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I want to get FANTASIA ANTOLOGY thoutg amazon.com
its price is $63
it says I can but it used from around $40 from independent sellers...

which option do you recommend me the most?

I've used Amazon.com twice, for B&B and Peter Pan, and it's been perfect... remember I need international shipping

are independent sellers safe???
or doy you have any electronic coupon I can use to get a discount???


any advice???

Make sure you check the feedback of sellers. I don't think there's bootlegs of something like this, but still problems can arise with sellers. I've personally never had a problem with Amazon marketplace, and I doubt you will, either.

I know this set is currently oop, but is this really so difficult to find in retail? Metro Video (a local montreal media centre for dvd/vhs, etc) has at least 25 copies in stock and they're selling for approx. $65 CAN + tax which is well under $60 US...

If anyone's interested, I'd be happy to pick up an extra copy for someone. I'm planning on purchasing one for myself later this week.

Please go to www.walmart.com and order it from there! The Price is $48.99 plus Shipping!

That is where I bought my copy! It came in great condition so you will have no problems!

are you serious? thats an awesome price. If they ship internationlly, then thats even better for mr. topic starter!

wallmart.com doesn't ship international orders...

Wow...saw copies of this and The Ultimate Toy Box at a local Best Buy for $67.99

Just some advice: The Fantasia Anthology is not very good.

I spent $50 on this and was very disappointed. Fantasia was, as we all know, edited. Fantasia 2000 has some below-average segments and the interstitials also feel very idiotic and cheap. For the first segment, they altered the music to fit their animation! Walt Disney didn't do that, so Roy Disney shouldn't have had to.

The third disc is not as good as everyone says. The features on Fantasia are not very informative and many of the better features can be gotten on the Walt Disney Treasure set BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE WALT DISNEY STUDIO. There is much, much too much focus on Fantasia 2000 on this disc. Sometimes I feel like the Disney company actually thinks this lackluster sequel is better than the original masterpiece!

I'm gonna buy it regardless and when the platinum edition of Fantasia eventually comes out (if that happens), I'll simply replace the original Fantasia disc in the box set.

STASHONE wrote:I'm gonna buy it regardless and when the platinum edition of Fantasia eventually comes out (if that happens), I'll simply replace the original Fantasia disc in the box set.

Well, go ahead, but I discourage buying it... It really disappointed me. In fact, I would consider it the worst official classic animation DVD release of all time: that "uncut original version" label is a pure lie.

Well if it wasnt for the edits, would it still be so terrible? I mean, with that aside, are the transfers not good for both films and are the supplements really so lacking? That 3rd disc sounded pretty solid to me...

Dacp wrote:Just some advice: The Fantasia Anthology is not very good.

I spent $50 on this and was very disappointed. Fantasia was, as we all know, edited. Fantasia 2000 has some below-average segments and the interstitials also feel very idiotic and cheap. For the first segment, they altered the music to fit their animation! Walt Disney didn't do that, so Roy Disney shouldn't have had to.

The third disc is not as good as everyone says. The features on Fantasia are not very informative and many of the better features can be gotten on the Walt Disney Treasure set BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE WALT DISNEY STUDIO. There is much, much too much focus on Fantasia 2000 on this disc. Sometimes I feel like the Disney company actually thinks this lackluster sequel is better than the original masterpiece!

Uhhh... dude... along with the Toy Box and Snow White this is one of the best releases Disney has had yet. Where else are you gonna find all this great stuff? Exactly. Best DVD set I own!

STASHONE wrote:Well if it wasnt for the edits, would it still be so terrible? I mean, with that aside, are the transfers not good for both films and are the supplements really so lacking? That 3rd disc sounded pretty solid to me...

Actually Fantasia's transfer could be quite a bit better. Fantasia 2000 has an excellent transfer, too bad it is not such a good movie. The 3rd disc might look solid, but after watching it I can safely say it is not. The more important Fantasia supplements are found on the BEHIND THE SCENES Treasures set. The only worthwhile features are the two 1953 shorts on Disc 2, and maybe a few of the Fantasia supplements exclusive to the set on Disc 3*, but that certainly is not worth $50, let alone the actual retail price. If you have a burning need to get this, I recommend getting it at a discounted price.

*Since this rules out the Disneyland excerpts as they are on the BEHIND THE SCENES set, this would include: 1.) the original theatrical trailer, 2.) a featurette on a Disney employee's scrapbook, 3.) deleted Sorceror's Apprentice animation (which will be on an upcoming Treasure), 4.) deleted scenes and storyboards, 5.) developmental art.

I should mention that not only is the Pastoral Segment censored but also some of the interstisial dialogue has been redubbed!

jabroni76 wrote:Uhhh... dude... along with the Toy Box and Snow White this is one of the best releases Disney has had yet. Where else are you gonna find all this great stuff? Exactly. Best DVD set I own!

Best DVD set you own?!? When compared to the excellent TOY BOX set, this DVD set pails in comparison. A masterpiece such as Fantasia does not belong with a below-average sequel. The Toy Box set was done right: two good movies, great special features, excellent transfers. I had looked forward to the Fantasia Anthology, and paid $50 for it, and I was very disappointed. And when compared to the Toy Box, I think the Fantasia set looks even worse.

Dacp, I certainly respect your opinion even though I wholeheartedly disagree From a pure enjoyment standpoint I absolutely love these films, their animation and accompanying music.

I will admit though that the transfer on Fantasia does disappoint. I'm extremely critical of this in respect to The Rescuers but it just doesn't seem as bad with Fantasia.

To me Fantasia Anthology was much better than the Ultimate Toy Box. the 3rd disc does thru every segment at a time in fantasia/2000 with behind the scenes and galleries, they have abanadones concepts and deleted scenes, makings of, commentary, Archival Interviews, publicity, alternate endings and such. As for the Toy Box was mostly Generic Pixar Bonus Features all in one disc. and the Movies, shorts and Commentaries in their own individual discs. While Fantasia is also like that, the discs carry more features than Toy Story/Toy Story 2 discs in that set put together, In other words Toy Box is a equivalent to a 1 Disc Set spread over 3 Discs. While Fantasia is more like Collector's Box Set each disc has it's own individual materials.

A few points:

1) Quality of the Fantasia transfer - Disney actually address this with paper slip in the box.

This DVD was mastered using the most advanced technology available to ensure the best possible quality for this presentation of the original 1940 "Roadshow" version of Fantasia. During this production it was discovered that the source material, because of its age, contained artifacts that could no be removed without jepardizing the quality of the source material

Perhaps the next Platinum release will get a better transfer (as one assumes technology will have advanced by that time) but for now Disney did the best that they could - remember many of the roadshow elements hadn't been used since the original release in 1940 - so how could you expect Disney to do more?

Some of the interstisial dialogue has been redubbed because it was lost, and Disney decided to rerecord the whole voice track rather than have it constantly change throughout the feature when the newly recorded voice was used. Would you rather of had the original voice and subtitles over mute footage?

2) The Uncut Original Version - this is a tricky one. I guess legally Disney can make this claim. The "Uncut and Original" in that the claim refers to the fact that this is the original "Roadshow" version of the feature, reconstructed as closely as possible. Also the 'cuts' in the feature are not cuts as such (the runtime is the same as the original) they're techincally 're-edits'.

But yes, this claim does go against the spirit of the release. As for disappointing, yes it is. But Disney's logic (perhaps even Roy Disney's logic himself) is that if Walt asked for the changes, they'll be kept on the modern releases. The same thing happened on the Silly Symphonies Treasures set with The Three Little Pigs. Does this mean the Silly Symphonies Treasures release is "not very good" [*]

3) Fantasia 2000 Disc Supplements - How can anyone say that the only thing worth having on the Fantasia 2000 disc are the animated shorts? It has a wonderful (completely fluff-less) 50+ minute documentary on the making of the film. This is the sort of supplement that should be appearing on the new Platinum and 2 disc releases rather than the fragmented segments they include now. In my mind the set would be worth buying without the third disc, just for the excellent documentaries.

4) Repetition of Supplements - True, but not everyone has the treasures sets... and no one had them at the time of Fantasia's release. So perhaps the complaint should be made about the Disney Treasures releases rather then Fantasia. Plus, I'd rather have supplements repeat of different discs (sets even) rather then the lazy supplemental repetition on Disney's new discs like Beauty and the Beast and Treasure Planet which seems to be Disney's new trend (making it look like each disc contains more than it does).

5) Bias towards Fantasia 2000 - What are you crazy? Firstly Fantasia gets an absolutely stunning Walt Disney commentary. How many releases can claim that? It's an incredible achivement - finding all that content and running it over a whole 2 hours + movie and never letting the listerner's interest wane. The research that went into that alone must have been enormous. Secondly lets examine the third disc - each segment gets it's own great section, including an alternative treatment for Toccata and Fugue In D Minor. On top of this there are lots of treatments for additional segments for Fantasia when the original idea of updating the feature each year was still being pursued. And of course, there's all the posters and trailers. None of these were handed to the content producers on a silver plate like one assumes the Fantasia 2000 supplements were - they had to go out and research them. And have you even considered that perhaps, just perhaps, in 1940 hardly anything was filmed about the prodction of the film? Those Disneyland supplements are more than likely all that exist when looking for any vaguely appropriate 'behind the scenes' footage even though they were filmed much later.

Fantasia 2000 may have the appearence of having more content, but it's an illusion. Its simply because more of the original animators, directors and creators of Fantasia 2000 are (naturally) available for interview.

Oh, and before I finish on this point - its interesting that the only two supplements that could be classed as 'fluff' are for Fantasia 2000, not Fantasia (the Showcase Program of clips on the Fantasia 2000 disc, and the Orchestra Demonstration on the supplements disc)

6) Editing Music - Now I'm not sure about this, but I think the music was edited in the original Fantasia too. Isn't this one of the complaints leveled against in on its original release by 'art' critics at the time? If not edited, it was certainly 're-interpritated' to a major extent.

Moving on, my guess is the Platinum Fantasia (or whatever it ends up being called by the time its released) will be the same disc one as the Anthology release while the second disc will contain all of the Fantasia supplements off the anthology's supplemental disc, padded out with a few new documentaries and, I would guess, the Destino animated short.

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[*] Plus I would argue that the feature is not 'censored'. Censor really is an ugly word and is used far to often out of context. You want to know what censorship really is? Go and research into dictatorships (both past and present). Fantasia was re-edited when the filmmaker had second thoughts about his film. While I'm not a fan of revisionist filmmaking, I don't consider this censorship. Is the new Director's Cut of Star Trek: The Motion(less) Picture censored? That has a shorter running time than the original so has been re-edited and cut.

Thanks a lot 2099 -- This set will officially be added to my collection by the end of the week!

MickeyMouseboy wrote: In other words Toy Box is a equivalent to a 1 Disc Set spread over 3 Discs. While Fantasia is more like Collector's Box Set each disc has it's own individual materials.

That's a big 1 disc. DVD-27?

The Fantasia Anthology is the best SE I've ever seen with Atlantis.

You can buy it in http://www.playusa.com. It costs 34,99 pounds there.