Want2beBelle wrote:Does anyome know excactly what has been left out from the 2001 release? Thanks
Here's goofystitch's list from page 42, though I've added some blue text to note that some of it is available, but in a different form.:
- Still the Fairest of Them All: The Making of Snow White - (38:52) A documentary that provides a brief overview of the history of the Disney studio up until Snow White before mostly focusing on tales from the production. It is hosted by the lovely Angela Lansbury and was most likely left off the Diamond Edition because most of the information is repeated in the new Hyperion Studios feature.
"Some Day My Prince Will Come" music video by Barbra Streissand - (4:03) Replaced on the Diamond Edition by a music video from Tiffany Thorton.
Textual History - (0:00) The DVD offered three text documents. They were a Walt Disney Biographical Timeline, Snow White Production Timeline, and the Original Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale. Since much of the production timeline and Walt's biography are covered in the Hyperion Studios feature, it is obvious why these were left off the Diamond Edition. And the Original fairy tale was probably left off because it is darker than people like Disney to be.
Storyboard to Film Comparisions - (26:61) Four storyboard/film sequences were presented (The Forest Chase, Cleaning House, The Dwarfs Chase The Witch, and The Queen's Order) with a general introduction. Each sequence was presented three times (storyboard, final film, and split screen comparison). If you watch one of each with the introduction, the feature is 9:01, but if you watch all of them, the total runtime is 26:61. This feature was most likely left off the Diamond Edition to save space and because it would have needed to be redone, since it was originally made in SD and fullscreen.
"The Forest Chase" and "Cleaning House" are available on the Blu-Ray, but they've been remade as "In Walt's Words" featurettes, similar to the feature on the Platinum Edition of Bambi.
Art & Design - (1:43) John Canemaker briefly talks about the design and style of the film. Most likely left off the Diamond Edition because the Hyperion Studios feature repeats the information.
About Layouts and Backgrounds - (4:37) Scott McQueen talks about the importance of the backgrounds. Most likely left off the Diamond Edition because the Hyperion Studios feature repeats the information.
Excerpt from "The Story of Silly Symphony"- (1:36) Briefly talks about Snow White, but was probably left off the Diamond Edition because it has more to do with "The Old Mill," which is included in the Diamond Edition.
Excerpts from "Tricks of Our Trade" - There are two excerpts. The first (7:39) is a detailed explanation of how the multiplane camera works. This was most likely left off the Diamond Edition because it is more concentrated on "The Old Mill" and "Bambi" and only mentions Snow White. The second (4:10) shows how Disney did live action motion study. The scene they study is Happy doing a dance, but the information is most likely repeated in the Hyperion Studios feature, which is most likely why this was left off the Diamond Edition.
Camera and Tests - (12:13) Scott MacQueen hosts this feature about the technical aspects of animation and color tests for them. Most likely left off the Diamond Edition because the information is repeated in the Hyperion Studios feature.
Live Action Reference - (6:34) Highlights of the live action reference footage are paired with an early demo of "You're Never Too Old To Be Young" with a commentary by an uncredited voice (most likely John McQueen). Most likely left off the Diamond Edition because the information is repeated in the Hyperion Studios feature.
Abandoned Concepts - (8:25) Three abandoned concepts are presented (Snow White Meets the Prince, a fantasy version of "Some Day My Prince Will Come," and The Prince is Captured) with a general introduction by John Canemaker. While the Hyperion Studios feature does have an abandoned concepts gallery, the absence of the three sequences from the Diamond Edition is puzzling.
Two of the abandoned concepts ("Snow White Meets the Prince", "The Prince is Captured") are presented in in stills rather than the video version on the DVD (with the stills in a montage set to the film score). The fantasy version of "Some Day My Prince Will Come" is not included.
The Restoration - (5:19) A featurette about the restoration process, but it only pertains to the 2001 restoration, so it's inclusion on the Diamond Edition would have been informative, but semi-pointless.
Deleted Scenes - Out of 5 deleted scenes on the Platinum Edition, only 2 of them are on the Diamond Edition ("Music in Your Soup" and Building a Bed). The Platinum Edition had an introduction by John Canemaker (0:40), The Witch's Cauldron (0:40), The Bedroom Argument (2:19), and The Lodge Meeting (1:53). The two scenes included in the Diamond Edition total 11 minutes and were remastered in HD, but the other three deleted scenes (totaling 4 minutes) should have been included as well. Their absence is puzzling.
"The Lodge Meeting" actually is included, as it's simply been combined with "Building A Bed" as one single scene instead of two separate ones. "The Bedroom Argument" is an extra in one of the sections of Hyperion Studios, thus making "The Witch at the Cauldron" the only deleted scene not carried over.
The Los Angeles Permier - (1:13) A vintage and nostalgic newsreel about the elaborate Hollywood premier. Its short run time and glimpse into the golden age of Hollywood made it an obvious inclusion in the new set, but for some reason it did not make the jump.
Original Premier Radio Broadcast - (29:59) This audio-only feature is again, vintage and nostalgic. Certainly this wouldn't have taken up much room on the disc, but Disney seems to be under the impression that nobody cares about vintage promotional material, which is most likely why this is not on the Diamond Edition.
Trailers - (12:00) Two trailers from 1937 and rerelease trailers from 1944, 1958, 1967, 1987, 1993, and the 2001 DVD release were included in the Platinum Edition. While Disney mostly shies away from putting vintage publicity material on current releases, they did provide them for Sleeping Beauty and all of them (except for maybe the 2001 DVD trailer) would have been a nice inclusion on the Diamond Edition.
The trailers are available within the "Disney Through the Decades" feature. On the 2001 DVD they were available through there as well as on their own.
A Trip Through the Walt Disney Studios - (10:58 ) The original film that basically served as a glorified promotion for Snow White to RKO is presented here with an introduction by Scott McQueen. While the new Hyperion Studios feature probably reuses some of the footage from this film, it would have been nice to have it in full on the Diamond Edition. Sadly, it was probably not included since it was a promotional piece. Walt Disney even uses words like "Selling of the product" in the film.
How Disney Cartoons Are Made - (8:54) Another vintage film, this one was shown to audiences and again, was a glorified promotion for Snow White. This feature also had an introduction by Scott McQueen. While the Hyperion Studios is probably more in depth as to "how Disney cartoons are made," this vintage and nostalgic piece would have been warmly welcome on the new set. Again, since this was promotional material, the seems to be the reason why it was left off the Diamond Edition.
Vintage Audio - (42:60) The vintage audio section of the Platinum Edition consisted of three radio broadcasts (two from the Lux Radio Theater and one promo called "Mickey Mouse Theater of the Air") and two demo recordings. One is from the recording session for "The Silly Song" and the other is the deleted song "You're Never Too Old To Be Young." Since the radio broadcasts are promotional pieces, that is probably the main reason that Disney didn't include them in the Diamond Edition. While the absence of the two songs is semi-confusing, the latter is included on the CD soundtrack that is currently available.
The original "Disney Through the Decades" was introduced by Roy E. Disney and the "2000s" segment was presented by D.B. Sweeney, but in the new Diamond Edition, it's presented by John Ratzenberger (who also replaced Roy for the intro).
Also, the galleries have a different number of stills in them (some added stills in the Diamond Edition, some lost stills). I don't have the Blu-Ray, so I'm not entirely sure if some stills were simply moved to different areas or not. But anyway, based on the numbers provided in the review...
Visual Development - 179 in Platinum, 146 in Diamond
Tenggren Art - 6 in Platinum, 16 in Diamond
Layouts - 18 in Platinum, 115 in Diamond
Backgrounds - 25 in both Platinum and Diamond
Storyboard Art - no gallery in Platinum, 126 in Diamond
Abandoned Concepts - two concepts presented as montage/scenes in Platinum, 63 in Diamond
Animation Art - no gallery in Platinum, 39 in Diamond
Live Action Reference - no gallery in Platinum, 26 in Diamond
Snow White - 52 in Platinum, 36 in Diamond
Queen - 62 in Platinum (30 as Queen, 32 as Peddler), 36 in Diamond
Dwarfs - 131 (37 Misc, 16 Doc, 17 Dopey, 19 Grumpy, 10 Happy, 14 Sleepy, 8 Sneezy, 10 Bashful) in Platinum, 51 in Diamond
Magic Mirror - no gallery in Platinum, 5 in Diamond
Prince - 13 in Platinum, 9 in Diamond
Huntsman - 8 in Platinum, no gallery in Diamond
Animals - 21 in Platinum, no gallery in Diamond
Color Tests - no gallery in Platinum, 12 in Diamond
Painted Cels - no gallery in Platinum, 14 in Diamond
Production Photos - 11 in Platinum (part of "Publicity Scrapbook"), 21 in Diamond
Publicity Gallery - 59 in Platinum (5 Premiere, 26 Pressbook, 17 Merchandise, 11 Posters), 34 in Diamond
albert