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Neman's Laugh O Grams

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:38 am
by Mr. Toad
Could not find this by searching Does anybody know what still exists? I have been looking at web sites trying to find out and have seen opinions ranging from only one exists(impossible given inkwell issued more than one) to only one is not known to exist plus one is at the New York Museum of Art but is incorectly catalogued.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:23 pm
by ichabod
Well It's certainly a gray area however of Walt's Laugh O Grams known to exist are:

Little Red Riding Hood (1922)
The Four Musicians of Bremen (1922)
Golide Locks and the Three Bears (1922)
Puss in Boots (1922) (on the Before Walt DVD, of which I am currently selling a copy in the trade forum ;))
Cinderella (1922)
Tommy Tucker's Tooth (1922)
Clara Cleans her Teeth (1927) (not technically a LoG, but it doesn't really fit anywhere else).

Probably Lost:

Jack and the Beanstalk (1922) appears to be the only one of Disney's laugh o grams that seems to be missing, from what I can make out at least.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:47 pm
by Mr. Toad
There is also the two promotional items referred to as the Laugh-o-reel and the Song-o-reel. I know the former is on the Before Walt DVD. And I am waiting for Inkwell's expanded DVD.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:48 pm
by Anders M Olsson
Well, the Newman Laugh-O-Grams aren't really the same as the later fairy-tale themed Laugh-O-Grams.

The following are Laugh-O-Grams, but they aren't Newman Laugh-O-Grams:
Little Red Riding Hood, The Four Musicians of Bremen, Jack and the Beanstalk, Goldie Locks and the Three Bears, Puss in Boots, Cinderella.

Most of the fairy-tale themed Laugh-O-Grams have survived, but according to the book "Walt in Wonderland", the only surviving Newman Laugh-O-Gram is the "Sample Reel". That may explain some of the confusion and different opinions about what exists. Also, you must consider that new discoveries are always a possibility...

If you're interested in Walts silent cartoons, you should check this thread for an exciting download:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=10238

You'll find that it contains both Tommy Tucker's Tooth and Clara Cleans Her Teeth! Thereby we can say for sure that both films have survived. Well, sort of.... the quality is quite awful... :P

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:01 pm
by ichabod
Thanks, I was myself convinced that both Clara and Tommy has survived as there was a lot of information about both of them, yet I couldn't find any actual reports of people seeing them, so I didn't want to get people's hopes up by saying they still existed! Anyway It's good to know there is a version (if somehwhat below Disney DVD Quality ;)) of these shorts around.

Also the shorter cartoons I believe you are referring to are "The Laffetts" which I'm not sure have survived at all, as I've never looked into those like I had with the longer shorts.
The Laffets consisted of titles including "Golf in Slow Motion", "Descha's Tryst With the Moon", "The Woodland Potter", "A Star pitcher", "Aesthetic Camping", "Reuben's Big Day", "Rescued" and "A Pirate For a Day".

Also mentioned the sing a long titled "Martha: Just a Plain Old fashioned Name" I also have no idea about.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:19 pm
by Anders M Olsson
ichabod wrote:Also mentioned the sing a long titled "Martha: Just a Plain Old fashioned Name" I also have no idea about.
It's lost according to the "Walt in Wonderland" book.

(Before you get your hopes up - that book does not explain exactly what's lost and what's not. In a few cases, it clearly mentions some films that are believed to be lost. But to be honest, how can you tell for sure that a film has really been lost?)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:03 pm
by Mr. Toad
Andres is a correct. You can not prove a negative. One of those laws of life.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:17 am
by Cameron
good stuff guys...just wish i could get those toons to download