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Here's an article basically about how we'll all have to see TP&tF more than once at the theater for Disney to make more traditionally-animated films:

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2009/ ... ck-in.html

(The article also has a fan-art of the PE cover for TP&tF.)

The article mentions seeing the movie more than once at the theater, so that the suits will know that people still want to see traditionally-animated films. I'm a bit worried with that comment, though. DVD sales now seem to be more telling of the public's interest in a film, especially with the economy the way it is. Some people would rather just see a film once (or just bypass the theater all together) and spend the $17 or so on a DVD that they can watch many, many times. Hopefully Disney won't pull a Prince Caspian with TP&tF, and say that if the box office amount was low, that people aren't interested in traditionally-animated films, only then to have the DVD be a huge seller. At the theater that I go to, matinee tickets are $6.50, so that's not horrible, but still...if you see a movie twice, that's almost the price of the DVD!

I don't know how far you should read into this. Jim Hill made similar claims concerning Narnia. He insisted the only way to ensure that 'Voyage of the Dawn Treader' would be made at Disney would be strong DVD sales. He told all his readers to buy a copy of the DVD and one for a friend.

Well, Caspian was the tenth best-selling DVD of 2008. And where's Narnia now? Fox.

Disney's going to do what they want to do regardless. Lasseter is a huge proponent for the return of traditionally animated films, so I think that the official death of traditional animation will only happen if Disney flat out loses money off of PatF.

Lasseter went after marketing for the 'failure' of "BOLT". A) I don't think they'll make the same mistake again and B) He's not going to let this return die easily.

But didn't Disney announce that they weren't going to make VotDT very shortly after the PC DVD came out? They didn't even wait and see how well the DVD would sell before announcing their decision, right?

And, Bolt did pretty well at the box office, I think. And, the DVD hasn't even come out yet. That's one of my complaints- especially with the economy, you really shouldn't judge a movie solely by its box office performance- wait and see how the DVD sells, since that seems to be more of an indicator of performance these days.

I'm not sweating. I think there will be more traditional animated films after PatF.

Well, I had already planned to see the movie twice just to hopefully give Disney more incentive anyway.

Anyway, wasn't there already a confirmation for a new, traditionally-animated film in the works? I know the movie was unknown, but I thought somebody'd said there was another one coming sometime after this? Or maybe I'm just losing it?

I read about that too, on the IMDb board for PatF. Basically, in passing, a Disney spokeswoman talked about an upcoming traditionally animated feature and in the context she said it, it seemed to not be referring to PatF. i don't know how much of a 'confirmation' that can be. Also, "King of the Elves"'s medium hasn't been confirmed. But "Rapunzel" is CGI for sure.

Neal wrote:I read about that too, on the IMDb board for PatF. Basically, in passing, a Disney spokeswoman talked about an upcoming traditionally animated feature and in the context she said it, it seemed to not be referring to PatF. i don't know how much of a 'confirmation' that can be. Also, "King of the Elves"'s medium hasn't been confirmed. But "Rapunzel" is CGI for sure.

Off-topic: So Rapunzel IS going to be all CGI, but resemble 2D animation? Okay, I am totally confused right now. T_T

Disney need not worry - I intend to see this at LEAST twice with my whole huge slew of kids. I can't wait for this movie. I'll figure out the expense somehow, even if it means giving my kids movie tickets as one of their Christmas gifts (hey - that's a good idea!).

Edited to say - maybe I'll give my sister a ticket as one of her gifts too! She can come along with us. Hmmmmm......lets all give TPatF tickets as gifts this year!!!

"Rapunzel" is going to be all CGI but in a 'painterly' style to look more like "Beauty and the Beast" than "Wall-E".

"BOLT" was the first film to do this. It was CGI but the backgrounds did it more painterly.

"Rapunzel" is going to kick it up a notch.

Even if another traditionally animated film is in the works...pretty sure they can easily, or quickly, change it to CGI, if they feel they "have" to, unfortunately.

Neal, Glen Keane and them also said that it would look more like 2-D, either flowing and moving as easily as hand-drawn or combining the looks of CGI and hand-drawn...he did a pencil animated test of a ballerina and had them replicate it in CGI.

Also, even though Bolt got finished first, Rapunzel was the first one to come up with the painterly CGI idea.

kbehm29 wrote:lets all give TPatF tickets as gifts this year!!!

That's actually a seriously good idea! The only problem will be not knowing what theater people go to (if they don't live nearby), and what time and date would work for them...if there was a way to buy vouchers for a showing of TP&tF at any theater at any time, then that would be perfect!

Or, even better, have everyone see it together...I could just ask all of my family in Florida if they'd like to come see it, our treat...! I'm excited! Thanks for the idea!

I liked this article. And believe me..... I'll be seeing this movie 3+ times (just like Enchanted ) and each time I'll bring a different group of folks with me!

The Princess and the Frog will be previewed at the Red Stick International Animation Festival in April

http://events.animationblogspot.com/200 ... /#more-148

bluemoon86 wrote:The Princess and the Frog will be previewed at the Red Stick International Animation Festival in April

http://events.animationblogspot.com/200 ... /#more-148

Are you serious?!?!?!

I really wish I lived in New Orleans right now! And JuJu the snake?

I wonder what day it's playing and if tickets/passes will be available. I might be crazy enough to go.

Take me with you!

It would help Red Stick's server wasn't down/ridiculously slow.

I will only see this film twice if it's worth seeing twice. I can't just support Disney animation if I know it's going to be a crappy product. The constant "just like the 90s!" references make me think that this film will really be another bland addition to that formula of Disney animated film making and not terribly good. I will see it at least once and I hope to be proven wrong, but I hope the stress of needing to make money on the animator's part doesn't hinder the quality of the production in it's storytelling and quality of art.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:but I hope the stress of needing to make money on the animator's part doesn't hinder the quality of the production in it's storytelling and quality of art.

are your serious? The animator's don't make money at Disney anymore. And clean-up and inbetween animation is being outsourced to other studios from former Disney animators in Florida.

Lasseter is trying to make this film for less than $80 million. Why you ask? Because if it doesn't turn a prodit, this it it. The end.

It's a miracle Lasseter even got the suits to agree on doing another handdrawn film. Also, he has mentioned time and time again that he felt 2d went under because of bad storytelling not because of the medium. So if he went through all this trouble to get management on his side on making another one, why would he allow it to suck?

you could appreciate the effot, you know. If you'r a Disney fan. but whatever.