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This is so unfair. Ever since Dick Cook was let go, nothing has been going right and to add salt to the wound, Disney's only reviving their projects in CG because Tangled was successful. Seriously, I'm starting to get suspicious!

Sotiris wrote:

qindarka wrote:Could you guys calm down? 2 of the last 3 movies have been hand drawn. And there are currently only two confirmed projects which are in CG

Not quite. After Lasseter took over WDAS we've had:

FEATURES

Released

Meet the Robinsons (CG) (although this doesn't count as it was too far into production when Lasseter came on board.)

Bolt (CG)

The Princess and the Frog (2D)

Tangled (CG)

Winnie the Pooh (2D)

Upcoming (announced by Disney)

Wreck-It Ralph (CG)

Frozen (CG)

King of the Elves (CG)

Upcoming (announced by the directors themselves)

Dean Wellins' Untitled Film (CG)

Greno & Howard's Untitled Film (CG)

Clements & Musker's Untitled Film (CG with 2D elements/2D look)

Upcoming (announced by a reliable insider)

Don Hall's Untitled Film (CG)

SHORTS

Released

How to Hook Up Your Home Theater (2D)

Glago's Guest (CG)

Super Rhino (CG)

Prep & Landing (CG)

Tick Tock Tale (CG)

Prep & Landing: Operation Secret Santa (CG)

The Ballad of Nessie (2D)

Prep & Landing: Naughty vs. Nice (CG)

Tangled Ever After (CG)

Upcoming (announced by the directors themselves)

John Kahrs' Untitled Short (CG)

New 'Prep & Landing' Special (CG)

The score so far is:

Features - CG (10), 2D (2)
Shorts - CG (9), 2D (2)

So what you're saying is that Disney is really no longer doing hand drawn?

Forgive me to be a drama king, but,

IT"S THE END OF THE WORLD!

TsWade2 wrote:So what you're saying is that Disney is really no longer doing hand drawn?

Well, I'm not saying it's impossible or things won't change in the future but as things are right now, it's highly improbable.

The only features which were originally envisioned as hand-drawn have been either CG-fied (Snow Queen, Clements & Musker's film) or shelved (Mickey Mouse feature.)

TsWade2 wrote:

Sotiris wrote: Not quite. After Lasseter took over WDAS we've had:

FEATURES
SHORTS

The score so far is:

Features - CG (10), 2D (2)
Shorts - CG (9), 2D (2)

So what you're saying is that Disney is really no longer doing hand drawn?

Forgive me to be a drama king, but,

IT"S THE END OF THE WORLD!

You are acting like a drama king.

I think your obsession with having things handrawn is going to make you turn psycho and believe me I feel you getting upset over spilled milk.

jazzflower92 wrote:

TsWade2 wrote: So what you're saying is that Disney is really no longer doing hand drawn?

Forgive me to be a drama king, but,

IT"S THE END OF THE WORLD!

You are acting like a drama king.

I think your obsession with having things handrawn is going to make you turn psycho and believe me I feel you getting upset over spilled milk.

I can't help it. I have OCD and it's hard for me to deal with.

jazzflower92 wrote:You are acting like a drama king.

This is an Internet forum where people can come to bitch and nitpick and be melodramatic. As long as there are no personal attacks, I don't see a problem with users expressing themselves in any way they choose.

You have OCD.

Man,thats rough buddy.

On the brightside maybe we can actually get some good quality CGI films under Mr.Lassester's direction.

Sotiris wrote: shelved (Mickey Mouse feature.)

So, if maybe as soon as Mickey Mouse Clubhouse ends it's run, will they do a hand drawn movie of Mickey Mouse by then?

Sotiris wrote:

jazzflower92 wrote:You are acting like a drama king.

This is an Internet forum where people can come to bitch and nitpick and be melodramatic. As long as there are no personal attacks, I don't see a problem with users expressing themselves in any way they choose.

Yeah,you do have point but we also have to be reasonable as well because there are a lot worse things than not getting hand drawn animated movies.

jazzflower92 wrote:We can actually get some good quality CGI films under Mr. Lasseter's direction.

I think we will. Both Frozen, and Ron & John's movie sound very promising.

jazzflower92 wrote:
On the brightside maybe we can actually get some good quality CGI films under Mr.Lassester's direction.

Well, I gues that's true. I just hope Frozen is a musical like Tangled. Hopefully Alan Menken stills involve. And hopefully Alan Menken gets a Tony this year.

But it's not fair! They totally screwed us over when they "promised" more hand-drawn films!

Well, that does it. When I pitch my movie to them- whenever that may be-, I'm going to fight to keep the animated portion (it's going to be 2/3 animated and 1/3 live-action) hand-drawn no matter what!

jazzflower92 wrote: On the brightside maybe we can actually get some good quality CGI films under Mr.Lassester's direction.

But it isn't enough to keep us old school fans at bay. We need a good 2D film every two years and not have the medium forgotten.

DisneyJedi wrote:But it's not fair! They totally screwed us over when they "promised" more hand-drawn films!

Well, that does it. When I pitch my movie to them- whenever that may be-, I'm going to fight to keep the animated portion (it's going to be 2/3 animated and 1/3 live-action) hand-drawn no matter what!

Oh,come on don't be so gloomy and look on the bright side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIM3GHvB ... re=related

You know, I think we're acting like those guys:

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TsWade2 wrote:You know, I think we're acting like those guys

That was funny!

Sotiris wrote:

TsWade2 wrote:You know, I think we're acting like those guys

That was funny!

I know! Isn't that adorable?

Frankly, unless Disney makes an official announcement that will not produce hand-drawn animated films, then I will believe they're not done working in that medium.

After all, back in 2003, most of us didn't know they had finished with hand-drawn animation until the studio officially announced that yes, Home on the Range would be the last one. And then that lasted what? Two-and-a-half years?

Call me naive, but maybe the reason the next two projects are computer-animated, because the director and writer thought CGI would be the best way to visualise the worlds and their characters. I recently wrote a possible feature script for a animated film. By myself, with no studio in mind to produce it or anything. It was just me inspired to write this story, which I thought was a great idea for an animated feature. Guess what I envisioned it as? Computer animation. And I'm somebody who loves hand-drawn animation.

I also think there is an effort to make CGI movies into great stories that are not Cliche Storms or just cheap Shrek knock offs but guenine Disney movies with heart and character put into it.I think Disney espically doesn't want any of there movies to be Shrek knock offs after the fiasco that was Chicken Little.

I actually think that a lot of CGI movies are starting to become more than just pop culture junk food but from 2008 to now I have seen some pretty good CGI movies where its obvious that people have put work into it.When I talk about CGI films I am talking about non-Pixar CGI films.

TsWade2 wrote:

jazzflower92 wrote:
On the brightside maybe we can actually get some good quality CGI films under Mr.Lassester's direction.

Well, I gues that's true. I just hope Frozen is a musical like Tangled. Hopefully Alan Menken stills involve. And hopefully Alan Menken gets a Tony this year.

I'm not happy either that Disney have stopped doing traditional animation/2D. They can do both CGI and traditional if you ask me (although I would have prefered Disney to make only 2D and Pixar to make CGI), but seeing Disney deserting traditional animation is sad. Traditional animation started it all for Disney, and it is an artform Disney should have a special responsibility to preserve and develop for the future.

I'm with you all the way regarding Alan Menken and "Frozen" being a musical, but let's hope he'll get Oscar-nominated and not Tony-nominated, Tony's are being rewarded to stage musicals on Broadway;) Not that it would hurt to see Menken get a Tony eventually...