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Why is the Wish novel releasing in October 10th, wouldn't that spoil the movie?

reee9948 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:21 pm Why is the Wish novel releasing in October 10th, wouldn't that spoil the movie?

They, as in movie studios, Disney particular, always seem to do this, releasing novels, picture book etc. that are more than basically the entire movie in a condensed form, maybe somewhat assuming that since they are “aimed for younger kids” that it’s not as big of a deal, and that they will not know the difference, either way using it for more merchandise and to make more $.

With the Pixar movies being my favourite movies, it becomes very much annoying to have this kind of thing, without a parent mindset, as it’s actually what spoiled toy story 4 for me, on this forum, as people already knew the ending before it came out, and therefore overall spoiled it before I got a chance to see it (And no, I didn’t click on the spoiler black bars, they were mostly covered, but it’s by a simple sentence of saying “our predictions were correct”, that kind of gave it away for me

I just won’t read them.

So, somebody leaked the final version of Asha’s “I Want” song, “This Wish” and I can safely say that it’s legit guys. I’m guessing it came from Destination D23 when they screened 10 minutes of the film there. It’s a bit faster than what we heard back in D23 Expo last year and there’s some added instrumentals. Here’s the link.
https://youtu.be/blOIP_9t1Ak?si=M6U_liyRB5YFw3kf

Ouch. Very generic lyrics.

Very generic song, also I don't get why the song doesn't have any spanish/mozarabic/arabic/bantu/sephardic/ibero etc influence, like you make a movie set in that location with a mix of many cultures and the song is generic pop

Like the Jasmine pop song in the Aladdin live action, they could have copied the style of SWANA pop music instead of western generic pop

I thought that too, but I can give them a pass. Apart from "Almost There" and the intro to "Reflection", most "I want" songs are devoid of any specific musical influences. If the rest of the songs in the movie are like that though, yeah, not a good look. My main issue with "This Wish" (or whatever it's called) is just how uninspired it sounds; there's no hook, no catchy refrain, nothing. It's boring.

Thanks for posting, MoonMarc21! The person who leaked it did attend the Destination D23 presentation, so yes, that's where it must come from. I wish they leaked the other song too, but they'd probably get in trouble if they did. I'm not sure what version I prefer, but the final one doesn't sound bad. I think "This Wish" is nice, but I agree with others it's a bit weak for a Disney "I Want" song. Perhaps Disney should submit "You're a Star" for the Oscars instead since it seems to be the one that really stands out to people at screenings judging by the reactions.

As for the lack of regional music influences, I always wish they would take more inspiration from the music styles of the places where the movies are set as well, but it's true Disney "I Want" songs usually just sound generic Broadway or pop. Hopefully, other songs in the movie are more culturally accurate, like Mooky said.

D82 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:31 am Thanks for posting, MoonMarc21! The person who leaked it did attend the Destination D23 presentation, so yes, that's where it must come from. I wish they leaked the other song too, but they'd probably get in trouble if they did. I'm not sure what version I prefer, but the final one doesn't sound bad. I think "This Wish" is nice, but I agree with others it's a bit weak for a Disney "I Want" song. Perhaps Disney should submit "You're a Star" for the Oscars instead since it seems to be the one that really stands out to people at screenings judging by the reactions.

As for the lack of regional music influences, I always wish they would take more inspiration from the music styles of the places where the movies are set as well, but it's true Disney "I Want" songs usually just sound generic Broadway or pop. Hopefully, other songs in the movie are more culturally accurate, like Mooky said.

I would rather either You’re a Star or the villain song of the movie sung by Chris Pine as King Magnifico for the song of Wish to be submitted for the Oscars.

Wish co-director Fawn Verasunthorn’s daughter gave her “approval” of the new trailer: https://instagram.com/stories/fawnv/319 ... BiNWFlZA==.

Looks like it’s about to arrive any day now.

D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:14 am Wish co-director Fawn Verasunthorn’s daughter gave her “approval” of the new trailer: https://instagram.com/stories/fawnv/319 ... BiNWFlZA==.

Looks like it’s about to arrive any day now.

This Friday I hope. According to Cryptic, the trailer has been ready since September 6th and he has seen some part of the new trailer so I don't think we have to wait till the last the week of September like with Frozen.

Maybe tomorrow? Trailers are usually released before fridays, so tomorrow or it has to be next week

Also Aquaman 2 trailer comes out tomorrow and many times we get big trailers from different studios the same day (as competition on purpose to damage that studio)

So maybe tomorrow at the usual time

I hope so

And yes I want songs are most of the time pop songs but I expected the song to have a little bit (at least) of influences from the Al Andalus

After listening to the song, I will say that I actually quite like it. I feel that it is better than "When Will My Life Begin?" and "Waiting on a Miracle" that's for sure; and equally on par with "How Far I Will Go". Not the best Disney "I Want" song in history, but still a very good/solid song on its own regardless. Ariana's vocals, Dave Metzger's orchestrations and some neat lyrical rhyming here and there do most of the heavy lifting.

We already knew the song was dull and generic when it was first performed by Ariana at the D23 Expo 2022. This shouldn't come as a surprise. It's certainly a shame the last few 'I Want' songs from WDAS features have been so dull and forgettable. Personally, I have no problem with Broadway-styled ballads as long as they are melodic and memorable.

I wonder how good the villain song will be. I'm not sure how good of a singer Chris Pine is but he must be good enough for Disney to hire him.

I don't know about you guys but I kind of want an 'I want' song like Somewhere over the Rainbow sung by Judy Garland. Like a sad, quiet song where the main character wants to escape her home life or in Asha's case, wish for better life for her family and people. Not all song needs to be loud and catchy to be impactful, I understand those songs are really popular but I just wish that Disney have more variety in their songs instead of singing in the same style every time.

I know I literally like everything, but I think it's really pretty. I like the melody and the lyrics aren't the most profound but they're not bad.

Am I only who think the d23 version is better? Maybe my ears aren't used to the new version yet.

D82 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:31 am Thanks for posting, MoonMarc21!

Glad that I can help D82! While I agree that the song is a bit weak for an "I Want" song, it does have some things that I like. I love the instrumental for this song since it has an optimistic, uplifting, and whimsical medieval vibe to it, great fit for the 100th anniversary movie, the lyrics are simple but the rhyming scheme for it is good, and I like Ariana's voice in this but there are some parts in the song where it feels off like when she stresses on some of the words. I think what would make the song memorable to Disney fans is it's visuals in the movie since I feel like on it's own, it may be unremarkable and sound like another typical Broadway song which they would not be expecting. However, that doesn't make me dislike it, it's a fine song with the instrumental being my favorite part.

I remember someone in a youtube comment section saying this song is too wordy. I agree with them because I feel like singer is running out of breath and speed running through the lyrics. Though I am sure it's just me, I'm not a musical expert and I can be tone deaf sometimes. Correct me if I'm wrong