That's the merch symbol, right? I don't think we've seen the in-movie one yet. Since all the other ones have been changed to varying degress, Raya's clan symbol must have been modified too.D82 wrote:Raya's clan symbol is the one with the dragon and the gem (the one below). I guess the gem maybe symbolizes the heart of a dragon.
Oh, I thought you were referring to the symbol in general. Yes, we haven't seen the movie version yet. You're right that it could've changed.Sotiris wrote:That's the merch symbol, right? I don't think we've seen the in-movie one yet. Since all the other ones have been changed to varying degress, Raya's clan symbol must have been modified too.
so each clans symbol is a...body part? um ok... would have preferred the symbols represented animals...D82 wrote:Thanks to the name of the clans revealed in the new EW article (the land of Heart, Talon, Fang, Spine, and Tail), I guess we can finally know what their symbols represent. The land of Heart was revealed long ago as the name of Raya's clan and the green one is confirmed to be Spine in the article, so that's probably what its symbol is. The pink one is clearly from Talon, and I suppose Fang is the white one and Tail the yellow one. They must be named after the different parts of a dragon's body. I guess it's a metaphor for the need of the five clans to be united to form a full body in order to be able to defeat the invaders.
Judging by other images of her, I think it is. She looks a bit too photorealistic for my taste in that still, but I like the little buns she has. I wonder how she can "run a little con game in town" at such a young age.Sotiris wrote:The baby looks weird too. Is her head supposed to be square-shaped?
Yes, the characters look more photorealistic than usual.farerb wrote:It reminds me the realistic design that Dreamworks tried to do with How to Train Your Dragon.
A better question is where are her parents or guardians? Why is such a young child allowed to run around the city with a bunch of animals (and commit crimes, apparently)?D82 wrote:I wonder how she can "run a little con game in town" at such a young age.
Her name's Noi and I agree with you; that shot gives off uncanny valley vibes.unprincess wrote:That pic with Raya and the toddler (what's her name anyway?) looks way too uncanny valley. I hope it's just a weird shot.
I thought she could be an orphan, but maybe I'm wrong. Boun strikes me as an orphan too.Sotiris wrote:A better question is where are her parents or guardians? Why is such a young child allowed to run around the city with a bunch of animals (and commit crimes, apparently)?
I also got that impression. But maybe it's just that shot as you say, unprincess. Perhaps it's the lighting, for example.Sotiris wrote:Her name's Noi and I agree with you; that shot gives off uncanny valley vibes.unprincess wrote:That pic with Raya and the toddler (what's her name anyway?) looks way too uncanny valley. I hope it's just a weird shot.
She probably will be, but it's not very believable. Someone would have noticed a toddler running around in the city unaccompanied by an adult and they would have done something. Her being a con artist is also not believable because of her age. Boun or someone the age of young Raya being an orphan and stealing or swindling people in the streets to survive I can understand.D82 wrote:I thought she could be an orphan, but maybe I'm wrong. Boun strikes me as an orphan too.
I guess the Ongis probably take care of her, but you're right; it's not too believable she can run around in the city without an adult by her side. I'm curious to see how it'll be explained in the movie. I also wonder whether she'll talk or not. Another thing I'm curious about is to know how Raya will end up teaming up with these misfits when she's been described as a lonely warrior. Well, now that we know Boun has a boat, I guess she'll probably need his help to get somewhere by boat. But it'll be interesting to see how she meets the others.Sotiris wrote:She probably will be, but it's not very believable. Someone would have noticed a toddler running around in the city unaccompanied by an adult and they would have done something. Her being a con artist is also not believable because of her age. Boun or someone the age of young Raya being an orphan and stealing or swindling people in the streets to survive I can understand.
Oh gee I wonder where they got that idea from.By the way, one thing I liked about this latest EW article is that it seems each clan will be inspired by a different part of Southeast Asia, so even though it's still a mish-mash of cultures, at least people from different parts of the region will be able to identify with one group more than with the others.
He was my favorite from that show. I have his dog form Funko pop. One of my first anime crushes. Good Times.Disney's Divinity wrote: That picture of him holding the baby makes me think of Sesshomaru and Rin from Inuyasha--she breaks through his cold heart.
Are you referring to Avatar: The Last Airbender? I haven't seen that show or the movie, but I've just read a summary on Wikipedia and it reminded me a lot of Frozen 2. Maybe it's not the first time Disney has taken inspiration from that TV series.unprincess wrote:Oh gee I wonder where they got that idea from.
I hadn't thought about that. You could be right. Raya is at least fatherless as you say, Sisu must be as well since she's the last dragon, and the old man could be too. Even if he didn't grow up without parents, they are probably dead now. I'm not sure about Namaari, though. But maybe her mother also died in the Druun attack; then she would be the leader of her clan now. Either way, I think Namaari will have some backstory which is what causes her to oppose Raya.Disney's Divinity wrote:I have a feeling they'll all be orphans, including Raya and Sisu as well (do we know if Raya's mother is still alive?), and they'll operate as sort of a "found family" by the end of the film. And that includes the older man, too. He seems like an orphan who survived life alone and will probably be resistant to getting along with the others at first before becoming a father figure to them by the end.
If I had to bet, that's what I think will be the case. I expect Namaari to have a lot of parallels to Raya--perhaps both lost their parents in the Druun attack and became leaders--but ultimately they diverged in two opposite directions over how to deal with the situation. Of course I expect Namaari to eventually "stand down" at the end with whatever her plans are, otherwise she wouldn't be a friend of Raya that they would include in the merchandise.D82 wrote: I hadn't thought about that. You could be right. Raya is at least fatherless as you say, Sisu must be as well since she's the last dragon, and the old man could be too. Even if he didn't grow up without parents, they are probably dead now. I'm not sure about Namaari, though. But maybe her mother also died in the Druun attack; then she would be the leader of her clan now. Either way, I think Namaari will have some backstory which is what causes her to oppose Raya.
It was hard to listen to the music. The sound was too low. But I liked the cue. And the sound of the sword was cool, as well.
Thanks for posting. I wonder if the earliest storyline was akin to what originally was Dragon Empire.I've also found the latest issue of Total Film magazine online. Here's what it says about Raya in their 2021 preview:
Thanks for posting. Though I`ve never liked the covers of the "Art books" of the Revival films, at least this cover has a handdrawn feel to it.farerb wrote:The cover of the art book:
I know, right?Disney's Divinity wrote:Her tail almost looks like Ariel's.
Me too. I thought they would release it this week, but it seems we'll have to wait a little longer.farerb wrote:I'm surprised the trailer hasn't been released yet, the film is out in less than two months. Hopefully next week.
All that sounds quite likely to me.Disney's Divinity wrote:If I had to bet, that's what I think will be the case. I expect Namaari to have a lot of parallels to Raya--perhaps both lost their parents in the Druun attack and became leaders--but ultimately they diverged in two opposite directions over how to deal with the situation. Of course I expect Namaari to eventually "stand down" at the end with whatever her plans are, otherwise she wouldn't be a friend of Raya that they would include in the merchandise.
That's true, the sound wasn't very good. I hope someone shares a better recording. I also like the little we can hear, though. By the way, these are the sounds the Ongis make. Judging by them, I guess they won't be talking animals.DisneyFan09 wrote:It was hard to listen to the music. The sound was too low. But I liked the cue. And the sound of the sword was cool, as well.
It probably was.DisneyFan09 wrote:I wonder if the earliest storyline was akin to what originally was Dragon Empire.
You're right, I like that too. And is Sisu grey there?DisneyFan09 wrote:Though I`ve never liked the covers of the "Art books" of the Revival films, at least this cover has a handdrawn feel to it.
The Little Golden Book looks really bad. It's too stylized and makes the characters, Sisu in particular, look too angular. My favorite of the three is the middle one. It has a nice color scheme and composition and the characters look most on-model.D82 wrote:New book covers.
I have a feeling she won't be talking, at least not intelligibly, and the Ongis will be speaking on her behalf.D82 wrote:I guess the Ongis probably take care of her, but you're right; it's not too believable she can run around in the city without an adult by her side. I'm curious to see how it'll be explained in the movie. I also wonder whether she'll talk or not.
I'm guessing it's because she'll need something from them. As you said, Boun will be for transportation, Noi for stealing stuff, and Tong for lifting heavy things or being her muscle in general.D82 wrote:Another thing I'm curious about is to know how Raya will end up teaming up with these misfits when she's been described as a lonely warrior. Well, now that we know Boun has a boat, I guess she'll probably need his help to get somewhere by boat. But it'll be interesting to see how she meets the others.
I believe that will be the case too.Disney's Divinity wrote:I have a feeling they'll all be orphans, including Raya and Sisu as well (do we know if Raya's mother is still alive?), and they'll operate as sort of a "found family" by the end of the film.
That part reminded me of Avatar: The Last Airbender as well. It's odd there are so many similarities between the two properties, but the crew on Raya deny drawing on Avatar/Korra for inspiration. They claim that any similarity is due to the fact that both properties are based on the same region and the culture.unprincess wrote:Oh gee I wonder where they got that idea from.
I like the "Flower Pond Theme"; it has an ethereal quality to it. Does this mean the film had already finished scoring when the product was manufactured or is this just temp music?
Namaari's mom probably gets killed along with Raya's dad during the Druun attack. Maybe Namaari will blame Raya or her dad for what happened. He was the leader of all the clans after all and perhaps an action or inaction of his caused the Druun attack. Maybe she'll blame him for not being a competent leader; for not foreseeing or preparing for the impeding invasion and being unable to protect his people. Maybe it's his fault the dragon gem got lost/broken into pieces.D82 wrote:I'm not sure about Namaari, though. But maybe her mother also died in the Druun attack; then she would be the leader of her clan now. Either way, I think Namaari will have some backstory which is what causes her to oppose Raya.
The Ongis probably raised her or at least spent a large amount of time with her and that's why she's mimicking their walk. I hope Noi get reunited with her biological family or gets adopted by a human couple at the end. A toddler shouldn't be left roaming around with a bunch of animals and stealing to survive. Maybe Tong will adopt her since we see him holding her and being on his shoulders in a lot of merch.D82 wrote:By the way, I've noticed that Noi (the toddler) seems to walk like the Ongis on that last book cover I posted. I wonder if she was abandoned or lost her parents as a baby and the Ongis have raised her. She doesn't look like a feral child, but the Ongis seem more civilized than normal animals, so maybe they provide her with clothes, clean her, etc.
The cover was illustrated by Mingjue Helen Chen who is the production designer on the film.farerb wrote:The cover of the art book.
I think so too. Namaari will undoubtedly end up seeing Raya's point of view. She will be convinced by her plan at the end and join her crew.Disney's Divinity wrote:I expect Namaari to have a lot of parallels to Raya--perhaps both lost their parents in the Druun attack and became leaders--but ultimately they diverged in two opposite directions over how to deal with the situation. Of course I expect Namaari to eventually "stand down" at the end with whatever her plans are, otherwise she wouldn't be a friend of Raya that they would include in the merchandise.
Maybe they will talk in addition to making animal sounds. While I prefer them not talking, how will they communicate with Raya and translate for Noi? Just through pantomime?D82 wrote:By the way, these are the sounds the Ongis make. Judging by them, I guess they won't be talking animals.
I think it's the lighting that makes her look grey-ish.D82 wrote:And is Sisu grey there?
Isn't Benja short for Benjamin? That doesn't sound very Southeast Asian. I like his character design and outfit. I think this establishes Raya's clan as the blue one, even though their clothing has some turquoise and emerald in there too. It's too bad we won't be seeing her mom at all. We knew she wasn't going to play a role in the film the way her dad does, but I had hoped they would have at least showed her at the very beginning when Raya was a baby or a toddler.D82 wrote:Thanks to a new doll set we now know Raya's father is called Chief Benja and we can get an idea of what he'll look like in the film. I guess it's quite clear now Raya's mother won't be alive, otherwise I think there would be merchandise of her too.
I like that Namaari has a cape. That's another thing in common she has with Raya.Chief Benja is also included in a new figurine set, which also gives as a look at Namaari in a different outfit.
I like the design of Raya's palace and the fact it has secret rooms and revolving walls. It gives it a bit of a gothic vibe.D82 wrote:Three Lego sets have also been revealed this week. The first one is called "Raya and the Heart Palace". The palace has "a revolving wall with a secret room, a large treasure chest and opening central and side towers". We can also see a throne, a map of Kumandra and the dragon gem in it. The second set ("Raya and Sisu Dragon") can be combined with the previous one and includes a palace gate, which "has a secret room to hold a small box with a diamond and a waterfall that opens up".
I was thinking that, too.Sotiris wrote:Maybe Tong will adopt her since we see him holding her and being on his shoulders in a lot of merch.
That's my favorite too. I agree about the colors and the composition and I think it's where I liked Sisu in her new design the most so far.Sotiris wrote:My favorite of the three is the middle one. It has a nice color scheme and composition and the characters look most on-model.
I think you're right. After all, that's the most typical way of making characters reluctantly form a team at first, especially in current WDAS and Pixar films.Sotiris wrote:I'm guessing it's because she'll need something from them. As you said, Boun will be for transportation, Noi for stealing stuff, and Tong for lifting heavy things or being her muscle in general.
Sotiris wrote:I like the "Flower Pond Theme"; it has an ethereal quality to it. Does this mean the film had already finished scoring when the product was manufactured or is this just temp music?
Yes, it's very likely Namaari blames Raya or her father for something. Besides, there must be something that caused the clans to be divided.Sotiris wrote:Namaari's mom probably gets killed along with Raya's dad during the Druun attack. Maybe Namaari will blame Raya or her dad for what happened. He was the leader of all the clans after all and perhaps an action or inaction of his caused the Druun attack. Maybe she'll blame him for not being a competent leader; for not foreseeing or preparing for the impeding invasion and being unable to protect his people. Maybe it's his fault the dragon gem got lost/broken into pieces.
I hadn't thought about that, but now that you've mentioned it, it's true that both are shown together in a lot of merch, so I think you're probably right he adopts her at the end.Sotiris wrote:The Ongis probably raised her or at least spent a large amount of time with her and that's why she's mimicking their walk. I hope Noi get reunited with her biological family or gets adopted by a human couple at the end. A toddler shouldn't be left roaming around with a bunch of animals and stealing to survive. Maybe Tong will adopt her since we see him holding her and being on his shoulders in a lot of merch.
Sotiris wrote:I have a feeling she won't be talking, at least not intelligibly, and the Ongis will be speaking on her behalf.
That's a good point. It's true it'll be difficult for Raya to communicate with Noi and the Ongis if neither of them talk. It would be strange though that the plushies only made animal sounds if they talked in the movie, especially when they're called "Chattering Ongis".Sotiris wrote:Maybe they will talk in addition to making animal sounds. While I prefer them not talking, how will they communicate with Raya and translate for Noi? Just through pantomime?
Maybe you're right.Sotiris wrote:I think it's the lighting that makes her look grey-ish.
It didn't occur to me his name sounded like Benjamin, but I guess it's just a coincidence. Probably Benja as a full name also exists in the region where the film is set in. And yes, now that we can see the full outfits, they have more blue in them that it seemed, so the color of their clan must be blue after all. Plus, blue is the color usually associated with water and it seems a drop of water is one of the clan's symbols. Regarding Raya's mother, I think it's still possible she appears in some short flashback, but we'll see.Sotiris wrote:Isn't Benja short for Benjamin? That doesn't sound very Southeast Asian. I like his character design and outfit. I think this establishes Raya's clan as the blue one, even though their clothing has some turquoise and emerald in there too. It's too bad we won't be seeing her mom at all. We knew she wasn't going to play a role in the film the way her dad does, but I had hoped they would have at least showed her at the very beginning when Raya was a baby or a toddler.
Yeah, that's cool. I wonder if there'll be secret rooms in the film itself or not. Maybe they're used to protect the dragon gem or other important items.Sotiris wrote:I like the design of Raya's palace and the fact it has secret rooms and revolving walls. It gives it a bit of a gothic vibe.
