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I guess it all depends on the quality of this film. If the Russian Snow Queen is good and gets a lot of attention in the states, then I suspect Disney would cancel their version (just as Pixar cancelled Newt for being to similar to Rio). If it sucks and goes completely under the radar (as many foreign films tend to do), then I think Disney will follow through with current plans.

Sotiris wrote:

enigmawing wrote:Why has this thread become all about the Russian version anyway?

Because Polizzi keeps posting stuff about it.

Hahahah... Sotiris. You're awesome.

Sotiris wrote:

enigmawing wrote:Why has this thread become all about the Russian version anyway?

Because Polizzi keeps posting stuff about it.

Well, tell Polizzi to stop showing us that, because I want Disney to do Frozen.

DreamWorks Animation did their version of, "Puss in Boots," after a foreign country did theirs, which means Disney is STILL doing their version of, "The Snow Queen (Frozen)," as planned. There's nothing to fear. In fact, DreamWorks Animation does a better job on their version than the foreign nation's, which means Disney would perhaps twice a better job than Wizart's.

Since that you are all disgusted about the posts that I have discovered which involves the same topic but from a different studio that is going to release theirs before Disney's, I'll make a deal with you all. I'll collect articles of Wizart's, "The Snow Queen," that MENTIONS Disney's, "The Snow Queen ( Frozen)." For example, "Once Upon a Blog," has mentioned Disney's version while discussing Wizart's version. However, through the writer's perspective, he or she assumes that Disney would do a better job in animation on their version since Wizart's DID NOT get on par with Disney's style of animation.

And excuse me for posting articles that involve the same topic but from a different studio that will be released this year before Disney's version comes out next year, but if it were not for that animation reel of Wizart's version posted onto this thread, I WOULD NOT be collecting articles that talk about it, if it or if it not mentions Disney's version.

Sorry about how things did not go as expected, but if Disney did it sooner, and either forget or proceed with, "The Princess and the Frog (for example by the way)," they would have their version released before Wizart's. But Disney had to put it on hold, because they released, "The Princess and the Frog," before, "The Snow Queen (Frozen)." And since it did not do well at the box office, they've put their version on hold while working on, "Rapunzel (Tangled)." If Disney DID NOT put their version on hold, then they would still prevail before Wizart's, since Disney started their version in 2003.

But sorry to say this, to my perspective since both Wizart and Disney are doing their own versions, you might find articles that talk about both at the same time...maybe. True that Disney would stick to their own articles than share it with Wizart's, but there could be other articles, even on the media, that would compare Disney's to Wizart's. But there is nothing to fear about that either. The best part is that you do not see Wizart's version on Rotten Tomatoes, Yahoo! movies, Box Office Mojo, Entertainment Weekley, Variety, and many more, not even, "Puss in Boots," before DreamWorks' version of it.

So don't give up hope. As the old saying goes, "The show must go on." Disney will still do their version no matter what. Take me for example, I've created my version of, "Rapunzel," while Disney does theirs. Of course my version could use some more work in the details. If fact, I even came up with my version of, "The Snow Queen," called, "Snow and Fire (The Snow Queen and the Fire King)," which puts the Snow Queen as the new protagonist and the Fire King as the new antagonist (kind of a twist, isn't it). Kind of weird, I know. But with my details to support the story, it will all make sense (maybe not for you). So anyways, do not give up hope.

P.S. I bet DreamWorks Animation's, "Puss in Boots," made more money than the foreign nation's version, which means Disney's version of, "The Snow Queen (Frozen)," would make more money than Wizart's. By the way, I've read that Wizart's version lasts for 1 hr. and 20 min. I bet Disney can make their version last longer than Wizart's. Maybe about 1 hr. and 40 to 50 min. (20 to 30 more minutes than Wizart's), the same limit as, "Rapunzel (Tangled)." I wonder if DreamWorks' version lasts longer than the foreign nation's. I haven't even got a chance to watch it, and I saw it available at Red Box. But anyway, I'm sure Disney would do a better job than Wizart's. Remember, do not give up hope.

jpanimation wrote:I guess it all depends on the quality of this film. If the Russian Snow Queen is good and gets a lot of attention in the states, then I suspect Disney would cancel their version (just as Pixar cancelled Newt for being to similar to Rio). If it sucks and goes completely under the radar (as many foreign films tend to do), then I think Disney will follow through with current plans.

I would go for Wizart's failure, and Disney's success...hopefully.

Polizzi wrote:DreamWorks Animation did their version of, "Puss in Boots," after a foreign country did theirs, which means Disney is STILL doing their version of, "The Snow Queen (Frozen)," as planned.

Wait...what? Am I missing something? That just doesn't seem like the kind of evidence that would lead you to that conclusion. Dreamworks has never been shy about making movies dealing with a similar subject matter to others (*cough*Shark Tale*cough*Antz*cough*) and that particular movie was part of an established franchise. As I stated before, Disney cancelled Pixar's Newt because they felt it was too similar to Rio. It all depends on the success of this Russian movie. If it sucks and can't even get a US distributor, then Disney won't worry about it but if it's good and gets a lot of attention, then Disney will have to reassess the situation.

At this point, we have nothing to discuss, since we don't know anything about this Russian movie (outside the fact that it looks bad) and we don't even know how far in development or what plans Disney has for Frozen.

A thousand apologies for sending too many posts, but just to let you know that the foreign nation's version of, "Puss in Boots," is called, "The True Story of Puss in Boots," after I did research on Red Box. I understand that this does not involve this thread, but I was trying to compare between this version and DreamWorks' version as an example for Disney's and Wizart's version of, "The Snow Queen." By the way, at the bottom of the description about, "The True Story of Puss in Boots," on the Red Box site, it says, "Please note: This is NOT the same version as the Antonio Bandaras film coming to theaters in November." Once Wizart's version gets released to Red Box...maybe, the description at the bottom will say, "Please note: This version is NOT the same version as the Disney film coming to theaters in November." By the way, "The True Story of Puss in Boots," was NOT fully recognized, which means it would do the same on Wizart's, "The Snow Queen."

According to Google research, it is Frace which produced their version before DreamWorks' version.

SWillie! wrote:Hahahah... Sotiris. You're awesome.

Thanks!

jpanimation wrote:I guess it all depends on the quality of this film. If the Russian Snow Queen is good and gets a lot of attention in the states, then I suspect Disney would cancel their version (just as Pixar cancelled Newt for being to similar to Rio). If it sucks and goes completely under the radar (as many foreign films tend to do), then I think Disney will follow through with current plans.

It really doesn't have to do with quality; it has to do with distribution. Even great foreign animated films rarely see the light of day in the U.S. (only very few get a limited theatrical release around award season). This Russian version will probably only get released in some parts of Europe at best. I don't think there's an issue here.


@Polizzi: I've created a thread about Wizart's Snow Queen so you can post all the info you want about it there.

Okay.

Sotiris wrote:@Polizzi: I've created a thread about Wizart's Snow Queen so you can post all the info you want about it there.

Thank god.

March 01, 2012

Steve Hulett wrote:I visited the Disney hat building this afternoon. The droll Wreck It Ralph display is now fully operational on the first floor, work is humming along on a variety of projects on various other floors. Some new directors on stalled projects, some new projects, and Frozen still follows Ralph.

Anonymous wrote:Do you know if Frozen will have the original painterly look it was supposed to have Rapunzel in the original Glen Keane's version for the story?

Steve Hulett wrote:Actually no. I've talked to Frozen's art director at length, but not about what the picture will ultimately look like.

I saw designs some time ago, and they look great. I don't know if I would call them "painterly."

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... irman.html


March 05, 2012

Todd Gilchrist wrote:Kristen Bell is set to provide the speaking and singing voice as the lead in Disney's upcoming animated feature Frozen. Directed by Chris Buck, the film is being produced by John Lasseter and Peter Del Vecho.

Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/k ... ute-296847

Kristen Bell will be the speaking and singing voice for the lead in "Frozen."

So, this confirms that it will be a musical and the article also says it's computer-animated and directed by Chris Buck. I like Bell a lot, so I support this casting decision.

I just Youtubed her singing, and turns out she was a musical theater major at NYU and has been on Broadway. I approve.

estefan wrote:Kristen Bell will be the speaking and singing voice for the lead in "Frozen."

So, this confirms that it will be a musical and the article also says it's computer-animated and directed by Chris Buck. I like Bell a lot, so I support this casting decision.

I knew it! It is going to be a musical! Now I accept that Frozen will be CGI. I hope Alan Menken is involved with this.

Just a hypothetical question: We all know that Disney hasn't been happy with the box office numbers for any of their non-Pixar animated films since probably Lilo & Stitch, right? That in the past decade, only Lilo & Stitch and Tangled have made them happy at the box office, right? (I won't even go into my rant of "but more money is made outside of the box office numbers!") So, (and I'm hoping that it does do well) what if Wreck-It Ralph doesn't do the kinds of numbers that Disney ideally would want to make from a WDFA film? And what if Frozen does Tangled numbers?

We already can make assumptions about Frozen following in Tangled's footsteps, in terms of being a CGI musical with a one-word title based on a classic fairy tale that probably will have a twist, right?

What if that's the only formula that they're happy with? Surely they would eventually have a Lilo & Stitch, a unique film that just resonates with the public. Would Disney keep on making one-word titled twists on fairy tales in CGI that are musicals? Until that Lilo & Stitch comes along, of course...

TsWade2 wrote:

estefan wrote:Kristen Bell will be the speaking and singing voice for the lead in "Frozen."

So, this confirms that it will be a musical and the article also says it's computer-animated and directed by Chris Buck. I like Bell a lot, so I support this casting decision.

I knew it! It is going to be a musical! Now I accept that Frozen will be CGI. I hope Alan Menken is involved with this.

Nice Really glad Frozen is a musical. I have heard of Kristen Bell, but I forget what movies she is in. Time to look her up.

oh, and i found this on tumblr under disney's frozen:

Great, it is going to be a musical, now let's keep our fingers crossed that Aland Menken and someone other than Glen Slater are still involved in the project.

It's kinda cool that Disney is getting actors that kind both voice and sing their parts. So, the safe bet is that Kristen Bell is voicing Gerda, right?

Dream Huntress wrote:Great, it is going to be a musical, now let's keep our fingers crossed that Aland Menken and someone other than Glen Slater are still involved in the project.

Hey, give Glenn Slater a chance! I think he did great for Tangled.