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Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:04 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Sotiris wrote: He doesn't. At the end, Elsa makes a permanent snow cloud/swirl of cold air around him so he'll always stay cool.
Aww, too bad. :(

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:38 pm
by taei
So what are the chances that these pages are not the final draft? Maybe they wrote new ones?

Also, it's a junior novel so I'm assuming not everything that happens in the movie is in the book. Could they have cut out some parts?

Also, as for hans.. Here is what I wanted the twist to be:

Hans is Elsa's powers. It somehow managed to escape from her and is angry because she is suppressing it. Why not leave her alone and go away? It can't survive without her or it can't survive without 100% of the all powers. It attaches itself to Anna because it knows that Elsa will do anything for Anna. I really wanted this to be a twist. Her powers backfiring and rioting. Plus, in the end, we can have a cool Han's true appearance. Just ice! Like an ice sculpture of either him or her.
Argh..

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:51 pm
by jazzflower92
taei wrote:So what are the chances that these pages are not the final draft? Maybe they wrote new ones?

Also, it's a junior novel so I'm assuming not everything that happens in the movie is in the book. Could they have cut out some parts?

Also, as for hans.. Here is what I wanted the twist to be:

Hans is Elsa's powers. It somehow managed to escape from her and is angry because she is suppressing it. Why not leave her alone and go away? It can't survive without her or it can't survive without 100% of the all powers. It attaches itself to Anna because it knows that Elsa will do anything for Anna. I really wanted this to be a twist. Her powers backfiring and rioting. Plus, in the end, we can have a cool Han's true appearance. Just ice! Like an ice sculpture of either him or her.
Argh..
I don't know but I think Hans' status as a villain will make him even more attractive to the fans girls. I can foresee a lot of foe yay pictures of him with either Elsa or Anna. Now that I think about I believe they set up a red herring with the Duke playing up the fact he is a jerk and making people think we will have another Radcliffe villain character. However, now we have a Disney villain who has the false appearance of being the perfect prince charming.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:49 am
by Lady Cluck
jazzflower92 wrote:I don't know but I think Hans' status as a villain will make him even more attractive to the fans girls. I can foresee a lot of foe yay pictures of him with either Elsa or Anna. Now that I think about I believe they set up a red herring with the Duke playing up the fact he is a jerk and making people think we will have another Radcliffe villain character. However, now we have a Disney villain who has the false appearance of being the perfect prince charming.
Exactly. It's actually pretty cool.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:35 am
by thedisneyspirit
I'd think Loki would constitute basically Disney's first Draco in Leather Pants. :lol:
Not to mention all the Gaston Hades Jafar etc fandoms.
He doesn't seem that much of a villain that I would like (i like my male Disney villains humorous-like Ratigan or Hook), but it's much better than the double romance hinted early on. And people wanted that crap. :roll:
In a way I am glad that they aren't forgetting the sisters angle and putting the romance forward instead- they're acting much like Brave did, which is a good thing.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:04 am
by Warm Regards
Just a heads up: the Google Books link has been pulled down. It has appeared to be replaced by a link with no preview pages.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:14 am
by estefan
There are so many black bars on these pages lately, it almost looks like a censored government documentary or a David Cameron-administered porn website. :lol:

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:13 am
by disneyprincess11
NEW INFO ABOUT THE DUKE.

MAJOR SPOILERS:

http://media.tumblr.com/dd5b1f08b727400 ... qz4rgp.png
http://media.tumblr.com/88d64cacab6f2d8 ... qz4rgp.png

From what I can tell:

Ok, so the Duke is not THAT evil, I’m taking. Yes, he wants the economic things. But, he does partially care about Anna. Like Hans is like, “Wahhhhh, Elsa killed my bride!” The Duke is like, "OMG, NO!"

And he does want the winter to end. I don’t know if it’s because of his selfish reasons or if it’s for the good of the kingdom.

I should have kept these as surprises, but I wanted to know more about the Duke. But, I’m SUPER excited about Hans now. He is an AMAZING AMAZING villain so far. I'm glad he's evil. :D

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:31 am
by Candy-Bonita95
Omg!!! That doesn't make sense. Now Hans has a stupid motivation.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:33 am
by jazzflower92
Candy-Bonita95 wrote:Omg!!! That doesn't make sense. Now Hans has a stupid motivation.
Actually that motivation makes a lot of sense since if he acted like he married Anna then that means he has legitimate claim to the throne.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:56 am
by disneyprincess11
Candy-Bonita95 wrote:Omg!!! That doesn't make sense. Now Hans has a stupid motivation.
Well, we don't know that for sure. We'll find out when the movie comes. And I don't think it's stupid. I like that he wants power.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:14 am
by Elladorine
estefan wrote:There are so many black bars on these pages lately, it almost looks like a censored government documentary or a David Cameron-administered porn website. :lol:
My thoughts exactly. rotfl

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:47 am
by Sotiris
Warm Regards wrote:Just a heads up: the Google Books link has been pulled down.
That's reasonable. It's quite surprising they would let such a big thing slip up when they were so strict about leaks so far. Although it's not as tragic as everyone makes it. The book will be released on October 1st anyway. So the plot is leaked a month earlier than that. It doesn't make such a big difference.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:44 pm
by Super Aurora
Yep, Hans definitely the Aizen of this movie. Has the "JUST AS PLANNED." tactic.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:36 pm
by jazzflower92
Remember there was a prince and princess from the story. Well, maybe Anna is a combination of the princess and Gerda roles. While Hans will be a villainous version of the prince from the original story.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:53 pm
by unprincess
taei wrote:
Also, as for hans.. Here is what I wanted the twist to be:

Hans is Elsa's powers. It somehow managed to escape from her and is angry because she is suppressing it. Why not leave her alone and go away? It can't survive without her or it can't survive without 100% of the all powers. It attaches itself to Anna because it knows that Elsa will do anything for Anna. I really wanted this to be a twist. Her powers backfiring and rioting. Plus, in the end, we can have a cool Han's true appearance. Just ice! Like an ice sculpture of either him or her.
Argh..

I like it, but it would be too high concept & weird for Disney... maybe if they were a Japanese or European studio. :wink:


I think its interesting that Disney has been trying to keep the Hans reveal a secret so far. I wonder if it will be spoiled in the offical trailer. Im also curious as to whether Hans was always intended to be a villain or did he start out as a heroic character & love interest for either of the sisters. Im hoping the art book provides some details.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:58 pm
by jazzflower92
unprincess wrote:
taei wrote:
Also, as for hans.. Here is what I wanted the twist to be:

Hans is Elsa's powers. It somehow managed to escape from her and is angry because she is suppressing it. Why not leave her alone and go away? It can't survive without her or it can't survive without 100% of the all powers. It attaches itself to Anna because it knows that Elsa will do anything for Anna. I really wanted this to be a twist. Her powers backfiring and rioting. Plus, in the end, we can have a cool Han's true appearance. Just ice! Like an ice sculpture of either him or her.
Argh..

I like it, but it would be too high concept & weird for Disney... maybe if they were a Japanese or European studio. :wink:


I think its interesting that Disney has been trying to keep the Hans reveal a secret so far. I wonder if it will be spoiled in the offical trailer. Im also curious as to whether Hans was always intended to be a villain or did he start out as a heroic character & love interest for either of the sisters. Im hoping the art book provides some details.
Since its official that Queen Elsa remains single at the end of the movie I wonder which other single male animated characters shippers will hook her up with. There already a lot of Elsa and Jack Frost shippers on the internet. However, I have a feeling some will pair her up with Jim Hawkins the most wanted resident Disney bachelor :D

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:21 pm
by unprincess
Jim Hawkins would look like a baby next to Elsa rotfl

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:24 pm
by Candy-Bonita95
Oops,I misread the tumblr pages.Hans does have a motivation that would be well explained in the movie.

Btw taei, that idea about Hans seems beautiful.So sexy.

Yeah, have another theory about Hans. What Elsa decides to have Hans memories about his "plan" removed by the trolls. He goes back home remembering only Elsa the Snow Queen and decides to write a story about it. ,yet could it be possible that Hans was never a prince at all?

Out the two theories, I think Hans faking his title is more possible.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:27 pm
by jazzflower92
unprincess wrote:Jim Hawkins would look like a baby next to Elsa rotfl
I think better him than the flood storm of fan fictions pairing Elsa with Hans even when its revealed he is a villain.