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Can you imagine how much nicer that cover would be if they didn't try and slap both titles on there? Wouldn't a simple "Atlantis" have done, since it already says 2 movie collection?

Do you know whether Aladdin 2 and 3 were produced in 16:9 or in 4:3?
German Disney Channel and Disney Cinemagic broadcasts both in 16:9 but the last DVDs had Aladdin 2 in 4:3 and part 3 also in 16:9.
However BOTH titles looked on tv as they were made in 4:3 or at least that they were cut.
Do you guys have any information on this topic?

It's a safe bet that Aladdin 2 and 3 were made in full creen. It should be noted that The King Of Thieves was matted to 1.85:1 when it was released on DVD.

I'm guessing though if Disney does plan to release them in widescreen for Blu-ray, they should matte them to 1.66:1.

Jäger-Rose wrote:Do you know whether Aladdin 2 and 3 were produced in 16:9 or in 4:3?
German Disney Channel and Disney Cinemagic broadcasts both in 16:9 but the last DVDs had Aladdin 2 in 4:3 and part 3 also in 16:9.
However BOTH titles looked on tv as they were made in 4:3 or at least that they were cut.
Do you guys have any information on this topic?

They were composed for 4:3 (the shot composition proves that). Anything else is an butchery of the original.

Lnds500 wrote:

Jäger-Rose wrote:Do you know whether Aladdin 2 and 3 were produced in 16:9 or in 4:3?
German Disney Channel and Disney Cinemagic broadcasts both in 16:9 but the last DVDs had Aladdin 2 in 4:3 and part 3 also in 16:9.
However BOTH titles looked on tv as they were made in 4:3 or at least that they were cut.
Do you guys have any information on this topic?

They were composed for 4:3 (the shot composition proves that). Anything else is an butchery of the original.

not as if precious animation was lostI'd like to see them reanimate these two movies in the same style as TLK sequels, sadly.. That'll never hapen

REINIER wrote:

Lnds500 wrote: They were composed for 4:3 (the shot composition proves that). Anything else is an butchery of the original.

not as if precious animation was lostI'd like to see them reanimate these two movies in the same style as TLK sequels, sadly.. That'll never hapen

It's animation, it's picture gone missing, it's bad no matter how you see it. I expected someone to give the "animation quality" answer, well, tell that to the people who worked on these movies and did the best they could with the budget they had etc.
IMO, it's a bit shallow to judge movies like this be it in animation or any other movie.

Lnds500 wrote:

REINIER wrote: not as if precious animation was lostI'd like to see them reanimate these two movies in the same style as TLK sequels, sadly.. That'll never hapen

It's animation, it's picture gone missing, it's bad no matter how you see it. I expected someone to give the "animation quality" answer, well, tell that to the people who worked on these movies and did the best they could with the budget they had etc.
IMO, it's a bit shallow to judge movies like this be it in animation or any other movie.

I stand corrected, indeed it's a bit harsh of me to say, but I think we can both agree that the animation could have been better had more money and thought been put into it I am aware of the painstaking labour that goes into the making of a 2-d animated picture having studied and practicioned the craft many years! It's a shame that misframing causes such accidental loss of picture as you were good enough to point out

Does anyone think that Disney might eventually place The Princess and the Frog and Tangled in the Vault?

Both Tiana and Rapunzel have become popular characters within the Princess franchise and I wouldn't be surprised myself if they "retired" Frog in a year or two and then Tangled the following year possibly...

miklc wrote:Does anyone think that Disney might eventually place The Princess and the Frog and Tangled in the Vault?

Both Tiana and Rapunzel have become popular characters within the Princess franchise and I wouldn't be surprised myself if they "retired" Frog in a year or two and then Tangled the following year possibly...

I think they should. Keep them in the vault for a good 8 years. See how their popularity is by then. Winnie the Pooh should also go in the vault.

PatrickvD wrote:

miklc wrote:Does anyone think that Disney might eventually place The Princess and the Frog and Tangled in the Vault?

Both Tiana and Rapunzel have become popular characters within the Princess franchise and I wouldn't be surprised myself if they "retired" Frog in a year or two and then Tangled the following year possibly...

I think they should. Keep them in the vault for a good 8 years. See how their popularity is by then. Winnie the Pooh should also go in the vault.

You know I honestly don't understand why they don't ever properly place Pocahontas and Mulan within the Vault for a least a substantial amount of time, I know they went OOP for like a year or so but that was just in anticipation for another release. Obviously over time this would build a demand for these two films and then when the demand was good enough they could give them both substantially marketed releases.

I'm sure having being off shelves for quite some time they would sell a good amount of copies and it would enable them to increase the marketability of the two principal characters within the Princess franchise, I am sick of seeing them sidelined "because they're not popular" and blatantly only there to add a little diversity to the line. They could really emphasise (and cash in) on their unique character traits, I'm pretty sure they could sell a lot of merchandise which is generally their main concern

I'm thinking once Frog and Tangled have been around long enough for their characters notably Tiana and Rapunzel to become iconic enough to easily be recognised by the general public in the same way Ariel, Belle and co are they may become part of the Vault system

I was just thinking about it yesterday... They *would* let us know before putting them in the vault, right?

rodis wrote:I was just thinking about it yesterday... They *would* let us know before putting them in the vault, right?

I think so it's generally just lower key releases that are only going to be OOP for a year or two that slip quietly into the Vault, with bigger releases they like to make it know that they'll be "Disappearing Soon" in order to urge people to buy sooner rather than latter resulting in more sales for them. Regardless of what people say I do think the Vault system is a clever marketing ploy I don't understand why they don't apply it more of their catalogue though...you never know before long they be locking away PIXAR films and the Tinker Bell movies, I'm sure everyone would love that

miklc wrote:Regardless of what people say I do think the Vault system is a clever marketing ploy I don't understand why they don't apply it more of their catalogue though...you never know before long they be locking away PIXAR films and the Tinker Bell movies, I'm sure everyone would love that

But as wildly successful as they (Pixar films) are, do you really think they have the appeal of the Disney classics? That if they kept them in the vault for 8 years and re-released them, they would sell heaps of copies all over again like the classics? I'm not sure.

I must agree on that, although sale results would indicate differently I imagine. Then again, I feel like I've seen Monsters Inc (2002?) like yesterday and seeing the luke warm response it is now given I imagine I am not alone on this when stating pixar is far from classic, then again.. I could easily forget Home on the Range as "classic" and see it as a DTDVD feature

rodis wrote:

miklc wrote:Regardless of what people say I do think the Vault system is a clever marketing ploy I don't understand why they don't apply it more of their catalogue though...you never know before long they be locking away PIXAR films and the Tinker Bell movies, I'm sure everyone would love that

But as wildly successful as they (Pixar films) are, do you really think they have the appeal of the Disney classics? That if they kept them in the vault for 8 years and re-released them, they would sell heaps of copies all over again like the classics? I'm not sure.

Hmm that's a good point I didn't think of it like that, I think the Toy Story trilogy i.e. Pixar's Holy Grail and at least Nemo and maybe the Cars films (purely due to the fact they seem to be popular amongst young children) would but I'm not sure about the others. Pixar's films are pretty celebrated in their own right but I understand what you mean in terms of the WDAS features, it will be interesting to see how popular a movie like UP (which I personally think is a phenomenal film) will be in ten years from now.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but am I to understand you guys LIKE the Disney vault? I can understand why Disney stock holders like it, but past that, I don't get it. It is the most ridicules thing ever in the home entertainment industry, and it generates a really cut throat second-hand market.

Disney should release their films and leave them out until maybe a year or less before they re-release them like everyone else. Down with the "Disney Vault!"

milojthatch wrote:Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but am I to understand you guys LIKE the Disney vault?

Yes! I for one love the idea of the vault. It makes each new release an event, as I feel Disney releases ought to be. I think it's a big part of the reason why the films have remained so beloved. I hope they're able to find a way to translate it into the digital future of home media.

SWillie! wrote:

milojthatch wrote:Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but am I to understand you guys LIKE the Disney vault?

Yes! I for one love the idea of the vault. It makes each new release an event, as I feel Disney releases ought to be. I think it's a big part of the reason why the films have remained so beloved. I hope they're able to find a way to translate it into the digital future of home media.

Don't you think it's rather anti-consumer?

qindarka wrote:

SWillie! wrote: Yes! I for one love the idea of the vault. It makes each new release an event, as I feel Disney releases ought to be. I think it's a big part of the reason why the films have remained so beloved. I hope they're able to find a way to translate it into the digital future of home media.

Don't you think it's rather anti-consumer?

It could certainly be looked at that way, yes. But it could also be looked at as a way to give the consumer a better quality experience. Like I said, when a vaulted Disney film is released, I look forward to it. I count down the days to release, enjoy the excitement of making the purchase and bringing it home, and watch it usually for the first time in a number of years. If the movie was available at all times whenever I decided I wanted to go get it, there would be no incentive to do so. I would care less about it. It would put these films on the same level as all the other crap that I can go find in the $5 bins. I can't wait to one day have kids and be able to count down the days until Pinocchio or Cinderella are released and then watch it with them for the first time. The vault adds a level of excitement and enjoyability that wouldn't happen if those films were readily available at all times.

Ladies and gentlemen,

big surprises:

June 11 - Lilo & Stitch (2-movie collection)
June 11 - The Emperor's New Groove (2-movie collection)
August 13 - Oliver & Company
September 3 - The Jungle Book
September 10 - The Jungle Book 2
September 17 - The Sword in the Stone
September 17 - Robin Hood
October 1 - Hercules
October 8 - The Little Mermaid
October 22 - The Little Mermaid 2
October 29 - The Little Mermaid 3

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