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Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:27 pm**

DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.

Does Belle have a scene where she hums?

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:41 pm**

Lavendergolden wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:27 pm
DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.
Does Belle have a scene where she hums?

As far as I'm concerned, no.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:34 am**

DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.

Is it the preview Italian scan that has a few shots missing and the 4th reel has stabilization issues?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:54 am**

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:34 am
DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.
Is it the preview Italian scan that has a few shots missing and the 4th reel has stabilization issues?

Well… yeah.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:35 am**

DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.

That's cool! Did you see it in the theater?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:15 am**

Vlad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:35 am
DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 pm So I've watched an upscaled-to-4K 35mm print of Beauty and the Beast and, despite the dirt and smudges, it somehow looks infinitely better than most home video releases of the film!

It even looks better than the original VHS release, namely the Beast's scenes before his reveal in the light.
That's cool! Did you see it in the theater?

… no, I downloaded it.

I did see it in theaters back in 2023, though. And that looked pretty great.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:40 pm**

I saw the same copy. I'm torn, because yes, these are the colors I remember, although I have to admit, it may be a bit too dark, even for me. I think something that splits the difference could be amazing though.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:47 pm**

DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:15 am
Vlad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:35 am

That's cool! Did you see it in the theater?
… no, I downloaded it.

I did see it in theaters back in 2023, though. And that looked pretty great.

Oh, where did you find it? Can you tell me too? I'd love to see it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:11 pm**

Kyle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:40 pm I saw the same copy. I'm torn, because yes, these are the colors I remember, although I have to admit, it may be a bit too dark, even for me. I think something that splits the difference could be amazing though.

It's important to note that this isn't a restoration, not even an amateur one like other films. It's just a rough scan. It was planned to have the same treatment but they couldn't fix the stabilization issues so the project was dropped. I heard that there was another print but that was a long time ago and I have no idea what's the status currently.

So no, this isn't ideal. It needed to go through some sort of clean up and color correction, but it might be an alternative for some who really don't like the Blu-ray or 4K.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:26 pm**

I mean, not to say I hate the Blu-ray or the 4K. I think the latter is an improvement over the former.

Also, Vlad, if you’d like, I can DM you where I found it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm**

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:11 pm
Kyle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:40 pm I saw the same copy. I'm torn, because yes, these are the colors I remember, although I have to admit, it may be a bit too dark, even for me. I think something that splits the difference could be amazing though.
It's important to note that this isn't a restoration, not even an amateur one like other films. It's just a rough scan. It was planned to have the same treatment but they couldn't fix the stabilization issues so the project was dropped. I heard that there was another print but that was a long time ago and I have no idea what's the status currently.

So no, this isn't ideal. It needed to go through some sort of clean up and color correction, but it might be an alternative for some who really don't like the Blu-ray or 4K.

Thats surprising, I would think stabilizing wouldn't be too hard, although you'd have to crop in a bit for sure. And yea, I can tell this isn't any kind of restoration.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:49 am**

DisneyJedi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:26 pm I mean, not to say I hate the Blu-ray or the 4K. I think the latter is an improvement over the former.

Also, Vlad, if you’d like, I can DM you where I found it.

Farerb sent me a link (thank you, by the way

), but it doesn't have Beauty and the Beast, only Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin and Mulan. If you can, send it to me.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:30 am**

Vlad wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:49 am Farerb sent me a link (thank you, by the way ), but it doesn't have Beauty and the Beast, only Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin and Mulan. If you can, send it to me.

I sent you two links. One of them has Beauty and the Beast.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:37 am**

Farerb wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:30 am
Vlad wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:49 am Farerb sent me a link (thank you, by the way ), but it doesn't have Beauty and the Beast, only Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin and Mulan. If you can, send it to me.
I sent you two links. One of them has Beauty and the Beast.

I'm sorry for asking, but it would mean the world to me if you could also share the two links by PM. Ive dreamt of seeing this movie in it's full 35mm glory and I almost can't believe that it still exists.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:39 am**

Kyle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:40 pm I saw the same copy. I'm torn, because yes, these are the colors I remember, although I have to admit, it may be a bit too dark, even for me. I think something that splits the difference could be amazing though.

This is so beautiful to look at omg

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:48 am**

Just for kicks, I tried to see if I could use my amateur color grading skill in davinci resolve to bring it closer to how I envision it should look.Its just a small bit of the ballroom scene. Its still not perfect though. I did try to stabilize it, but I didn't like how much crop was going to be needed, so I left it off. I chopped out some bits because I'm not trying to get a copyright strike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CkjGV7hFFw

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:03 am**

Farerb wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:30 am
Vlad wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:49 am Farerb sent me a link (thank you, by the way ), but it doesn't have Beauty and the Beast, only Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin and Mulan. If you can, send it to me.
I sent you two links. One of them has Beauty and the Beast.

I'm so sorry, Farerb, I didn't see the second link. I must have sounded like an ungrateful prick. Thank you very much

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:35 am**

Vlad wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:03 am
I'm so sorry, Farerb, I didn't see the second link. I must have sounded like an ungrateful prick. Thank you very much

You're welcome, and don't worry, you didn't sound like a prick

Posted: **Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:09 am**

Thanks, farerb

I got a new external hard drive; I downloaded all the files from the links you sent me, and I put them on it. I managed to watch a few scenes, and boy, are they beautiful. As many said, even with the darker colors, they look so much better than the official home video releases.

Posted: **Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:41 am**

Hey everyone!

Long time no see...

Damn, those segments of the 35mm print of BATB look almost 3D at times, with the added contrast.

And Kyle, you did a great job adjusting the colors. Not every shot is perfect, but it really brought back memories. And dammit, Belle's hair is BROWN again.

Fareb... sending you a PM hehe

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