's Batman episodes were released in about 4 or 5 volumes before we got the box sets, and now they have seen that the market wants those. Disney is relatively new to the TV on DVD market - give them time to test the market.

Let's face it - Goof Troop and Quack Pack aren't exactly the most memorable shows, even if they do have their fanbases (for the record, I love Goof Troop but I'll freely admit to liking it less than Ducktales, for example). Disney have shown they can get it almost right with Rescue Rangers and Ducktales, and I have little doubt that they will do the same with Tailspin and Gummi Bears. However, not every cult show can get a full-blown box set release - I just don't think there are enough people out there to support it.


*I've taken my numbers from TV.com, but they seem consistent with what other sources have said. Suffice it to say, most Disney "seasons" were around 60+ episodes.

Loomis, your points are very well-taken, but I can't think of any reason that Disney couldn't have tested the waters with say, 8-episode Volume 1 discs. The price per episode would be comparable to the DuckTales/Chip 'n Dale sets, the episodes would be in complete, chronological order, and if the first disc sold enough to merit more, they could have the whole series out on the market in 8 and 5 volumes, respectively. As it is, these are only slightly better than the old VHS compilations (which I believe held only two episodes) and are bound to dissuade people looking for more than an hour's worth of episodes. In turn, low sales numbers could mean no future DVD releases. On the one hand, I think there are plenty of people who want some but not all of "Goof Troop" and "Quack Pack", but on the other, "DuckTales" and "Chip 'n Dale" approached or reached the Top 100 sellers at Amazon with no promotion, no trailer, not even an appearance on Disney's official DVD site - I must assume they're turning a substantial profit on episodes that aren't even regularly airing or making money at all.

Luke wrote:Loomis, your points are very well-taken, but I can't think of any reason that Disney couldn't have tested the waters with say, 8-episode Volume 1 discs.

Granted, this would have been a much better water-tester, but as I think has already been mentioned, these 3 volume sets are substantially similar to the VHS copies already in circulation. I think this is very much a "as little effort as possible" attempt to get the episodes into the market and garner some public interest. As you said, Ducktales had very little advertising.

Once again, I point to the WB method of DVD releasing. They STILL do the singles and boxes approach, even when their boxes are already out. What is good for one company might be good for another (especially given Disney's relatively untapped TV catalogue).

Loomis wrote:Or to, you know, people who really like the shows and can't wait to have them on DVD.

[sarcasm]Yeah, I really can't wait to *not" buy these and *not* be able to watch 3 whole epsodes over and over again 'til I want to kill myself.

Loomis wrote:I think people forget that the boxset buying, "I want full season sets" market is a very small one, and probably limited to internet and hardcore fans.

You and I may have been willing to spend $100 on a complete 61 episode first "season" of Ducktales, but the average punter doesn't really have that kind of dedication. Admittedly, there are only 39 episodes to the first run of Quack Pack, for example, but there are 65 episodes to the first run (Sep 1992 to Dec 1992) of Goof Troop*.

I think you're wrong, there. The number of people willing to buy season box sets of TV shows is always on the rise. Whenever I go into HMV, their best-selling titles are usually TV shows as opposed to films. Perhaps if the Quack Pack and Goof Troop DVDs cost $2 each, I'd consider picking them up. But there's no way I'm paying half of what I paid for Ducktales and Chip 'N Dale for only 3 episodes. The only people who can be excused for buying these upcoming discs are [stupid] parents who don't know any better and just want something to shut their kids up.

Loomis wrote:These reprints of the VHS may not be ideal, but they are a start. Apart from actually getting episodes of our favourite shows on DVD, they may serve as a 'test run' for a larger collection. As I said above, Warner's Batman episodes were released in about 4 or 5 volumes before we got the box sets, and now they have seen that the market wants those. Disney is relatively new to the TV on DVD market - give them time to test the market.

Except this "testing" was all done years ago, as you said, by WB and other companies. For Disney to engage is such pointless frivolities at this stage of the game is ridiculous. They shouldn't be wasting their money (and that of the poor saps who buy these) with further "tests" when they can just base most of it on the results other companies have had with similar shows. Disney held out releasing their TV shows for much longer than anyone; but still they decide to take their sweet time getting it right after most other major studios have been pumping them out for a while.

Luke wrote:but on the other, "DuckTales" and "Chip 'n Dale" approached or reached the Top 100 sellers at Amazon with no promotion, no trailer, not even an appearance on Disney's official DVD site - I must assume they're turning a substantial profit on episodes that aren't even regularly airing or making money at all.

Not only that, but they were so high when released in the run up to Xmas season, full of blockbusters and other sets. They've done remarkably well.

The info on Amazon has changed.

Street date is now February 21. Running time is now 85 minutes(4 episodes).

See tvshowsondvd.com

No, the fact sheet from Disney was in error - I checked with them before posting it and got the corrected information. TV Shows on DVD just took their listed running times and got it wrong.

That's my real beef with Disney. If this were 2000 or 2001 I could understand this approach, but the market and people's wants have already been established.

Personally what I'm seeing is a studio that gets it and is embracing its history (WB) and one that seems unsure of and almost ashamed of it (Disney).

WB has gotten positive responses from their release of Batman and Superman and have generated a lot of excitement over Animaniacs, Justice LEague and Batman Beyond.

Fans are generally excited, whereas Disney fans tend to feel a little bit cheated. The shows came out looking less sharp than expected, the releases seem to be half efforts and i think overall it paints a far different picture amongst the fan base.

TM2-Megatron wrote:

Loomis wrote:Or to, you know, people who really like the shows and can't wait to have them on DVD.

[sarcasm]Yeah, I really can't wait to *not" buy these and *not* be able to watch 3 whole epsodes over and over again 'til I want to kill myself.

Hey, if there are - as you suggest - enough people to justify any release of Quack Pack, they are sure to enjoy ANY release.

TM2-Megatron wrote:I think you're wrong, there. The number of people willing to buy season box sets of TV shows is always on the rise. Whenever I go into HMV, their best-selling titles are usually TV shows as opposed to films. Perhaps if the Quack Pack and Goof Troop DVDs cost $2 each, I'd consider picking them up. But there's no way I'm paying half of what I paid for Ducktales and Chip 'N Dale for only 3 episodes. The only people who can be excused for buying these upcoming discs are [stupid] parents who don't know any better and just want something to shut their kids up.

I think you've hit the nail on the head with the last bit. That is EXACTLY who these compilations are aimed at - "parents who don't know any better and just want something to shut their kids up". Lest we forget Disney has a large childhood fanbase and family target market, and not everybody is as informed and obsessive as we fans are. Is there something wrong with putting out a release specifically tailored for that market? I know it is not the ideal solution for us fans, but we've already had two classic box sets this year for our collections. Give the babies their bottles.

As for the willingness to buy TV shows, there is an increased popularity. However, we are generally talking about big shows or popular shows from previous decades. Magnum P.I. or Miami Vice have found new fans on DVD (including me), but can you honestly say they will be banging HMV's doors down to get their hands on Quack Pack? Let alone the price that would be charged for a 60+ episode set of said toons?

I think it is unfair to compare the relative success of other shows, including the more high profile Ducktales and Rescue Rangers which had their own fanbase plugging the sets hard, with more obscure shows like this.

Disney held out releasing their TV shows for much longer than anyone; but still they decide to take their sweet time getting it right after most other major studios have been pumping them out for a while.

Disney has always been cautious in the market. They were one of the last to release their classics to various formats - including VHS - and always fear that they will run out of back catalogue to release. Even if TV on DVD is on the rise, it is STILL a niche market within a niche market - a decade old TV cartoon boxset is a hard thing to sell to a mass audience.

Well aren't they coming out a week later now... maybe you said it already and i just skimmed it oh well

Oh joy there is no order of the shows .

Big deal Goof Troop and Quack Pack only have 6 episodes. Why can't they have 29 episodes. Can't Disney get anything right?

OMG! What a rip off! I rather have a whole season!
I do collect the Winnie The Pooh DVD's however, I think I should stop and wait for the seasons to come out lol. I don't know, I never really was into Pooh but I like collecting the DVDs
Weird aahhh.

Let alone the price that would be charged for a 60+ episode set of said toons?

I'd rather pay that then $14 (around half the price of the previous Ducktales and Rescue Rangers sets) for a paltry 4 episodes.