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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:51 pm
by TsWade2
Prince Edward wrote:TsWade2 wrote:Well, I gues that's true. I just hope Frozen is a musical like Tangled. Hopefully Alan Menken stills involve. And hopefully Alan Menken gets a Tony this year.
I'm not happy either that Disney have stopped doing traditional animation/2D. They can do both CGI and traditional if you ask me (although I would have prefered Disney to make only 2D and Pixar to make CGI), but seeing Disney deserting traditional animation is sad. Traditional animation started it all for Disney, and it is an artform Disney should have a special responsibility to preserve and develop for the future.
I'm with you all the way regarding Alan Menken and "Frozen" being a musical, but let's hope he'll get Oscar-nominated and not Tony-nominated, Tony's are being rewarded to stage musicals on Broadway;) Not that it would hurt to see Menken get a Tony eventually...
Well, that's because his new two new Broadway musicals Newsie and Leap of Faith will open to broadway this season.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:10 pm
by DisneyJedi
You don't mean they've stopped doing hand-drawn animation altogether,
Prince Edward, do you??
If Roy Disney didn't have stomach cancer, he'd be putting his all into keeping hand-drawn alive there. But because he's now dead and has been for a little over two years, it seems all he's been fighting for has gone to waste.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:12 pm
by Prince Edward
TsWade2 wrote:Prince Edward wrote:
I'm not happy either that Disney have stopped doing traditional animation/2D. They can do both CGI and traditional if you ask me (although I would have prefered Disney to make only 2D and Pixar to make CGI), but seeing Disney deserting traditional animation is sad. Traditional animation started it all for Disney, and it is an artform Disney should have a special responsibility to preserve and develop for the future.
I'm with you all the way regarding Alan Menken and "Frozen" being a musical, but let's hope he'll get Oscar-nominated and not Tony-nominated, Tony's are being rewarded to stage musicals on Broadway;) Not that it would hurt to see Menken get a Tony eventually...
Well, that's because his new two new Broadway musicals Newsie and Leap of Faith will open to broadway this season.
Ah, my bad. Really sorry, I thought it was in reference to "Frozen" and did not think about the upcoming Broadway musicals. My bad!
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:12 pm
by jazzflower92
DisneyJedi wrote:You don't mean they've stopped doing hand-drawn animation altogether,
Prince Edward, do you??
Do you need a hug or words of comfort?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:14 pm
by Super Aurora
DisneyJedi wrote:You don't mean they've stopped doing hand-drawn animation altogether,
Prince Edward, do you??
The execs will stop 2D animation all together. Just to spite you. And they will laugh at you cry and rage in despair all while they're smoking big cigars and licking their delicious green money.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:15 pm
by Prince Edward
DisneyJedi wrote:You don't mean they've stopped doing hand-drawn animation altogether,
Prince Edward, do you??
To me it seems like they have abandoned it almost entirely, but I do not know anything for sure. Just my impression of Disney the last years. When The Princess and the Frog came along it was all like "We at Disney loves traditionally animated films and we will continue to make them, they are a vital part of our image and history, blablabla", a few years later they seem to have forgotten all about it. But even if they stop making 2D now, we might always get a new release sometime in the future. Disney once said Home on the Range was to be their last 2D film, and we all know what have happened since then. I guess the coming years will show...
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:16 pm
by DisneyJedi
jazzflower92 wrote:DisneyJedi wrote:You don't mean they've stopped doing hand-drawn animation altogether,
Prince Edward, do you??
Do you need a hug or words of comfort?
I just want to know officially if hand-drawn still has a future at Disney and I mean full-fledged hand-drawn. Not just elements of it.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:38 pm
by DisneyAnimation88
DisneyJedi wrote:I just want to know officially if hand-drawn still has a future at Disney and I mean full-fledged hand-drawn. Not just elements of it.
Well no one on this forum can answer that question for you with any degree of certainty unless they actually work at WDAS or can see into the future. Why not have some patience and try to enjoy the films that are actually being produced and released by WDAS right now rather than worry and stress over something you can't control? We've all seen in the past how quickly things can change at Disney and how unpredictable they can be so unless they say that hand-drawn animation is officially finished at the studio, there's no reason to believe that we won't see it again in the future.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:21 pm
by Disney's Divinity
DisneyAnimation88 wrote: We've all seen in the past how quickly things can change at Disney and how unpredictable they can be so unless they say that hand-drawn animation is officially finished at the studio, there's no reason to believe that we won't see it again in the future.
There's no doubt we'll see it again in future. But that "in future" can be pretty far away. Maybe 10 to 20 years? Who knows. That's not something to look forward to, either way.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:40 pm
by DisneyAnimation88
Disney's Divinity wrote:But that "in future" can be pretty far away. Maybe 10 to 20 years? Who knows.
True, unfortunately it's a waiting game and it might well be a long one. If King of the Elves is still in production then presumably the slate at WDAS is set through 2014. After that, who knows what might happen?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:31 pm
by Goliath
Wait, wait, wait...
Just for clarification...
It's *actually* being called 'Frozen'?! I thought that was just a running gag on UD, poking fun at the whole 'Rapunzel/Tangled'-debacle.
Please tell me you're kidding.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:35 pm
by Super Aurora
Goliath wrote:Wait, wait, wait...
Just for clarification...
It's *actually* being called 'Frozen'?! I thought that was just a running gag on UD, poking fun at the whole 'Rapunzel/Tangled'-debacle.
Please tell me you're kidding.
Nope. That's the title Disney decided to change to. No joke.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:42 pm
by DisneyJedi
Apparently, it's true because the executives believed that Tangled was successful because the title, as opposed to 'Rapunzel', "helped" the movie do better.
And because of Tangled's success, Disney believes that title changes will "help" their movies.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:40 pm
by Goliath
Super Aurora wrote:Nope. That's the title Disney decided to change to. No joke.
Could they have picked anything *more* generic?
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:06 am
by Sotiris
Goliath wrote:It's *actually* being called 'Frozen'?!
You seriously didn't know? We've been bitching about it since December!
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:31 am
by jazzflower92
Sotiris wrote:Goliath wrote:It's *actually* being called 'Frozen'?!
You seriously didn't know? We've been bitching about it since December!
I mean they could have gone with Ice Queen because that sounds like a name Marvel would have thought up for a superheroine.
Incidentally Disney owns Marvel so they can get away with doing that.
But since they are doing an adaption of the Snow Queen maybe they should promote in the Marvel Comics with Iceman from the X-Men.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:29 am
by Super Aurora
jazzflower92 wrote:Sotiris wrote:
You seriously didn't know? We've been bitching about it since December!
I mean they could have gone with Ice Queen because that sounds like a name Marvel would have thought up for a superheroine.
Incidentally Disney owns Marvel so they can get away with doing that.
But since they are doing an adaption of the Snow Queen maybe they should promote in the Marvel Comics with Iceman from the X-Men.
There is a Marvel superheroine name Emma Frost. Not exactly involve ice or snow in her powers but she does turn into diamonds And when she was in the Hellfire Club she was known as "The White Queen"
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:51 pm
by disneyprincess11
Super Aurora wrote:Goliath wrote:Wait, wait, wait...
Just for clarification...
It's *actually* being called 'Frozen'?! I thought that was just a running gag on UD, poking fun at the whole 'Rapunzel/Tangled'-debacle.
Please tell me you're kidding.
Nope. That's the title Disney decided to change to. No joke.
Yeah, the irony XD We always joked, "The next thing they're going to do is that they're going to rename TSQ to Frozen", then it actually haoppened. Creepy o_o
I guess I can accept Frozen. I prefer SQ, but, eh, better than Tangled. -_-
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:51 pm
by Goliath
Sotiris wrote:You seriously didn't know? We've been bitching about it since December!
Haven't checked this thread since... I dunno... page 2. I usually get bored with these kind of threads very quickly because it's nothing but snippets of unsubstantiated rumors. So that's why I haven't checked in since. I thought calling it 'Frozen' was a running gag.
Really, I can't believe it! From the Walt Disney Studio's: Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and... "Frozen"??!
When you call it 'The Snow Queen', the audience knows what they're going to see. Call it 'Frozen', people will go: "huh? WTF?"
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:31 pm
by Sky Syndrome
Goliath wrote:Call it 'Frozen', people will go: "huh? WTF?"
Also quite a few "Is it about the history of the Winter Olympics?"